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#1 of 18 Old 04-15-2013, 01:47 PM - Thread Starter
 
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If you are in PDX, I would love to connect. I am working (unaffiliated) to preserve Portland's water this May!
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Thank you for working on this! I just moved here in August, and I was so disappointed to see they were thinking about *adding* it. I thought I'd finally moved somewhere sans fluoride, so I didn't have to worry about it so much! Seems so backwards given that there are movements many places to do the much harder task of removing it :( 


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Well unfortunately I have seen the underbelly of local politics through this and it is *dark* and shady!

 

There is a KickOff Countdown party tomorrow night. I will post the link here in a minute. If you could take a minute to tell your local friends, that would be fabulous! I can't go because I am over an hour away . . . 

 

You could get a lawn sign or a sticker there, and sign up to help if you are so inclined!

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Here is a link to the KickOff Party!

https://www.facebook.com/events/599315966746887/

 

And here is a link to the debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP7WaYhUIe0

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Here is a link to the funniest video ever, made by Clean Water Portland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYRgoAxUyo

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Bumping! I love that our water is so pure. Why add nasty chemicals to it? Why mess with everyone's water when I can buy toothpaste with fluoride at the pharmacy if I want to?
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Right? There is a huge parade today in PDX for this. I can post the time if anyone is interested in attending! 

 

It also has come out that the Pro Fluoride side paid 143,000 to Minority Groups they claim to have the support of . . . That was covered in the Willamette Week!

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OMG and a pro-fluoride sponsored ad showed up in my FB news feed. I was so angry! What gets me riled up isn't just the health and environmental questionability (is that a word?), it's the freakin' lack of informed consent. I ABSOLUTELY do not consent to have this medication (yes, it's a medication if you want medical outcomes). Dah!

 

I am not surprised at all that they've try to pay people off to support. I wish I could do more to help right now, but my life is crazy!


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You can vote no! Yes, they paid Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc, etc. They have a TON of money to spend . . . I was able to click a button on FB to let FB know that the ad was offensive to me and not to show it again . . . 

 

A fun thing I sometimes do is do random searches and try to get their ad to come up on Twitter and then screen shot it. I have had it come up when searching for 'cancer' & 'hypothyroid' etc . . . 

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Oh I plan to vote no!

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We voted no here. :) 


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Yay! Thanks! An incriminating memo just came out, I will post the story . . . http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/05/oregon_official_felt_pressure.html

 

It is so interesting because the Oregonian has thus far been totally in the BAG for Fluoridation, I am really surprised that this story made their paper.

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Ballots due tomorrow! Get them in!
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YES Philomom! I am buying my water in my Fluoridated OR community and it costs us 50/month, 600/year and is only a VERY partial Opt Out (I still get it in the bath, whenever I drink water in the community, whenever I eat food in the community, etc).

 

Getting it from the Pharmacy would be 4 dollars, it is generic and if I had Medicaid, they would totally pay. Plus that product is Pharmaceutical Grade Fluoride (Sodium Fluoride) which is not the INDUSTRIAL grade Fluoride planned for PDX water (HydroFluoroSilicAcid). Also PDX schools distribute Fluoride Tablets to any families that want them.

 

Even the ADA says that Formula Feeding mothers need to use SOME if not all low fluoride water to prepare bottles, lest FF babies get 200-400% of the dose of a BF infant. Now I am a extended BF mama but I KNOW that there are race, class, and privilege issues regarding WHO gets to BF in the USA and until we have better maternity leave policies and more Baby Friendly hospitals, we need to make sure that the FREE TAP WATER is safe to prepare bottles with without FF mamas on WIC risking Fluorosis & creating a second tier of visibly damaged teeth. If WIC is buying my Formula, I probably can't afford to buy bottled water (which contains BPA) to prepare it with!

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A friend of ours says he has it on good authority that we will lose micro-breweries if they have to filter out the fluoride for their beer. So sad.

On another note, my 19 year old got a call tonight from the "pro chemicals in the water" folks and they practically hung up on her after hearing her no choice. They didn't even try to convince her. I found that odd but heartening. Maybe we will get this voted down!
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It is supposed to, but you NEVER know.

 

KATU has been a surprising last minute asset, which is so weird because they seem to be associated with the Oregonian on some level . . . 

 

http://www.katu.com/politics/Did-state-employees-help-pro-fluoride-advocates-on-state-time-208242221.html

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Woohoo! We won.joy.gif:joy:joy
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YES! In the end, IMO what did it was a mistake by the Fluoride campaign (giving 'grants' of 20G each to minority groups and then getting caught), as well as some last minute real JOURNALISM (a rare animal in this world today!) by KATU and the Willamette Week. Altho Willamette Week had a conflict of interest and ultimately DID endorse the measure, their coverage was SO much more balanced and accurate than the Oregonian or the Mercury. 

 

KATU really got the 2012 Smile Survey (in which PDX improved greatly w/o Fluoride) released thorough your BFF and mine, the Freedom of Information Act!

 

The other thing that did it was IMO the tremendous HEART and SOUL of the PDX Citizens, they are so creative and plucky!

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