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06-21-2004 09:25 PM
KarmaChameleon Hi erin!!!! I LOVE her name (not sure if you know, but my middle name is Hope) andI can't wait to meet her...

One note before I gracefully butt out of your thread...not sure if you noticed but I am sure 100 people told you...the lilies bloomed!!!!! On Sunday I noticed a few orange daylilies for the first time. ahhhhhhh. So poetic

If you need any bf'ing help or support, I am all over that. Don't be afraid to reach out - I am right here
06-21-2004 09:03 PM
LizD for anyone who still has a cord stump to deal with, i must recommend goldenseal powder, or even better, cord care. i was dealing with a nasty inflamed cord stump last week (the one disadvantage to diaperaps is they are too unyielding to tuck under the cord) and got some diaper pins and left the covers off, which has made for a lot of laundry. i opened a goldenseal capsule and started using that, which had the most of the stump off in two days. then there was this weird little bit left. i was afraid it would stay and my fine new son would have the most horrible bellybutton in the world. the mw assured me that would come off too. it has taken a while. my friend gave me her leftover cord care powder, which is grape as well as goldenseal, and this bit has shrivelled in just two hours since applying it once. very cool!
06-21-2004 08:57 PM
LizD someone put my placenta in the freezer before i had a chance to look at it, and i was rather annoyed. i saw it when it was delivered but wanted really to look at it before it was frozen...well, everyone was trying to be helpful and clean up and so on, so i shouldn't be annoyed. i was also annoyed that my neighbor, who has had seven babies and assisted at a few "unassisted" births, was there for my daughter and since my daughter was next to me at the very end, my friend was quietly watching from the hall. that would have been fine except after his enormous head was out and i was just lying there ecstatic and peaceful, she muttered something about delivering the shoulders. she was present at a shoulder dystocia with no mw or medical help, so i know it came from concern, but i am pissed that she said anything and loud enough for me to hear. i wasn't worried in the least and i had three excellent midwives caring for me. my midwife is also so skilled she never lets her clients know if she is concerned until she needs to take action; she maintains a really calm demeanor and environment. so i am a little peeved about my neighbor/friend and thinking, i knew better, i knew i didn't want anyone but the hired midwives...i had only asked her to be available "in case" but my poor daughter was really getting upset and i asked her if she wanted our friend's company without thinking it through too well. oh well. for my first birth i wanted to ask friends but thought better of it, and then wondered if i should have had them anyway. this time i asked her to come for my kid, and realized i should have hired a doula to be there for my daughter. if i am ever blessed to have more children (though we are in no way shape or form planning on any more-not that we planned these two) i will know i do not want friends there, except for two who live too far away.

it is interesting that after the fact one can start thinking in terms of how to have an even better time birthing the next baby, and forget it was really fabulous this time, despite the small, very small dissatisfactions. i am reminded of my cesarean-birthing clients- immediately after the birth everyone, in my experience, says they are so thrilled they don't care about the surgery. it is only later, if at all, that disappointment and depression set in. it is an interesting phenomenon that we are so focused on bonding we only deal with the birth later.
06-21-2004 06:02 PM
dharmama Well my Saturday morning goopiness was in fact a sign that something great was happening....

Lilia Hope (Lily) was born Sat. night @ 8:50 p.m. after about 8 hours of labor...almost 7 of which were at home.

Labor and birth were AMAZING....better than I ever dreamed.

Nursing was (still kind of is) a struggle for us. I have flat/inverted nipples and getting the first latch was INCREDIBLY frustrating for both of us. After hours of trying we decided to use a nipple shield and even had to sprinkle some formula on it to get Lily to even TRY to latch. The nurses and LC were VERY helpful and we finally got a latch.

By last night I was able to nurse one side w/out the shield and both sides w/out the formula're getting it slowly but surely.

Typing one-handed and does it hurt to sit so I'll have to keep this short...

Paula ~ Sending lots of cervix-opening thoughts. FWIW ~ I went for accupunture Fri. afternoon...I think it made a big difference!! Just a thought.


PS ~ Thanks for posting an update Mandy!
06-20-2004 11:41 PM
Greaseball So, what has everyone else done with the placenta?

I took mine out of the freezer and put it in the fridge to defrost it, and the bag leaked! I came home to a pool of HUMAN BLOOD in the fridge. It just missed our vegetables.
06-20-2004 03:09 PM
wildthing Congratulations Erin!!!!! Take care of yourslef, enjoy your little girl.....I can't wait to hear details! Welcome baby!!!!

Paula, we are here for you. I was overdue with my first 7 babies...I know all too well how discouraging it can be. Your body is perfect, your baby knows when to come. You will not be pregnant forever!

On another note, we finally decided on a name for our baby. His name is Landen Drayke. I am almost finished with my birth stroy, and I have been adding pictures to go along with it. Coming SOON!!!!!
06-20-2004 01:27 PM
irishgreengables Thanks for the encouraging words.

After hearing what induction involves (different from what I have read as our hospital uses a foley catheter to essentially strip the membranes first), I REALLY don't want to go there. I didn't befopre, but even more so now.

The good news is that baby looks really healthy -- they keep telling me.

The bummer is that our kids' nana left yesterday after a 10 day helpful stay -- with no baby to welcome and, after having nursed 3 babies herslf, no newborn help for me. Ah well.

06-20-2004 12:42 PM
mattjule Yay Erin!!!
06-20-2004 11:38 AM
KarmaChameleon Hi Ladies!

I just heard from Erin (Dharmama)'s hubby...her baby girl was born last night after a hard and beautiful (and IMO, short!) labor.

I want her to have the honor of announcing her name and stats and details, but she had asked me ahead of time to be in charge of keeping you all in the know. She has a great respect and love for her due date club mamas and it was important not to leave anyone hanging!

So Baby is here and everyone is doing great. I guess they are having lots of pampering at the hospital so they are going to take the 2nd day to relax and bond.


ETA: I just realized the baby was born almost exactly at the moment of the beginning of summer... a solstice baby!
06-20-2004 10:33 AM
HoneymoonBaby He's precious, Rubelin. Sending "go home quick" vibes his way.

For anyone interested, I posted my birth story and some pics in the announcement thread.
06-20-2004 06:05 AM
rubelin Hi there! I'm having my nightly pumping/'puter break before heading back to the hospital and thught I'd say hi. Kieran is doing well and is almost completely weaned off the extra oxygen so were hoping he'll get to come home on Monday. This has been the hardest 2 weeks of my life and I can't wait to have my baby home. Here's a pic we took Thursday nightKieran pic He looks so much like his brother that I keep calling him Benny

snuggles to all the new babes, belly rubs to those not ready for birthin' and labor vibes to those who are!!
06-20-2004 12:46 AM
Greaseball Mine was slimy, and smelled a little like urine.
06-20-2004 12:44 AM
LizD Paula, please don't be discouraged or start thinking induction... a closed cervix simply means it's not time yet. I have also had clients go from 2 to 10 in less than an hour, so don't fall into thinking "nothing's happening." Everything is happening exactly as it should.

Amniotic fluid can be really slimy. It also smells very fleshy, and a bit like semen.
06-20-2004 12:35 AM
HoneymoonBaby Paula.

I would be so frustrated if I were you. Hang in there -- baby can't stay in forever!
06-19-2004 11:55 PM
Smithie Oh Paula... be strong! It will happen very soon! And for godsake, SLEEP while you can!
06-19-2004 09:49 PM
irishgreengables Well...after 12 hours of strong contractions that culminated in them being 3 minutes apart, I went to the hospital at 4 this morning -- and was told that my cervix is still closed -- and that this just happens to some women. Argh! I am so fristrated.

Cervix opening thoughts please!!

06-19-2004 04:47 PM
Doodlebugsmom Hi everyone! Just wanted to drop in and check on everyone. It sounds like everybody is doing just fine. Here is a link to some pics of Julian, dd, and me.
06-19-2004 03:45 PM
Greaseball Rynna, maybe you'll have a full-term baby after all!

I've been having that diaper-buying addiction problem again. I've ventured off the TP and bought a new diaper from FMBG. I try not to buy any more dipes until the ones I've already ordered have arrived, and can't seem to stick to that! Every time I PM someone off the TP I regret it and hope that they tell me it's been sold, but it's almost always available, and then I buy it...I registered at naturalbabies so my family can buy newborn dipes but then I find stuff on the TP that isn't sold at NB...ack! I bought 6 diapers yesterday!
06-19-2004 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by curlygrrl
From a fellow curly, I'd love to encourage you to check out The Curly Girl Handbook by Lorraine Massey. I learned that low-maintenance is really the way to go with curls, I *never* comb it and only condition it every other day. I'd a lot less work and my curls are amazing! I cut my hair off before DS was born and really regretted it.
I've shaved it all off before, and I absolutely love it. My hair gets really really dry and I have to condition it every day, and I can't walk around with it on my neck in the heat because it gets on my nerves, so I put it up in a ponytail which requires a comb if I don't want to feel silly. When I've got a super-short, military style cut, however, I'm much more relaxed about it all. I don't need to condition it, and I use a lot less shampoo. It's definately the way to go.

It looks like our computer problems are bigger than we anticipated, and I'm going to lose all my data *again* . Not only that, but it's going to cost us at least another $550 to get it up and running again. We're spending $1000 every two years, and we're not even trying to maintain a cutting edge machine! It's just not right!!! I'm unbelieveably depressed about this!!! I'm also super pissed off that the Hanna I wanted to order, which was on sale all last week, is now completely sold out in the color I wanted. It wasn't sold out the last time I looked, but I didn't have a chance to order it then and now it's GONE and I'm absolutely LIVID about it. It's just not fair!!!! Why me?!

I'm so ready to be finished being pregnant. I can't stand this I'm just too tired and depressed and hormonal and miserable and nothing is right. Everything is super yucky!
06-19-2004 01:08 PM
wildthing Erin,
Amniotic fluid can be a gush, or it can be a slow trickle. This last labor, I was loosing "something" as well during early labor. I told dh it might have been a slow leak, or it was mucus, which can be watery or thick as well.

Gee, that was helpful, huh?

Good lock Erin! It sounds like things may be happening. Sending you peaceful labor vibes.
06-19-2004 09:52 AM
dharmama Hi Rynna ~ Nice to hear from you!!! SO glad Eli is all better!!

Hmmmm....not sure but I think *something* might be going on...

I am releasing copious amounts of something...amniotic fluid? cervical mucus? I'm not sure. I always pictured amniotic fluid to be VERY watery and a big gush. This is more like the most fertile EWCM I could ever imagine and there is a LOT of it.

Having some very mild irregular contractions and hoping this is it!!!
06-19-2004 02:10 AM
Originally Posted by eilonwy
In a week and a half (on my due date!) my brother, his wife, and my nephew are coming in to PA. We will have our pictures taken and then I will CUT OFF ALL OF MY HAIR!!! I'm looking forward to this almost as much as I'm looking forward to giving birth. :LOL : It's so freaking hot, and I feel like I'm wasting valuable time and energy washing and combing it every day. Don't get me wrong, I love my hair, but right now it just feels like a waste of time to me.
From a fellow curly, I'd love to encourage you to check out The Curly Girl Handbook by Lorraine Massey. I learned that low-maintenance is really the way to go with curls, I *never* comb it and only condition it every other day. I'd a lot less work and my curls are amazing! I cut my hair off before DS was born and really regretted it.

06-19-2004 02:00 AM
Greaseball I read that legally, a child does not need a name until age 5. Tell that to your family; they'll freak out thinking you are going to wait that long! Or tell them you're going to let him pick his own name. :LOL
06-19-2004 01:55 AM
LizD Congratulations everyone! Our baby is ten days old and still unnamed. We really like the name Rowan but we named our other baby who was stillborn Rowan years ago. Sometimes I feel this is the same baby anyway, so he can have the same name, other times I fear that would be unlucky. We are getting an interesting variety of responses about not having a name yet. Some people find it very odd and some say oh yes, my baby was three weeks old before he had a name. My mother in law is going insane over this and swears she has never heard of such a thing. She asked me the other day in an outraged tone, didn't you discuss this at all?! At least no one has mentioned a bris.
We are still out and about and feeling groovy. Our guy had his birthweight back at eight days but as we don't have our own scale I don't know how much he lost. A few people have confidently assumed I had a csection! Some because he is so big (9,8 at birth) and one bc his head is so round.
06-19-2004 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by eilonwy
People keep asking me if I know what I'm having. I usually say "A baby." but I'm so tempted lately to say something like "a litter of gerbils" or "a bottle-nosed dolphin" or "I don't know which of the aliens inseminated me, so I'm not sure if it'll have two tails or three." :LOL
Rynna, dh got tired of people asking the same thing. At first he would tell people that "we're 95% positive that it will be a baby." Then, when he got tired of that response, he changed it to "We're 50% sure it will be a boy." : That got people to stop asking. In fact, most people didn't get it!

Originally Posted by Doodlebugsmom
I had trouble sleeping last night due to pain in my hips and horrible afterpains.
I so understand about both pains. I would be in tears because of the afterbirth pains. My mw said that they get worse with each birth! How do you mamas with 3 or more children do it? Thankfully, they went away after 3 days.

I better get some sleep. Belly rubs to those mamas who are in waiting!
06-19-2004 12:00 AM
eilonwy Hello! We still don't have our computer at home, but I'm at the IL's for the night so I can log on for a while without worrying about a time limit! Ah, it's the simple things that make life grand!

It's so exciting to read about the new babies! I'm so happy and giddy and such. I spent the last two nights (with Eli) at my mom's house ostensibly so Mike could clean and have some time to himself. Well, he had lots of time and was a much happier person, but didn't really do any cleaning (two loads of laundry. That's nothing!) It was great, except that Eli really missed Dada on Thursday night and kept waking up in the middle of the night asking for Mike and being upset that all he could have was a nursie. It's the longest Eli's been away from Dada since he got out of the NICU and it was just too much for him. He was SO excited when he got to see Mike this afternoon!

People keep asking me if I know what I'm having. I usually say "A baby." but I'm so tempted lately to say something like "a litter of gerbils" or "a bottle-nosed dolphin" or "I don't know which of the aliens inseminated me, so I'm not sure if it'll have two tails or three." :LOL In fact, I'm fairly certain that the next time someone asks, I'll say one of those things. I'm big enough and far enough along that I just don't care about their reactions at all, I feel totally self-centered and more than entitled to my opinions. More than usual, even! :LOL :

Eli is all better, no sign of infection; everything is in place and ready to go. I am *so* totally ready to deliver this baby! I actually went into the hospital late Monday night/early Teusday morning because I was having regular contractions which, while they didn't hurt, totally nauseated me. While I was on the monitor, I noticed that NewBean's heartrate would drop when I had a contraction. Well, apparently the resident didn't dictate well enough, because when my doctor read it he had the impression that she was having late decelerations instead of variable decelerations, so he sent me back in for an NST and a fluid check (because when my water broke with Eli I didn't know it had happened, and late decelerations can be indicative of fluid loss). Everything was lovely, and NewBean is still baking. I'm ready to have her out, but she'll come when she comes. Oh yes, I am *so* ready!

Queenie, I used a diaphragm for a while and my only bit of advice is this: they don't work when they're on the night table. That's why we have an EliBean. :LOL : From my experience, I say it's easier to deal with abstaining a few days a cycle than it is to remember the diaphragm when things are likely to get intimate. *Much* easier. NewBean could easily have been concieved on my second cycle after Eli was born... and if that had been the case she would be 9 months old right now!! : If it had been solely up to the diaphragm, I would most certainly be a tired, still-annoyed mother of two rather than a tired, soon-to-be mother of two. I'm glad that I learned about NFP and talked with Mike about it. That's the thing about NFP, if your partner isn't 100% on board, it probably won't work. It definately requires more cooperation than a diaphragm or a condom or something.. but again, it's much easier to deal with, becuase you can deal with things before they get hot & heavy.

Donna, I told my mom you were calling your baby "TiBA LiNN" and she started laughing and said "To Be Announced? That's hilarious!" right away. So someone got it! :LOL

It's so strange to me, not only to be Officially Full Term, but to not be murderously angry all the time. Yesterday a punk pissed me off and I was really angry but it occured to me that I felt that way *all the time* in the month leading up to Eli's birth. I don't know if I'm just more relaxed or if people are nicer in general to me this time.

I'm sorry to hear that people are harrassing you about inducing already, Erin. I was talking to my sister about my niece; I thought that she was born at 40 weeks 5 days, but it turns out that she was born at 42 weeks 1 day. :LOL I had it all wrong. She had NST's at 40 weeks, 41 weeks, and was scheduled for another at 42 weeks but she had the baby after having her membranes stripped that morning. I told my doctor what I thought about it all and he said that they don't induce before 42 weeks unless something is wrong, and even then they're willing to wait as long as you are and everything's fine because dates are just guesses, really, even if they have been "confirmed" by ultrasound. On one hand, it's depressing to think of myself being 43 or 44 weeks pregnant but on the other hand, I'm glad I won't have to worry about that stuff unless NewBean starts showing signs of stress.

I bought some EPO the other day and Mike laughed at me. "You're such a dork, to spend money on something that's going to happen anyway." Yeah, well, I think he's a dork sometimes too. :LOL I'm *tired* of being pregnant and if taking a gelly capsule could potentially help, I'm so there! They totally drop my blood sugar if I don't eat something right away though.. I almost passed out today because I hadn't thought about it when I took them. :doh

In a week and a half (on my due date!) my brother, his wife, and my nephew are coming in to PA. We will have our pictures taken and then I will CUT OFF ALL OF MY HAIR!!! I'm looking forward to this almost as much as I'm looking forward to giving birth. :LOL : It's so freaking hot, and I feel like I'm wasting valuable time and energy washing and combing it every day. Don't get me wrong, I love my hair, but right now it just feels like a waste of time to me. People who aren't super-close to me (like SIL, friends of my sister, etc) just can't understand why I'd deliberately shave my hair off, because I have what everybody wants. It's long, it's red, it's curly but fine, not too thick and not too thin, bouncy and soft and super cute... but it's just such a drain on me right now! SIL thinks that I should leave it long enough to curl because it's just soooo cute. Hello, I'm 26 years old and people already think I'm 17. I have no desire whatsoever for people to think I'm younger, or to "look just like a doll" Ick! Not on your life, I don't want to look like Little Orphan Annie. She just can't understand why I wouldn't want to. Um, am I the only person around who has no desire to look like a doll?

At any rate, I'm hoping to have the baby soon. I'm just tired of being pregnant and I want to meet my NewBean. . Bring on the labor vibes!

And now, off to edit the list! Please correct my dates if they're wrong; the dates I see here are not always accurate.
06-18-2004 09:10 PM
Smithie I'm in the same boat WRT birth control, Queenie, except I can't use a diaphragm bc of the UTI factor (and also I'm not rarin' to go, but after another week of letting things get healed I'm sure I will be). I think we're stuck with condoms unless they've started selling the sponge again in the US. Fortunately, dh is very understanding and doesn't fuss about using condoms. Pre-baby, I used Norplant for 4 years and loved it.

This morning's Super Awake Baby has turned into this afternoon's nap To End All Naps. My parents, bro and dh all took their cue from James and went to sleep, but I can't seem to. Is it really true that most moms "sleep while baby sleeps" during the day? Will I learn to eventually?
06-18-2004 07:32 PM
dharmama I hearing the updates from all you new mamas....can't wait to join you!!

I went for an acupuncture treatment today. I talked to my doula this morning and she encouraged me to give it a try. It was an incredible release. The doctor put the needles in and left the soon as the door closed I realized tears were streaming down my face. I also ummm...released quite a lot of gas : so clearly the energy was flowing!! :LOL

On the way home I stopped and got take-out at our favorite Indian restaurant. Hopefully DH will be in the mood for some lovin tonight!

06-18-2004 03:45 PM
Greaseball How about NFP in combination with diaphragm on the fertile days?

I think I am having the last-baby syndrome. I don't really want another one, but I'm sad when I think of never doing this again. No more newborns, no birth preparations, no cute diapers to buy, no nursing EVER AGAIN! I almost can't imagine.

Andrea and I are doing well. The only problem is the constant spitting up. I'm afraid to take her anywhere because she might throw up all over something. Sometimes it's only once a day, sometimes 3 times a day or more.

We aren't co-sleeping anymore because dh and I decided to share a bed again (long story...we had separate rooms for the past 6 months due to snoring, tossing and turning, etc.) and I really missed sharing a bed with him so I'm glad he's back, but he says Andrea's sleeping noises are too much for him. They don't bother me at all. I miss sleeping with her, but she's doing fine in the crib.
06-18-2004 03:18 PM
Queen of Cups Congrats to all the new mommies!

Life is going good here - still in moving hell - but Killy is doing great! The only thing I'm worried about at the moment is birth control. I was planning on practicing ecological breastfeeding. BUT, Killy is already sleeping 4-5 hours straight each night. (For breastfeeding to be a really effective means of BC, you need to be feeding every 2-3 hours around the clock.) Part of me would love to have another baby within a year (!) - but I'm worried about my milk drying up if I get pregnant again too soon. My sister and I are 20 months apart, and my mom said her milk dried up about 4 months into pregnancy and she ended up weaning me at that point. I'd like Killy to be mainly breastfed for at least one year because I want to feed him very few solids the first year as we have a family history of terrible food allergies (I plan on nursing him as long as he wants). The last factor is that I'm EXTREMELY fertile, as are all the women in my family. It only took 19 days off The Pill for me to concieve Killy! So, I need to figure out this birth control thing quickly - DH and I are raring to go! I don't want to go on the Pill, I don't want an IUD, and I don't want to do NFP because I don't want to have several days of abstinence every month... Am I diaphram bound?
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