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09-05-2012 07:04 PM

The new thread is up.

09-05-2012 06:06 PM
auraleigh Hi ladies,

I took my first IM estrogen shot tonight. Not terrible at all. However for some reason it sent me into a really sad mood. I think I'm worried that this FET won't work. Or the one after. Or my final fresh. I'm scared we will be out of money without a baby. I'm scared I'll have nothing to show for all this. greensad.gif
09-05-2012 07:01 AM

Aura - I have never even heard of those two drugs. I am going to look them up. Maybe I will email dr. fisch and ask him what he thinks. I love that I can just email him and he will get back to me - my old Dr. was such a pain to get a hold of.


AFM - I head back from the nurse, and I need to be in Vegas on Dec. 3. DH needs to be there on the 5th, but I think I am going to ask him to come out on the 4th because last time I was worried that I would go early and he would not be there. He has the time off anyway, if he leaves on the night of the 4th. We are still trying to work out when we will go back - DS has a violin performance on the 15th, and I really don't want him to miss it, so I think that I may send DH and DS home early and I will just be there to relax, and in case we have a 5-day transfer.


ETA - OK, I will start a new thread when I get a little work done this morning.

09-04-2012 09:45 PM

RCR- It's all yours!

09-04-2012 05:00 PM

rcr I say go for it!  It's September, we could use some new thread BFPs!! (Especially since I'll be doing my FET soon!)  I think the no caffeine is worth a try.  I did decaf my first two ivfs and no caff my last... I know Teresa's dr even told her no chocolate!  As far as supplements, Dr T had me on pycnogenol and inositol three times a day.  I'd like to think they worked wonders, as my egg quality was great this time, but I know protocol played a larger part in that.  But they weren't expensive so I'm still taking them.


blue, can't wait to hear the news from your upcoming appointments! 


so nervous, welcome!  it's not over until the beta, so stay positive.  how are you feeling?  your retrieval was on my bday, that must be lucky!


afm, i think my period is TRYING to come.  It's not quite spotting, but it's something.  Dr T said that if it doesn't come by Thursday I should just start the estrogen shots regardless.  I think this delay is going to push my transfer back a few days, but maybe not.  I should know more tomorrow.  

09-04-2012 02:00 PM

Another thing - can I do the fall thread? Is it fall where you all live (it is never really fall here).

09-04-2012 06:33 AM

Aura - ugh, sorry about AF not showing up. Mine was a day or so late while on lupron, but it did show up in time and everything went as planned. DS is in a montessori school, so they don't really do homework, but I am not worried about him missing school - just the end of year celebration. He is only 4, so its not like he is going to fall behind for missing 2 weeks of school (some kids aren't even in school at his age). I am doing a few things differently this cycle - I am not drinking coffee at all (last time I was doing decaf, which still has a little caffine), I am trying to not drink at all (last time I drank wine every now and then, but still not a lot). I am also going to start taking prenatels and COQ10 (need to start that tomorrow, now that I remember :). I was taking more vitamins, which I have been taking for years, but they never helped, obviously, so I don't see any harm in giving them up. I am open to suggestions? Is there anything else I should be doing?

09-04-2012 06:21 AM
blueyezz4 SoNervous- Welcome!!! With my first ivf I tested negative the day before my beta and the beta turned out positive ( ended in a m/c though) but it can happen so don't lose hope. Fingers crossed for you!!!
09-04-2012 05:54 AM
SoNervous Me 38 tubaligation
DH 35 excellent

ER 08/19/12 16 eggs 3 fertilized
ET 08/22/12. 3 transferred (1 4cell, 1 6cell & 1 8cell)

08/31/12 hpt bfn
09/01-09/04/12 hpt bfn
Scared that it didn't work.
Beta scheduled for 09/05/12
Praying for a BFP

Anyone else test negative & end up with a positive
09-04-2012 05:33 AM
blueyezz4 Rcr- hope you get your schedule figured out so DS can be in the play.

Aura- I'm at my intralipids appt now and I have my next Ob appt on the 18th and. Ext u/s on the 21st. Grrr to AF not showing up!! Fingers crossed for a free baby. Wishful thinking!!

Deborah- rcr was saying that she also has increased natural killer cells not TPO antibodies. Intralipids are used for killer cells not TPO antibodies.
09-03-2012 08:11 PM

Blue and RCR- I have anti-thyroid antibodies and they put me on prednisone in the first tri to deal with that.

09-03-2012 06:53 PM

hello ladies!!  hope you all had a lovely long weekend.


renavoo, how is the nanny?  getting used to the idea of going back to work? i can't wait to see more baby photos! 


belly, how are you and all the girls holding up?  i'm still waiting for photos! i lol'd about your dream, i would take you out to lunch any time :)


blue, when is your next appt? I was cracking up about how much you've been eating lately, but it's what the baby needs!  


rcr, it kind of stinks about your ds's school, but it is what it is.  if he misses two weeks, can you get work from the teacher to do with him while you're there? how cute that he was the baby jesus! i bet things will work out so he still gets to participate.  so are you doing anything to gear up for this cycle?  anything different than before? 


gtree, looks like a plus to me! congrats!!


deborah, good luck with this upcoming cycle.  it sounds like your dr really has your best interests in mind. 


afm, i was supposed to get my period on friday so i could start my IM estrogen shots on sunday night.  when the dr called with my us and bw results they told me to start up, but when i explained I hadn't had any bleeding the nurse said to wait until i bleed, then take the shot 24 hours later.  sadly it's monday and NO bleeding.  nothing.  not a spot.  i am going to call tomorrow and let them know, but i'm worried it's going to push my calendar out.  i had it perfectly planned so that my transfer was on a friday and i could be on bedrest for the weekend.  if they move me out i'd be stuck having to transfer in the middle of the week and i can't afford to lose many more vacation days.  since this is just supplemental estrogen i'm hoping it won't really matter.  did anyone else miss a period while on lupron?  i've been on it for 10 days now.  

09-03-2012 06:27 PM

gtree - congrats! No worries about posting here! you are welcome!


Deborah - I tested positive for NK cells too.Like Blue, I did the interkipid treatment before transfer. It was easy and not too expensive. The doc explained it like blue did, the the body recognizes the baby as foreign and kills it off. the interlipids are supposed to make the body a perfect environment for welcoming a baby. I have also thought about egg donation. There is a wonderful online forum for parents via egg donation that I have stalked when I was trying to decide. For me it made more sense to use my last insurance IVF try on my own eggs and then if that fails just move on to donor embryos (way cheaper). It is really expensive to do a traditional donor egg cycle (although apparently a lot cheaper in the czech republic), and kinda affordable to do a donor embryo cycle.  We are thinking of california conceptions is this last IVF fails, although I am thinking positively about it.


Blue - I haven't gotten my schedule yet. Hopefully soon.


AFM - I relized that I am supposed to be in vegas three weeks before DS gets out of school. Hopefully we will be able to make it back for him to go to the last week of class, so that he can do the xmas play. We are not even christian, but he was so damn cute last year (he played the baby Jesus), I don't want to miss it or have him miss it.

09-03-2012 11:44 AM

Deborah - TPO antibodies are Thyroid peroxidase antibodies  or a sign of autoimmune thyroid disease.  Which basically means that probably my immune system is attacking my Thyroid or a Hashimoto's.

09-03-2012 11:03 AM

Blue- It wasn't that she was willing to use my own eggs, it was that she was willing to work with me. Egg quality was poor to begin with and it can change considerably in a year. I suspect that I am not ovulating every month and that when I am it is not effective. Aside from that, my Endo is back and really bad which means my egg quality could have been attacked some more. I meant to put 2 transferred last time. One made it and split, the other didn't stick. What are TPO antibodies?

09-03-2012 10:36 AM

Thanks Blue!  Sorry that I just showed up and posted this, I meant to post this in my other forum where I am more active, I guess I was lurking in here most recently.  My beta test is on Friday.  I transferred 2. 

09-03-2012 10:06 AM

gtree - Congrats!!!!! joy.gifI totally see the line!!!  When is your actual beta test??? 

09-03-2012 10:02 AM
Originally Posted by deborahbgkelly View Post

Blue- We transferred last time. I was just curious what it was about. I thought you had tested positive for anti-phospholipid antibodies. I am not talking surrogacy- which is when someone else carries the baby. Donor eggs would mean I would cycle with another woman and one of her eggs would be transferred to my uterus and any extras would be frozen. Here's my clinic's site (they do a good job of explaining things):



Deborah - I know you transferred last time, but my question was how many did you transfer???  I also know what surrogacy is b/c DH & I have talked about it in the past, but prob couldn't afford it on our end in the long run.  I just couldn't understand why you needed to use donor eggs when the last thing you posted on here was that your RE was willing to use your own eggs again?  The fact that you got a BFP on your first try w/ IVF is amazing and I'd think that you are probably a good candidate to get prego again w/ IVF using the same method you did before (but maybe some different drugs for your ER after your bad experience there).   Oh, no I don't have anti-phospholipid antibodies but i do have + TPO antibodies, maybe that is what you were thinking, but i guess that has nothing to do w/ the need for intralipids.  Hope that clarifies!! 

09-03-2012 09:53 AM

Do you see what I see?  

09-03-2012 03:01 AM

Hi ladies! Just checking in.


Rcr, I'm looking forward to following you through your next cycle. I hope your mother continues to rest comfortably. My father had to go into hospice care and I was forever grateful for the nice people who took care of him during those weeks.


Aura, I'm glad you told that woman off. There is never any call to be unprofessional and i'm glad your manager stood by you. 


Blue, I'm still dancing over here for you! Yah to 9 weeks! 


Everyone, just hoping for some BFPs!

09-02-2012 10:24 PM

Blue- We transferred 2 last time. Only one stuck and it split.  I was just curious what the intralipids were about. I thought you had tested positive for anti-phospholipid antibodies. I am not talking surrogacy- which is when someone else carries the baby. Donor eggs would mean I would cycle with another woman and one of her eggs would be transferred to my uterus and any extras would be frozen. Here's my clinic's site (they do a good job of explaining things):

09-02-2012 04:21 PM

Belly - thanks!  It is still amazing to me and I'm still in shock!!!


Deborah - w/ your last transfer did you guys transfer 2?  I know only one took and split, but i forget if you transferred only 1 or 2?  Not sure exactly what you want to know about the intralipids, but I can tell you my experience.  I had my natural killer cells checked from one of the 2 or 3 places in the US that I guess check the right natural killer cells ( i forget the exact name of the test, but i could look it up if you needed it).  Because I had the inc'd natural killer cells they say that it would affect our chances of getting pregnant b/c when we would do a transfer, and if the embryo would implant, my body in turn would think it was foreign and would attack and kill the embryo off.  My understanding is that by doing the intralipids so many days before our transfer it would turn my natural killer cells off and then the embyro would chance of making it.  Let me know if I can maybe help w/ any other questions for you.  So what is the story w/ maybe using a donor? Or do you mean a carrier of your eggs and your DH's swimmers?

Vireoes - glad things are moving right along for you.   Keep us posted and I hope you got all your errands done so you don't have that stress.

09-02-2012 11:35 AM

Thanks Belly- I think part of it is that I have a pretty big fear of twinning again and what that could mean for my mental and physical health. It's still possible even with an SET (as we know), but with transferring 2 she would be potentially raising my chance of twinning 30-40 percent.

09-02-2012 07:48 AM

Aura, glad you told her off a little.  I wish I was brave enough to do stuff like that...even it if was drug induced :)  So excited for your cycle.  This is going to be really weird to say, but you must be on my mind a lot because you were in my dream last night.  I was in New York and I guess you were showing me around and we got some really yummy lunch :)  I have been having really strange dreams for the last few days, I think it is the 10 weeks of sleep deprivation catching up with me! 


Blue, I LOVE LOVE LOVE seeing your ticker!


rcr, so sorry about your mom.  You are such a wonderful daughter to take on all the responsibility!  I hope she is doing better now.  Can't wait to hear your schedule!


Deborah, yay for getting started again.  I am glad you are at peace with your RE's direction.  Trust is so important with IF.  Excited to hear more.


Reading along and wishing everyone the best!

09-01-2012 12:56 PM

Blue- Can you talk to me a little about the intralipid stuff? Also, AFM- one thing I didn't mention here because it was a fly-by is that we may need a donor this year (something with which I'm oddly at peace- no swollen ovaries for me, LOL). We're testing all sorts of stuff for the boys and the RE said she's not comfortable with anything but an SET with me. I figure if she's that concerned, there's a reason, so she's the boss.

09-01-2012 01:06 AM

Sorry, just a quick update since I am busy with to hot weather and both our AC units having trouble.  I got one of the two finally fixed this afternoon, so we will get some good sleep again soon.


They have me set to do an unmedicated FET, My appointment this time was mostly getting paperwork and basic bloodwork (redone STD screaning) in order so that everything is set for the transfer.  I got back next week on CD10 for ultrasound and bloodwork to determine when to do the transfer.  I guess I go in every day or every other day from then till the transfer.  So I am trying to relax and eat well so that I am ready to go for the transfer.  Having the AC back on will be a big help in that regard.  I am also trying to finish up all necessary errands this week, so I can keep the transfer week as low key as possible. 

08-31-2012 02:17 PM

Deborah - glad to hear you are getting the ball rolling!!!


rcr - Sorry to hear about your mom!!!  Hope she is doing some better now.  That has to be hard w/ everything else you have going on in your life.  You are a good daughter.  I'm drawing a are an only child, is that right???  I sometimes feel like an only child b/c my brother is over-seas so most stuff w/ my parents falls on my shoulders which is fine but i just wish I was closer sometimes (distance wise -as in they need to live closer to me).  Did you get your schedule from the Dr yet?  I always liked it when i could get a schedule and start planing my life around it.  Hope you are well!!


Aura - sorry to hear about the nasty women at work.  Glad to hear your boss was on your side.  He/she probably wishes they could tell her off but can't.  LOL  I'm excited for your next cycle.  Glad that the lupron is going okay other than the normal hormonal issues.  Fingers crossed for you that this is it!!!!


Nieve - Welcome!!!! wave.gif I've been on that same protocol and didn't find it too bad so I hope you find the same!  Good luck to you and I hope your stay on this side is short and sweet.  Lots of great ladies w/ great support over here though.


Lila - sorry to hear that your DH didn't get the check he has been waiting for... so frustrating!!!!  Fingers crossed it will get here soon and surprise you!!!!


KeliG - how are you doing??????  I'm glad you and DH are pampering yourself some and that new grill sounds great!!!  Thinking of you and sending hugs!!hug2.gif

Vireoes - how did your appt w/ your RE go??  Hope it went well and fill us in when you get a chance.


Tera - how are you doing?  When is your beta?


Teresa - How are you??  Just thinking of you and hoping you are doing okay.  What is next for you????



I'm sure I miss some (sorry)!  I was just looking at this page and trying to remember on my own which is never good!!!  Hope everyone is well and fingers crossed for lots of BFP soon!!!  Okay back to lurking......hide.gif

08-31-2012 09:33 AM

Can you update me to say appointment on 8/30 completed- doing preliminary testing (there isn't really a perfect spot for that).

08-30-2012 06:28 AM

Thanks Aura. I have actually kinda gotten used to taking care of her, even when crisis happens. It has been a long time. Like I said, I don't think dieing is as soon as it sounds. Do you have a date for your FET? sorry if I missed it, I haven't been around much.


Nieve - welcome. I am doing my cycle just behind you - sometime in November or December.


AFM - I am going to email fisch tonight and ask him for my schedule, or at least the date that I have to be in vegas. I really like being able to move forward, so I might as well get my flight and hotel booked. plus, we need to figure out how long DH can take off so that we know how much vacation time he has left.

08-29-2012 05:33 PM

rcr, sorry to hear your mom wasn't doing well.  i can't imagine all you're going through right now.  is the hospice at least close to your home? just know we're here thinking about you!


nieve, welcome! sounds like a similar protocol to what i was on, and we had a great cycle last time.  can't wait to hear more about your cycle, you've joined a wonderful group of ladies.  Sorry your saline ultrasound was bad.  Sadly it probably won't be the only uncomfortable thing you do, but at least if there's a baby at the end it makes it all worth it.  What part of the country are you in?


afm, had my first real lupron episode yesterday.  there is a really bitchy woman at work who was just trying to pick a fight with me.  she kept making comments, and normally i ignore her, as we are both adults, and it's not professional to bicker in an office setting.  however yesterday she just kept digging, and digging, and eventually i snapped.  it wasn't anything major, but i finally just asked her to shut it. i left the room, and my boss actually pulled me aside to say that he saw what happened and appreciated the way i handled myself.  phew!  however my face was bright red (hot flash or anger?) and i was fuming.  after a while i realized it was irrational to get THIS angry, and that it was probably lupron and pms.  once i realize it i was able to calm down.  thanks lupron!

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