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that IS strange.
i was hoping to catch some this round, i mean the girls to catch them. i already had them. BADLY at 5.

oh, and you look GREAT, but then again, you always do.

oooh Niamh is so totally grunting out a poops. standing up next to me, "unnnngh" is it wierd to think thats cute???

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Tiffany... I don't know about Bishops but Jason at Rudy's cuts mine and knows what he is doing.
thanks Joi, i've never been there,
you have hair like me, non? thick dark, with super wave?
i am in love with miss Christy at DLS, but my budget isnt. i need CHEAP and awesome.

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Alex sings "Goodbye Blue Sky." in the car. It's so cute.

You hear him in the back going Ooohhhooohhhooohhhooohhhh.. Then you hear.. didididididid and byebyebyebye all in appropriate spots.

Although Elizabeth kind of does.. and it fascinates her. I hear her tell her friend when they get in the car.. This song is about the war. hrmmmmmm
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Does anyone know how much it costs to get rid of the ads? I have to make this fast because there is a staples ad at the bottom of the screen that activages a dialog box that keeps telling me I need to restart firefox.
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Thought I'd do a drive by...wave hi! this will be one busy month for us!


Hip hairdo Lee!
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Does anyone know how much it costs to get rid of the ads? I have to make this fast because there is a staples ad at the bottom of the screen that activages a dialog box that keeps telling me I need to restart firefox.
I dunno. I got wined at when I asked DH. Maybe you should google it. I thought firefox automatically blocked the ads. Also could you have spyware? A staples ad shouldn't crash firefox.
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I don't know. It had something to do with shockwave flash, and a plugin performing an illegal operation. I've never seen that before. Now the ad doesn't completely show. It kind of goes away.

I don't know what that's about, but I'm not going to restart firefox every damn time I'm at the bottom of a page.
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thats SO wierd Hedy.
i use firefox on ubuntu and have like NOTHING installed, which makes for lameness when i wanna watch you tube vids. but i never get a restart firefox popup.

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Does anyone know how much it costs to get rid of the ads? I have to make this fast because there is a staples ad at the bottom of the screen that activages a dialog box that keeps telling me I need to restart firefox.
It's really cheap. Like $6 or $20 or something a year. And totally worth it.

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Think Out Loud, at 9am on OPB radio is going to be about unschoolers.

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I have thick crazy curls....... it is curly, wavy, and wild all over

Thanks for the reminder Sara.
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I saw that an hour too late. Damn it! I think I might go to the next convention. This is interesting me more and more.
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I saw that an hour too late. Damn it! I think I might go to the next convention. This is interesting me more and more.
I'm sure you can listen to it anytime. Just go to the site and find the link for today's Think Out Loud.

They had one of the founders of VFS call in.

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Geez, I really hate it when people just make bold claims based on nothing except what they think. Like, saying that unschooling makes kids think the world revolves around them. What is that even based on?

Alright, I'm not letting it ruin my day. : It's great that OPB featured unschooling.
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UG! Amanda is going to be 15 on Friday and is nag nag nagging for a permit.
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Just checked Lily's school's website, and I guess it's not weird that I haven't heard from them yet. Whew.
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Geez, I really hate it when people just make bold claims based on nothing except what they think. Like, saying that unschooling makes kids think the world revolves around them. What is that even based on?
Well, kids are inherently selfish. Didn't you know that? See, that's why you have to have years of training to teach kids, otherwise they walk all over you.












Ok, you do know I'm joking, right?
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I'm sure you can listen to it anytime. Just go to the site and find the link for today's Think Out Loud.

They had one of the founders of VFS call in.
Ooh! Thanks!

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Geez, I really hate it when people just make bold claims based on nothing except what they think. Like, saying that unschooling makes kids think the world revolves around them. What is that even based on?

Alright, I'm not letting it ruin my day. : It's great that OPB featured unschooling.
That's a start, anyway.
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We are headed to the Japanese Garden and then to Washington Park playground after for some afternoon fun. Anyone want to meet there?
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I just get so annoyed when people make assumptions like that, because all the research supports an opposite conclusion. I feel like, if you can present me with some research that you've done, then fine. But if I'm throwing books and articles at you, and you're not reading them, then you don't get to make conclusions just because it's how you feel about what kids should do.

Anyway, I'm going to get myself all worked up. :
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Exactly, Candice, exactly. I hear ya.
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Oh and Hedy, I was thinking about people in my own life who feel the way your dh does. I wasn't trying to badmouth your dh. I just think I can understand how you feel, having personally been there.

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Yeah, I figured. I know a lot of people who feel that way, so I just sort of assume other people do too.
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I just get so annoyed when people make assumptions like that, because all the research supports an opposite conclusion. I feel like, if you can present me with some research that you've done, then fine. But if I'm throwing books and articles at you, and you're not reading them, then you don't get to make conclusions just because it's how you feel about what kids should do.

Anyway, I'm going to get myself all worked up. :
Well, I think a lot of us come to conclusions in our own mind based on our own histories and assumptions and biased information sources, correct or incorrect. I'd have a hard time believing that most of society researches every possible avenue of thought before forming an opinion about something. By making bold claims, people are simply putting language to these internally held opinions; and by putting language to them, they're brought out into the open where they can be discussed and refuted. And even if the person making the bold claim is completely closed minded, and unwilling to entertain another opinion, or research, or factual evidence, their voice may represent the inner thoughts of someone else, who is more willing to entertain contrary evidence. I know that I came into motherhood with a slew of opinions based on nothing but a limited view of the world; if people hadn't been making bold claims around me, I never would have heard the contrary evidence. I might have just carried on with some quiet assumptions that forever went unchallenged. YKWIM?

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Oh, were you referring to Hedy's man? I thought we were still on the radio broadcast. Shit, it's 12 already? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

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Rebellion happened today. It was fun. I went to Bishop's and Mike, gay boyfriend, and myself all got our hair cut! It was awesome. Pictures on blog soon. Bishop's ROCKS!! We went to the one in the Pearl.

Wow, that's awesome, Karen! I know you've wanted to move in that direction for awhile. : :
Hooray for rebellion!

Yeah, I'm just hoping I don't fall back on eating meat every night. I'm finding myself doing that already. Old habits and all of that...

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I was thinking of taking Liam to Oaks park tuesday am for the little kid morning. Anyone else want to go?
Hmm. Tempting, but I'm not sure if Chase would even WANT to get on those rides. He won't even stay in the little kid swings at the park. Although he has been getting into the slide lately.

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That's a start, anyway. I'm trying and... well... somewhat failing with Todd right now on the subject. He thinks that the only way our kids will be successful in the real world is if they fear authority, and for now that means us.
Sounds like Todd needs a dose of Alfie Kohn! His "Unconditional Parenting" really resonated with me. I've heard the DVD is good (very similar to the talk that he did here a few months ago, so if you went to that...). There are also a lot of articles at Alfie's website. Few are actually parenting articles, but you might find the ones about education equally interesting, given your situation.

And here's another article, from the Natural Child website, about how children react to control.

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Yeah, SIL is in Hazmat. She wears a suit and a breather mask for stuff like that.
hey my dh works hazmat too LOL yep, speaking of, i am at work and almost throwing up on my desk/keyboard...
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Well, I think a lot of us come to conclusions in our own mind based on our own histories and assumptions and biased information sources, correct or incorrect. I'd have a hard time believing that most of society researches every possible avenue of thought before forming an opinion about something. By making bold claims, people are simply putting language to these internally held opinions; and by putting language to them, they're brought out into the open where they can be discussed and refuted. And even if the person making the bold claim is completely closed minded, and unwilling to entertain another opinion, or research, or factual evidence, their voice may represent the inner thoughts of someone else, who is more willing to entertain contrary evidence. I know that I came into motherhood with a slew of opinions based on nothing but a limited view of the world; if people hadn't been making bold claims around me, I never would have heard the contrary evidence. I might have just carried on with some quiet assumptions that forever went unchallenged. YKWIM?

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I do. Definitely, completely understand where you are coming from, although from my standpoint, I was still very much in the "do as you're told" vein of thinking when I had Lily, and felt like I had to discipline her the way I had been disciplined. I am so glad that I found another way, and that the things that felt natural to me can actually still be effective, and create more of a bond between the two of us. I really wish I had found out about all of this a lot sooner now. But at least I found out about it before she started school.



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Hooray for rebellion!

Yeah, I'm just hoping I don't fall back on eating meat every night. I'm finding myself doing that already. Old habits and all of that...



Hmm. Tempting, but I'm not sure if Chase would even WANT to get on those rides. He won't even stay in the little kid swings at the park. Although he has been getting into the slide lately.



Sounds like Todd needs a dose of Alfie Kohn! His "Unconditional Parenting" really resonated with me. I've heard the DVD is good (very similar to the talk that he did here a few months ago, so if you went to that...). There are also a lot of articles at Alfie's website. Few are actually parenting articles, but you might find the ones about education equally interesting, given your situation.

And here's another article, from the Natural Child website, about how children react to control.
Yeah, I have the book, and REALLY need to read it. The ideas I've grasped at so far tell me that I should probably be using it as a reference.

I just need to figure out a way to present it to him. He had a very different childhood experience than I did. Said that it really wasn't that bad. He was a much more productive student than I was. He still has all of his letters in his little "treasure box" and there are many. He was one of only six to graduate from the physics program at the University of Oregon in 1997. What's interesting though, is that everyone who experienced it with him, had a different thing to say about it. I know his parents had great difficulty with him, and his sister talked about how it was just a REALLY hard few years from the start of high school until he left. So, while he was focused, he was also apparently quite a "handful".

I think he forgets this.

So... I need to read this, outline the key points and actually prepare a well thought out presentation of the subject matter before he will even listen to me. Hopefully, it will work though.

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hey my dh works hazmat too LOL yep, speaking of, i am at work and almost throwing up on my desk/keyboard...
Yeah, I think I remember us talking about this! We should get together again soon! I want to hear about your trip!
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Hm. I do not care for IKEA couches and loveseats. Not my style. Where else should I look?
dania?

kieran snubbed the zoo, we did CM. as leaving, he hears zoo train, THEN he wants to go- both in 1 day? not for us. and he insist that when we do go and do zoo train, we must ride the disel.
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Also, so bizarre that none of the 5 children who were exposed to Jake's pox are showing any symptoms. It is like day 19 from exposure. Maybe his contagious period was extremely short?
I'm so bummed out that Keagan hasn't got it yet. We still have 2 days though :

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