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01-11-2010 10:22 AM
allgirls
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Originally Posted by MommyHawk View Post
wait...what forum is closing?
This forum, today..it's an administrative problem...but we can play in WAHM until the social groups function is available..you will love the social group thing..it's perfect for a writing group!

But there will be a gap.

So come on over to WAHM to play!
01-11-2010 01:45 AM
MommyHawk my genre is either woman's fiction (that's my opinion) or chick-lit (the opinion of someone else)... I think it's too dark/heavy in the beginning to be chick-lit (or however you spell it). It takes on woman's issues - health, sex, career, family - tons of stuff. There is some fluff, but it's just for comic relief. I do think the sequel, however, will be chick-lit. Much fluffier .

what's your genre?
01-11-2010 01:27 AM
OJazzy1
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Originally Posted by MommyHawk View Post
there isn't a way to recover? I'm so sorry for you! I hate that when it happens... back up, back up, back up...I've had to learn that the hard way. You can use an online secure back up Mozy.com for free.
Thanks. I will check that out and get it backed up. No, I can't find it anywhere, I don't know what happened.
01-11-2010 01:03 AM
MommyHawk
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Originally Posted by allgirls View Post
Since the forum is closing but we're going to have social clubs I thought maybe we could meet at the WAHM forum in a dedicated thread until the Social club function is in place.

All rules that apply here apply there

Here is a link.
wait...what forum is closing?
01-11-2010 01:01 AM
MommyHawk
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Originally Posted by OJazzy1 View Post
I lost it!
I was making some progress, granted it was only a few pages but seriously! I opened the file and it was gone! All that was sitting there was 2 paragraphs! UGH!!
there isn't a way to recover? I'm so sorry for you! I hate that when it happens... back up, back up, back up...I've had to learn that the hard way. You can use an online secure back up Mozy.com for free.
01-11-2010 12:59 AM
MommyHawk OK...so I went to my critique group thinking the absolute worst was going to happen...and it didn't...they LOVED IT!!! I got so many "Wow!" comments that I thought they were playing a joke on me. Really.

I put myself out there, basically naked - aka: I told the truth - I didn't let my MC hide behind flowery language. I just put it out there, and bam! It worked!

That was my prologue and I polished and shined it today based on the few mistakes they caught. It is solid, horribly painful and powerful and I can't wait to show it to an agent!

That's where my deadline comes in...end of March. Have to edit two chapters a week to make my deadline. Then I send off my first query letters. Can't wait to get my first rejection!!!

My novel is about one woman's struggle with her own sexual past/health/life, as it goes from one side of the spectrum to the other, until she finds a healthy middle where she can thrive and live her life without all that crap that holds you back. Men... they're so easy. They just get to enjoy themselves. We women are so inside our heads, and there's so many factors that can mess with that, that many of us, IMO, have so much that can interfere with a healthy sex life...and honestly that's one of the many blessings of being a woman. So to find a way to resolve sexual issues and move past them so you can heal and have a good sex life? That's what the book is mainly about.

There's so much more to the story than that of course - her past, her family dynamics, finding herself again, falling in love, all that jazz - but her struggle to have a healthy sex life is the main thread. I didn't even realize this until I wrote the prologue a few weeks ago. Then it just clicked. Amazing how you can write a whole book and still not know what it's about (well, amazing that I did that anyway ) But now I know and so when someone (my Grandmother included, see my blog!) asks what my novel is about, I can tell them in less than an hour

The funniest comment from my critique group: "wow, that was the most sex I've ever read in one chapter!"

I don't know if that's true, but it was funny to hear
01-11-2010 12:58 AM
OJazzy1 I lost it!
I was making some progress, granted it was only a few pages but seriously! I opened the file and it was gone! All that was sitting there was 2 paragraphs! UGH!!
01-11-2010 12:44 AM
MommyHawk
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Originally Posted by Oriole View Post
IF anyone at all remembers me from last year - I'm back. I wanna write...
welcome back!
01-09-2010 07:22 PM
allgirls Since the forum is closing but we're going to have social clubs I thought maybe we could meet at the WAHM forum in a dedicated thread until the Social club function is in place.

All rules that apply here apply there

Here is a link.
01-09-2010 02:10 PM
allgirls I've made so much progress! I'm exactly half way through the final draft and as I've said before the last half is pretty much already final draft so I'm getting there...problem I'm having..time-lines...it's already 2002...I've got to reunite this couple soon..lol

..then I've got to break them up...2004...

..then big finale...2006...

..I didn't think it would go so current but my mc is getting a blackberry in 2006
01-09-2010 09:46 AM
1jooj Thanks, allgirls. It's a start. I'm just trying right now to make sure the dialogue has the content I want in it and moving along, knowing that I'll be back for a second draft revision, but I won't get there until I finish this first draft. So, right now, bad dialogue is better than no dialogue.

Think I am going to take my new Writer mag to the Y, in case I get some whirlpool time. It's not my favorite magazine, but it usually gives me a "yes, I can" feeling.
01-09-2010 12:00 AM
allgirls Ok..King says that generally..dialogue is best done by writers who like to listen and talk...

He says be real. And I can't tell you the example but he says no 8 year old ever ran to tell his mother his little sister "deficated in the tub" and that you should be true to the character...ie your old maid aunt might say "sugar" when she drops something but most characters don't.

"Pay attention to how the real people around you behave and write about what you see."

I think that's all the copyright regs. allow me to say and that's a lot of paraphrasing. He says if you're good you can become great.

I think I'm weak at it...I may go back and tweak all of my dialogue at some point...at least reread it.

That's all I've got so far.
01-08-2010 11:28 PM
allgirls I worry about dialogue...I've never felt I've been good at it.

I was reading somewhere about how it's never going to be exactly like how people speak but it should imply natural dialogue.

I'll grab my copy of On Writing later and have a look...I'm sure Stephen King has something to say on that but I can't remember what.

I worked out my problem in the middle..threw out 2 chapters..rewrote two and it's soooooooooo much better.

Now she's meeting the man she marries..he's a doctor, he's boring but he's stable and perfect and nice and kind...she loves him and marries him...but...she's not really in love with him....so it's a boring part....no passion...so where does the passion go when you are a passionate person with a low-spark person..that is the challenge...one sided arguements....not good reading...ok a challenge to make into good reading....

I'm enjoying the class already and it's just the orientation part.
01-08-2010 11:22 PM
Oriole
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Originally Posted by 1jooj View Post
So is 1K per day too ambitious? I was hoping to average that.
Well, I did aim for that last year very much. I did get my 35K + 8K done somehow. But I couldn't keep up. I guess I'm not a marathon runner, I'm a sprinter? So I need to develop my "long distance" skills. I'm hoping if I allow myself to take the time, I will at least finish it without feeling like I'm always falling behind, yk?

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Any good resources on dialogue? I am not stressing too much about it in the first draft, but unnatural dialogue disturbs me as a writer, and I tend to write like I talk.
No clue, but I hope someone will recommend something! I looked for resources for this last year, and didn't really find anything that spoke to me.
01-08-2010 11:13 PM
1jooj So is 1K per day too ambitious? I was hoping to average that.

I do hope to steal a little time on weekends, but for me, weekdays should actually be more productive. That's when dh is at work and both kids are at school. Strangely, though, evenings have been pretty good. Like I said, though, I think I am actually in a passive-aggressive struggle with myself over time and writing. I want to be able to tell myself, "ok, write," and then write. Effectively and productively. So far it's going well, moving faster and better and more naturally than it has in any other attempt, but I feel like most of that is because I finally opened the right window to the story.

Second day on the job and it seems OK. I had a few things happen at home that slowed me down in the morning, and Fridays are short school days for my kids. So I had less time and more to do. I'll be working over the weekend, too, so it will take discipline to achieve all my goals. Bright side is, when this work task is done, I should be able to hunker down at home again for a few days and focus on my own writing while they handle client-side stuff. This could turn out to be a great arrangement, if I learn to dig in my heels and get my own needs met.

Any good resources on dialogue? I am not stressing too much about it in the first draft, but unnatural dialogue disturbs me as a writer, and I tend to write like I talk. And I am clearly verbose...and most people are not. Especially non-native speakers...*sigh*

I'm going to go write now.
01-08-2010 10:00 AM
allgirls
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That sounds terrific, allgirls, but I don't think I can scare up any more minutes in a day. Have fun! Tell us what you get from it, OK?
I will. I'm hoping it will help me with my WIP as it's about revisions.
01-08-2010 09:40 AM
1jooj That sounds terrific, allgirls, but I don't think I can scare up any more minutes in a day. Have fun! Tell us what you get from it, OK?
01-08-2010 01:11 AM
allgirls
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Originally Posted by Oriole View Post
IF anyone at all remembers me from last year - I'm back. I wanna write...

*reopening the drafts*

- milder goals (no more of 1K per day expectation )
- more disorganized ideas
- scared to reread stuff from last year, but I'm going to anyway...

So refreshing to find everyone writing, just the way I left it.
Welcome! You've been missed! Love the creative use of smilies

Pull up a chair.

Anyone interested in joining a free writing workshop with me online? I've joined and we're just in orientation so it's not too late. It seems pretty interesting. If anyone is I'll pm them a link.

Allgirls
01-08-2010 12:55 AM
Oriole IF anyone at all remembers me from last year - I'm back. I wanna write...

*reopening the drafts*

- milder goals (no more of 1K per day expectation )
- more disorganized ideas
- scared to reread stuff from last year, but I'm going to anyway...

So refreshing to find everyone writing, just the way I left it.
01-08-2010 12:25 AM
allgirls Officially and completely finished with Part one of the novel...the novel is in three parts...I'm very happy with it...

Part two sucks


part three is good and will be great.

Part two sucks...I think I have to re write almost all of it...

The problem I have is it's boring...it's the gap between the love she lost and her journey to realising that it wasn't meant to be when they meet up again and try to rekindle

It's a part where she is doing alot of personal growth and I've got to find interesting ways to present it...of course like real life pg comes through hardship..that's it..she needs more hardship! But what..there is a divorce and a career change but the career change comes after the growth...ok...

Just needing to put it out there..hoping the universe will inspire me.

Congrats on the job. Make it a priority. I like bigger blocks of time..what about one hour per day during the week and you escape to the library for two or three hours on the weekend?

Gym for me tomorrow!

Allgirls!
01-08-2010 12:05 AM
1jooj OK, so sort of unexpectedly, I got offered my old job back. Sort of. I'd quit last year due to complete and utter lack of work/life balance and was really on the brink. I write for work. So I am going back, effective today, actually. It's a waaaaay lighter arrangement, as-needed only and no regular hours, no requirements to be there except for meetings, which I can also teleconference in as needed if I can't be at the office because of home stuff...so my worry is how to keep the novel moving.

At the same time, I finally blew a whistle on my weight creep and am back to the gym. So I need to remain committed to an hour of exercise and an hour of writing, minimum, daily. Weekends, too. I can scale back the exercise some once I hit my goal weight, but realistically that will not be happening for months.

Just putting it out there, hoping you ladies can help work energy magic. If I stay committed and focused, it should happen. I may, however, need to find an offline location to write.
01-06-2010 06:56 PM
allgirls
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You might consider his using a name that just starts with the same letter...like Eddie. Weird, I know, but a lot of Muslims do this, as their names sound so foreign to so many...they often end up being called by Hebrew names. The irony, right?
Oh..I like that..Eddie...for another reason...will try it on..Enoch...changed to Eddie...we might have a winner!
01-06-2010 06:12 PM
1jooj You might consider his using a name that just starts with the same letter...like Eddie. Weird, I know, but a lot of Muslims do this, as their names sound so foreign to so many...they often end up being called by Hebrew names. The irony, right?
01-06-2010 04:16 PM
OJazzy1 Jebediah is a good "strange" biblical name and can be shortened as well. I am starting to write my novel. I am only a few pages in so I have a long way to go, I am having a hard time staying motivated and excited about it though, I think I just need to write.
01-06-2010 02:46 PM
allgirls
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Enoch.

I realized I have to mess with myself and give myself a sense of latitude and autonomy, as in picking the time of day I write. I am insane.

But so far, it's working.
Enoch is a good one...but now I'm thinking it should be something he can shorten because he hates it so much..he's semi-estranged from them and denying their religion
01-06-2010 10:30 AM
1jooj Enoch.

I realized I have to mess with myself and give myself a sense of latitude and autonomy, as in picking the time of day I write. I am insane.

But so far, it's working.
01-06-2010 01:11 AM
allgirls I am at chapter 17 of the final draft. The first five are nice and shiny and completely rewritten.

The rest were pretty nice to start with.

I feel like I'm going to be on schedule at this point. Tomorrow will be a writing day, all kids in school and nothing planned except the gym and laundry!

I'm excited! I have had some great ideas to incorporate into some places, may have the new title decided on and feel like it's all coming together.

Now I need a biblical name, that goes with the surname Cormack for a minor character that I forgot to name. I would prefer it be old testament and a little odd. Suggestions welcome.
01-04-2010 03:26 PM
1jooj
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The sex throws me off...
omg me too.
01-04-2010 12:38 PM
allgirls
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As for characters, mine are really made up and my story is not one I know specifically to have actually happened to anyone. But I have overheard conversations and watched family dynamics that led me to imagine this plot, and I am inserting various characters of people I know in my own life...but most of these characters are people who have passed away. So I don't worry about a libel suit.
So kind of the opposite..I have a made up plot with partly real characters..though two or three events actually happened they are only scenes in a bigger story.

It's harder to let people read your "art" because that's all YOU. It's a reflection of how you think.

The sex throws me off...
01-04-2010 10:20 AM
1jooj Yeah, MommyHawk, do let us know...I guess I would rather take the feedback from a bunch of honest, avid readers and then try to figure out what to do with it, technically, than try to take the advice of a lot of well-meaning writers with divergent opinions. Does that make sense? I mean, most people reading the book will not be writers themselves, so...maybe a single writer as mentor, maybe two, is enough? God knows, once agent and editor are involved, you have a slew more changes (or at least opinions) to consider.

I have issues with allowing others to read my writing. I know, weird, as I am a professional writer. I have worked years in editing/publishing, and now I write for advertising and marketing. I crank out copy in just about any format, with shorter deadlines than even I can believe, and get great feedback from some crazy big names...and yet, when I write for art's sake, it's a whole other feeling. I need to get over myself.

Took my kids to the children's museum yesterday and brought my laptop. I worked on some freelance stuff I am helping a friend with, and when I ran out of notes for that, I wrote another 1000w on my novel.

I am tying my writing to my exercise goals for the year. I let my weight slide back after losing 100 pounds a few years ago, so I have concrete, tangible diet and exercise goals because I know they will lead to success again. So, because I know I will achieve that goal, I am trying to affix the other goal to it. If I can set aside the hours in the day to exercise, then I can set aside the hour in the day to write. And it will be done.

As for characters, mine are really made up and my story is not one I know specifically to have actually happened to anyone. But I have overheard conversations and watched family dynamics that led me to imagine this plot, and I am inserting various characters of people I know in my own life...but most of these characters are people who have passed away. So I don't worry about a libel suit.
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