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Old 12-30-2008, 12:31 AM - Thread Starter
 
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and if so, how do I get around it? I don't want my baby receiving the "goop", but I have to birth in a hospital, due to a heart valve problem (still have to change my siggy).
There has got to be a way around this! It can't be illegal to refuse a drug, can it? :

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We refused with DD2. We had planned a HB but transfered to the hospital and refused everything, vit k, eye ointment, bath, you name it we refused it. We just had to sign a waiver and no one said a thing. Well one nurse was an a** but that had nothing to do with the eye ointment. She just did not want to touch our "dirty baby" and kept pushing us for the bath. Good thing she never got the chance to hold her as we left a few hours after birth. I would just speak with your doctor/mw and also make sure to inform the staff when you check in to the hosp and make sure your partner informs the staff right after babe is born.

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and if so, how do I get around it? I don't want my baby receiving the "goop", but I have to birth in a hospital, due to a heart valve problem (still have to change my siggy).
There has got to be a way around this! It can't be illegal to refuse a drug, can it? :
I posted a reply to this in the "I'm Pregnant" forum where I came across it...there is a good web reference with info:


http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/washington.htm
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I just gave birth to my baby boy 5 days ago in a Washington hospital and I refused the eye stuff. They just made me sign a waiver and didn't even give me trouble about it.

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Hi there!

here is some information that you and any other WA residents may find useful. Just like pp said, there is no law and as a parent, you may refuse or accept any treatment or medication for your minor child. Sometimes I hear people say that a family could be reported to CPS/DSHS for refusing, but that is not true. And, I assure you, DSHS has WAY TO MUCH on it's plate to be responding to something so trivial as abx eye treatment!

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I waived it with both my girls.

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I waived it with both my girls.
Did the hospital provide a waiver form? Did you have to get it in advance?

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They were born at home, my midwife had the waiver forms.

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Sharon beat me to the link, as always.

I'd say at least 50, probably closer to 75% of my clients refuse the ointment. Some hospitals give the form without a peep, others make it into a bit of drama, but I think it has more to do with the personality of the nurse than anything else.

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From what I was told, it is a law that they have to offer it (er, push it), but it's NOT a law that we have to accept it.
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Usually these laws are written that it must be given UNLESS the parents sign a waver.

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"I'm happy to sign an AMA for you." When they know that you know that you can refuse anything, it helps.

"Do I have to? Isn't there a waiver or something?" isn't coming from a place of knowledge and strength.

AMA (at least here in Washington) stands for Against Medical Advice - the name of the form they have you sign when you refuse their standard protocol or any state rules. Only one of my three kids was born in a hospital, so I've only signed one. I offered to sign quite a few, but they only took me up on the one for Vitamin K shot if I remember correctly.
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great, thanks!

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