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07-27-2009 11:14 AM
Rico'sAlice I think it matters to the school in the sense that lead poisoning is bad, it's good public policy to have every small child tested, and this is a way to make it happen. Also, since lead poisoning can lead to behavior problems, learning delays, etc. I guess it would effect the teachers dealing with the child.
Also, as the parent, if I were to send my child to school (or daycare) I would want a level taken before they started, so that if they had problems later and testing showed a high level I would know the source was the school and not my home.

But if it's really an issue for you you probably could just write your own letter, but I can't find any sort of info on actual law allowing for exemption. I guesss blood draws could be against your religion? But would you not get one in other circumstances?

Previous thread-
lead testing exemptions for MA
07-27-2009 10:59 AM
boobyfeeder I always wondered about the lead test. Why does it matter to the schools?
07-27-2009 09:00 AM
DaughterOfKali They didn't require the lead test for my son.

Also, the preschool (and now elementary) doesn't care that it shows that my ds had vax for the first year of his life. They accept the exemption now without question.
07-26-2009 08:50 PM
Monicalynn I don't want to have to take my kid in for a blood draw to see if he has lead posioning. It makes no sense to me why they should care...it's not contagious. Does the exemption work for this, too>
01-28-2009 02:00 PM
Kerrie Our doctor now gives me the physical form and a seperate computer print-out with the vax they have received. Maybe you can ask to have them omit that or is there a way to get a copy that does not include space for the vax on the form?
01-28-2009 01:37 PM
Caly i found the form from DDs physical last year. It clearly states at the top of the page the vax name and the date(s) it was given.

won't really look good especially because it's only a few other vaxes that I dont want to give her. KWIM?

Errrrr, I get so worked up over this
01-28-2009 01:03 PM
DaughterOfKali Even if the child is partially vaxed, it's not a problem as long as you submit that written exemption.
01-28-2009 12:08 PM
Caly
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Originally Posted by Kerrie View Post
All I gave them was thier physical form and the exemption letter. They don't need to know what my kids have and have not received. Yes, at 5 they get thier 'kindergarden' shots. Don't remember what they are.
Hey kerrie! for some strange reason I think that our Doc puts on the form whether she is or isn't fully vaxed so that's why I'm nervous. I want to say he even breaks it out to what she has/hasn't received.
01-28-2009 12:03 PM
Kerrie All I gave them was thier physical form and the exemption letter. They don't need to know what my kids have and have not received. Yes, at 5 they get thier 'kindergarden' shots. Don't remember what they are.
01-28-2009 11:36 AM
Caly ok, I have DD's K registration/orientation coming up in April. So I don't submit ANYTHING other than a religious form for DD? she has some vax's but not all. I 'm especially hesitant about the pox one. I'm scared.

and maybe i should post elsewhere but I believe at their 5 year check up their are some boosters needed as well like polio, DTP, MMR? how important are those boosters? maybe it's time to blow the dust off of our Dr. Sears vax book ;(
08-28-2008 11:38 AM
i*wish :
Jumping in late here but I'm sending my info in today... one day early
Anyhow, I had my doctor fill out the 'physical exam' part of the form but leave the vax info section blank (we had done a couple of vaxes early on). I will submit that with the letter. Could you have your doctor re-do the form that way? I think it's kinda funny because by not filling that in the doctor is kinda 'lying' right? but she did it so i'll shut up now....
08-21-2008 10:12 AM
avivaelona Camotyka we got a new medical form from the school and asked the docs office to fill it out with no vaccination info. We haven't gotten it back yet but I assume its ok because the secretary had no problem when I asked them to fill it out that way.

Its very frustrating if you selectively or delayed vax because you do have to essentially say that you don't, I think its really poor public policy.
08-21-2008 08:10 AM
Kerlowyn You can file an exemption letter anytime you want.

If you no longer want to vax, you need to send in a religious exemption letter. You do not submit the vax records your doc has on file, and the school can not ask for them. There was a form from the school that the doc filled out when DS2 had his physical. If you have that form, the doc can fill it out and leave the vax questions blank. Mine just ended up checking the box 'up to date' anyhow.

If your doc checks off the box 'not up to date', then the exemption letter explains why, end of story.

You do not need to tell the school your child has been vaxed for anything. As far as what they need to know, the letter explains it all, that you don't vax.
08-20-2008 11:39 PM
camotyka I am so confused .

So because my DS has been vaccinated in the past I'm unable to file an exemption because MA is all or nothing? If I send the exemption letter into the school won't the letter conflict with the physical form that get filled out by the pediatricians office? UGH! I'm really lost.
08-16-2008 07:56 AM
Kerlowyn
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Originally Posted by avivaelona View Post
Maybe I need to start a religion which only has a sincerely held opinion about varicella.

Does his great noodly appendage have an opinion on pox?
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Pastafarians Unite!
08-15-2008 11:06 PM
avivaelona Thanks Mumm, I did finally managed to find it...they didn't make it easy!

I think that is the list for kindergarten, for preschool it said

3 of HepB
4 of DTP or DTaP
3 of Polio
at least 1 of HiB
1 MMR

and 1 of varicella,


So he's ok except for the varicella which means that because we are still trying to decide about the safety and efficacy and necessity of this rather new vaccine, we are going to have to do a religious exemption, which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. If I'm asked, do I say my sincere religious beliefs are that I actually believe in good science? At this point belief in well researched and founded science probably is akin to a religious belief. Grrrrr.

Maybe I need to start a religion which only has a sincerely held opinion about varicella.

Does his great noodly appendage have an opinion on pox?
08-15-2008 01:25 PM
Kerrie So I just dropped off the info and just omitted thier vax info and included the letter. I gave it to the principal - he looked at it and didn't say a word.
08-15-2008 10:30 AM
mumm Actually a Physical Exam. Oops
08-15-2008 10:29 AM
mumm one dose of varicella vaccine
3 doses hep b
5 doses dtap/dtp
4 doses polio
2 doses mmr
lead and vision screen
phsycial exam

That is the Mass DPH requirement.
08-15-2008 10:17 AM
avivaelona
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In MA, it's all or nothing.
Do you know what "all" consists of though? Is there a list somewhere? Because its possible he actually has all that is required for his age.

I'm angry about how difficult its made to vax on a different schedule, there is this big public health push to vaccinate, but I feel pushed to not vaccinate at all because I can't do it on a schedule that seems reasonable because if I do I have to write a note that's a lie to say I don't believe in vaccinating at all? Based on a religion that I don't have? That's insane.
08-15-2008 07:51 AM
Kerlowyn DS2 has some vaxes, but I did not include that info. However, the exemption letter over rides everything. Once they see that, they can not ask you anything. The school nurse said she must assume he has nothing, when she saw the letter.

Like a poster above mentioned, you can become your religion anytime.

If an outbreak of something happens at school, I will need to get titers run to show them he has immunity. That will be OK by me, he has had a bit of everything. The nurse was fine with the exemption letter. My feeling was that as long as the child has had a check up, and a doctor knows he is not vaxed, the school nurse was fine. Like the doctor makes it OK

With DS1, even though he is up to date at age 15 (i think he is), I will send the letter and they will think he has nothing. I'll only use the vax records if needed, to show immunity if there is an outbreak; and then I will just have the doctor write a letter about that specific disease. Something like "Student was vaxed for XXX on 8/8/94" and nothing more.
08-14-2008 10:39 PM
Kerrie So is your DS vaxed at all? Did you include something about since xx date we no longer vax?
08-14-2008 06:25 PM
Kerlowyn On DS2's check up form for kindergarten, our doctor checked off 'up to date' also. In his words "well, for your family, you are up to date" (let me know if you want his name )

He knows we are a former selective/delay, now a no vax family.

I just sent in the exemption letter with the check up form, and I did not have a problem.
08-14-2008 02:09 PM
Kerrie Hello all, I'm jumping in. I need to submit my kid's info (just recently decided to send them to school we homeschooled last year). Here are my questions - DD1 (going into 2nd grade) is fully vaxed and DS was 'up to date' until he turned 5 - he didn't get his 'kindergarden' vax or cp vax. I'm fine with submitting that neither of them are vaxed at all but on DS' form the dr checked off that immunizations are up to date and if I could find DD1's I'm sure it would say the same thing. Now what - 'the dr must have forgotten that we don't vax?'
08-14-2008 08:20 AM
mumm
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Originally Posted by veganf View Post
But what if you have since "found" religion? Couldn't you just say that? Or that you have changed religions?
The problem is she's had some vaxs as recently as this year and skipped some from as early on as 5 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Kerlowyn View Post
In MA, it's all or nothing. My kids were selective/delayed, but after a reaction when my DD was 18 months old, they are now done and have not gotten any since. So, even if they have some, you need to go full on religious exemption.

My DS1, age 15 is actually 'up to date'. However, when he goes to his new charter school this month, I will submit an exemption form. I don't want him to have to have any vaxes that might get added to "the list' while he is still in school.
I should have thought of just leaving out the entire immunization form and just submitted the exemption letter. duh. I never thought of that, being the honest person I am and all.
08-14-2008 07:33 AM
Kerlowyn
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Originally Posted by avivaelona View Post
no one knows?
In MA, it's all or nothing. My kids were selective/delayed, but after a reaction when my DD was 18 months old, they are now done and have not gotten any since. So, even if they have some, you need to go full on religious exemption.

My DS1, age 15 is actually 'up to date'. However, when he goes to his new charter school this month, I will submit an exemption form. I don't want him to have to have any vaxes that might get added to "the list' while he is still in school.
08-13-2008 07:11 PM
veganf
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Originally Posted by mumm View Post
Our public school blinked. And called. And said it is either all or nothing. My kids are partially vaxed and they've only picked up on my daughter (going into K) but not my son who has been as the school for 2 years.

I believe I may give in. I'm not going to pull her out of school but will put a plan into place to get her up-to-date over the next year and see if they will go for it. In the meantime I amsticking my head in the sand and ignoring it.
But what if you have since "found" religion? Couldn't you just say that? Or that you have changed religions?
08-13-2008 11:52 AM
mumm Our public school blinked. And called. And said it is either all or nothing. My kids are partially vaxed and they've only picked up on my daughter (going into K) but not my son who has been as the school for 2 years.

I believe I may give in. I'm not going to pull her out of school but will put a plan into place to get her up-to-date over the next year and see if they will go for it. In the meantime I amsticking my head in the sand and ignoring it.
08-13-2008 09:59 AM
avivaelona no one knows?
08-10-2008 01:45 PM
avivaelona What do you do if you've done most Vax's but not all? Is there a list somewhere of what is actually required and what is just suggested?

We've done delayed vaccinating and its resulted in DS entering preschool in the fall having gotten everything but two boosters that I'm not going to give him because he is over the age where the diseases are a risk, and the chicken pox vaccine which I understood wasn't required til age 5. However, the immunization form the doctor sent back was checked "not complete due to parent choice" I don't know if I will need to do an exemption or not?
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