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09-02-2012 02:13 PM
MarineWife September thread: http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1362233/september-2012-rockstar-mamas
09-02-2012 12:55 PM
AnnieA
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Hey. I'm posting fro my tablet! It's slow but better than the nok. I don't really have anything to say. smile.gif

 

biglaugh.gifYou're too funny!

 

Baby_Cakes, I let Ava crawl around like that in stores. People either think it's funny or they're horrified. irked.gif

 

I know it won't last forever but the last two nights putting Ava to bed have been SO easy. She just takes her bottle, lays down beside me, maybe crawls around or flops around for a couple of minutes and then snuggles up and goes to sleep. So much better than the marathon wrestling matches we've been having. I wrote down everything I did the past two nights leading up to bedtime so we'll see if DH can replicate it tonight while I'm at work. One big thing I instituted was the TV gets turned off at 5 PM. Even if she wasn't watching it, DH would have it on watching the news or Jeopardy or whatever. I don't know if that has made the biggest difference or not but she's not so wound up when it's time to go to bed

09-01-2012 07:01 PM
MarineWife Hey. I'm posting fro my tablet! It's slow but better than the nok. I don't really have anything to say. smile.gif
09-01-2012 07:43 AM
Baby_Cakes
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Originally Posted by akind1 View Post

I meant about the blood tests, not the unprotected sex, LOL!

 

biglaugh.gif  Ooops!!  LOL! 

 

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Originally Posted by lyterae View Post

It's been a ridiculously long time and I've missed of all you! I'm hoping to be able to join in again. 

 

How the heck do I use the mothering forums on a tablet? I finally have the ability to have easier more frequent access again, but I can't figure out how to comment using the tablet. Any ideas so I can come hang out? :)

 

Heyyy!!  Hi woman!!  Welcome back!

Does tapatalk work on tablets?  That's how I post on my phone.  You just need to buy the app.

 

News - Finn learned how to go down the small steps in the kitchen (it's like one step down, turn, one step down) and into the breezeway.  It's a blessing and a curse!  It's a mess out there (litter box, construction debris) so now I just need to keep it clean.  But it's a blessing b/c now as long as I keep the basement door shut (that's a biiiiig flight of stairs down to a cement floor - I shudder thinking about a fall down those) I don't have to worry as much about keeping the kitchen gate shut. 

 

My life just also got 10,000 times easier.  Yesterday I got Finn out of the car and put him on the front lawn.  He crawled across, up the porch steps.  I opened the front door and he crawled into the house.  HA!  I don't need to carry him everywhere anymore!!  Hoooray!!

I did it at the post office too.  I had put him down to let him crawl around while I waited (it wasn't busy and it's a small remote PO box post office) and then once we were done, I just let him crawl out the front door, up the steps to the parking lot, and then picked him up to put him in the car.  LOL.  It must have been a sight, but whatever!

 

Going out for sushi tonight with the kids and chris.  My friend's birthday so we are celebrating!  My stomach still hasn't been quite right so I'm hoping I can actually eat it.  greensad.gif

09-01-2012 06:55 AM
MarineWife Hey, lyterae! I just got a tablet but haven't figured out how to use it yet. I'm so tech unsavvy. I guess you got it figured out, though.

I've been trying to figure out how to get Minecraft working for Ethan on something! He wants an iPod or an XBox 360 so he can play. There's no way that's going to happen anytime soon, poor guy. greensad.gif

Dylan fell asleep once in the highchair. That was funny.
08-31-2012 07:25 PM
onetwoten
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My kids both escalate crying when put in the crib, DS would eventually settle down and go to sleep, but he is  a blanket and thumb baby/kid and had a way to calm himself. Norah, just stands and cries. and gets louder, and louder. So, that doesn't work so well for us. She doesn't want to be patted on the back. She wants to be cuddled in the crook of your arm. Very picky child, this one!

 

She did actually doze off while eating today, and she NEVER falls asleep like that!  (as in eating solids) She and Gabe have been running/crawling in and out of the house all day, playing outside, in the water table, and just got wore out. LOVE IT! need this to happen more often :)

Oh yes, I mean if I just popped her in and walked away, then yes, she'd cry her head off. We take the time to settle her though, and usually stay in the room for 20 minutes or so before we start wandering in and out of the room in a couple minute spurts. I can't imagine doing the whole "Ok, it's bedtime, goodnight!" and just leaving the room for good until they screamed themselves to sleep :(

 

Yay on the dozing off! Tenley's done it once, and it was such a sight to watch! I love it!

 

lyterae-- good to see you again!!

08-31-2012 06:01 PM
lyterae

Yay Annie! It works! I have an Asus tablet, it has given me so much more freedom and ability to actually be online recreationally again. I love it.

08-31-2012 05:54 PM
AnnieA Yay Lyterae! When I post from my Nook, I have to hit the "Source" button in the top left of the reply box first then touch in the reply area. It turns the reply area green and brings up the keyboard. Took me FOREVER to figure that out. What tablet are you using?
08-31-2012 04:46 PM
lyterae

It's been a ridiculously long time and I've missed of all you! I'm hoping to be able to join in again. 

 

How the heck do I use the mothering forums on a tablet? I finally have the ability to have easier more frequent access again, but I can't figure out how to comment using the tablet. Any ideas so I can come hang out? :)

08-31-2012 09:19 AM
akind1

I meant about the blood tests, not the unprotected sex, LOL!

 

JJ: I can do pull off and roll over back to sleep - but it would be nice to stick a paci in there at times when I know she's not hungry, just seeking comfort.  She did take the paci today when I popped her off once she was asleep - she hasn't let me do that in a while.  And she sounds like she's doing really well. My kids both escalate crying when put in the crib, DS would eventually settle down and go to sleep, but he is  a blanket and thumb baby/kid and had a way to calm himself. Norah, just stands and cries. and gets louder, and louder. So, that doesn't work so well for us. She doesn't want to be patted on the back. She wants to be cuddled in the crook of your arm. Very picky child, this one!

 

She did actually doze off while eating today, and she NEVER falls asleep like that!  (as in eating solids) She and Gabe have been running/crawling in and out of the house all day, playing outside, in the water table, and just got wore out. LOVE IT! need this to happen more often :)

 

Ah, coffee, there is never enough.

08-31-2012 08:47 AM
Baby_Cakes
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Carrie, why not? haha, if you aren't concerned, then I wouldn't do it. Finn looks perfectly healthy to me!

 

Ha I just meant it wasn't worth the risk of getting pg right now.  I may be ambivalent about more kids down the road but I'm definitely NOT ambivalent about more kids right now (like in 9 months).  I'm just not ready or willing yet!!

 

JJ I have to say I'm impressed she babbles herself to sleep!  Listen to your gut.  You seem to be in a good place mentally so go with it!  

 

I need more coffee.  caffix.gif

08-31-2012 08:41 AM
MarineWife
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by then, there was no getting back up for ice cream

Love it! lol.gif

I'm feeling blah today. I wonder when dh will get home from work. It's a holiday weekend and they were in the field for 3 days and he had to go back to work last night and still wasn't home at 11:30 pm so maybe he'll get off a little early today.

I feel like I have way too much to do this weekend. The boys have a birthday party to go to Sunday. Ethan doesn't want to go because it's for a girl who's turning 5. Monday is the Improving Birth Rally in Wilmington. I need to make signs for that. We want to take Ryan and his GF out to dinner to celebrate his promotion. That will probably have to happen Sunday or Monday because those are the only days he has off.

I'm exhausted from the homeschool lunch yesterday. I like going to that. We have great conversations, although a lot of times everyone is talking at once. We end up there for several hours and I am just beat and spend the rest of the day feeling like I didn't get any down time.
08-31-2012 08:16 AM
onetwoten
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JJ: that was my biggest take a way from No Cry Sleep Solution - listen to your gut, if YOU feel things need to change, and it's not just outside pressure, then something needs to give. Otherwise, ignore the buzz and keep trucking.

 

DS was that way - sleeps better in his own space. He wiggles and squirms and plays a bit, but the more I interfere with it, the longer it takes him to go to sleep, he NEEDS that in order to sleep. He still wants us to lay with him until he's asleep, and that's ok.  Norah, OTOH, is the opposite, she really needs to be still. wiggling doesn't help her, and she really can't fall asleep on her own unless she's being worn or in a carseat. I need to re-read NCSS, because I need more sleep. I think I am going to try to re-introduce the paci. Much as I hate to, because she's given it up so easily, I just can't be her pacifier all night.

 

Bedtime last night took forever. Norah wouldn't settle at all for DH - I was putting Gabe to bed - so I went in there once Gabe was asleep, she's screaming, even though she's tired, and sometimes she will settle for DH. It took until after midnight before she was out, and by then, there was no getting back up for ice cream, or to work on cleaning. oh well. people coming Saturday for a bbq, must clean before then! *yawn* back on the coffee train this morning. I need it.

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. I in no way believe that babies "need" to sleep through the night, or that we're spoiling them by "letting" them wakeup, etc etc etc. There are moms I know who can and do get up every hour, and during the day they still have themselves to give to their families-- and so, no change needed. I just don't seem to be one of those, and if those choice is hate my child and not want to spend time with her during the day, or swallow my pride and do a bit of gentle sleep training... well... we're starting some sleep training! lol 

 

It is funny how I'm noticing changes in her behavior already. Even in the past 2 days, I've noticed that while she needs me in there to calm down and her relax and comfort her, she won't fall asleep while I'm rubbing her back or touching her. She will get really sleepy, but then won't close her eyes and fully settle until I step back and give her space. Even last night, DH went in to get her once when she woke up around 1030. He snuggled her for a bit, and then brought her out to the living room (always! *sigh* leave her in her room! No wonder she wakes up when she's brought into the bright loud living room). I nursed her, and then was rubbing her back etc-- nothing. So I went back into her room, told her I loved her and I would see her later, and put her down into bed. She rolled over, put her hands up to her head, which is how she falls asleep and then was OUT. DH had the most puzzled look on his face. I think he didn't believe me when I said she's getting better and learning how to go to sleep by herself, and that she falls asleep better on her own in her crib now. 

 

And the nicest part is that other than my one breakdown moment where she cried for 45 minutes (Which was NOT a sleep training attempt, just a moment of desperation), she hasn't cried for longer than 4 or 5 minutes alone. She's done a lot of fussing, and talking to herself, and definitely some times of tears, but no big kicking, screaming fits, we've almost always been in there with her until the very end, and then given her space to finish falling asleep. I'm feeling very comfortable with how it's going, and I know it would go faster if I just said "Ok, doors closed, you sleep now, no exceptions", but obviously that's not my style, so I'm ok giving it some extra time, and being a gentler process. 

 

Kat-- We tried to encourage the paci, and she wouldn't have it. She'll play with it and think it's funny, but won't be calmed by it. The pull off method that she talks about in the book seems to work, and that was our first step, with getting Ten to unlatch before falling asleep. I noticed after that started, that she'd let me unlatch during the night and roll over, and she'd fall back asleep rather than screaming for more boob. Little steps, but they make a difference! lol

 

 

 

We went to the library yesterday, and I'm trying to think of a fun 'activity' today. It doesn't necessarily need to be something out, but I'm trying to make sure we do one big 'thing' every day. We'll see. I'll wrack my brain. 

08-31-2012 05:02 AM
akind1

JJ: that was my biggest take a way from No Cry Sleep Solution - listen to your gut, if YOU feel things need to change, and it's not just outside pressure, then something needs to give. Otherwise, ignore the buzz and keep trucking.

 

DS was that way - sleeps better in his own space. He wiggles and squirms and plays a bit, but the more I interfere with it, the longer it takes him to go to sleep, he NEEDS that in order to sleep. He still wants us to lay with him until he's asleep, and that's ok.  Norah, OTOH, is the opposite, she really needs to be still. wiggling doesn't help her, and she really can't fall asleep on her own unless she's being worn or in a carseat. I need to re-read NCSS, because I need more sleep. I think I am going to try to re-introduce the paci. Much as I hate to, because she's given it up so easily, I just can't be her pacifier all night.

 

Carrie, why not? haha, if you aren't concerned, then I wouldn't do it. Finn looks perfectly healthy to me!

 

Bedtime last night took forever. Norah wouldn't settle at all for DH - I was putting Gabe to bed - so I went in there once Gabe was asleep, she's screaming, even though she's tired, and sometimes she will settle for DH. It took until after midnight before she was out, and by then, there was no getting back up for ice cream, or to work on cleaning. oh well. people coming Saturday for a bbq, must clean before then! *yawn* back on the coffee train this morning. I need it.

08-30-2012 06:25 PM
AnnieA

JJ, she may just be a kid that needs her space to go to sleep. Can't say I blame her! Bottom line is you are her mama and you know what's best for her.

 

OMG, you guys I have to tell you what DD picked up from DH. I've noticed recently that she laughs hysterically when she farts and she kind of does this thing where she waves her hand in front of her face almost like if she were joking that it smelled. Yesterday when she was in the tub, she strained, farted and then laughed like a nut. So I asked DH today if he's been farting in front her, waving his hand in front of his nose and laughing. He could not stop laughing when I asked him. He then admitted that he had. She's copying him! Good grief. I told him he needed to stop and he was like Ummmm, I can't stop farting and I said no, stop drawing attention to it. You don't need to laugh every time you fart. Geez.

08-30-2012 03:38 PM
onetwoten
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Someone posted a pic of a baby in a onesie that read, " all mom wanted was a backrub" I LMAO - too cute, but I couldn't put my own baby in it!

 

Norah is down to just nursing at night, and she wants to nurse all night long the last couple nights. ugh. I hope it passes. I'd be tempted to wean her altogether if I thought it would work - she wont accept DH as a substitue and I got no other tricks up my sleeve.

I joked with DH that we should buy that onesie. That's usually how dtd gets initiated in our house. I ask him to rub my back. lol. 

 

*hugs* that sucks. It's hard when you're tempted to do something, even -knowing- it probably won't help! Hopefully she gets through this quickly!

 
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I'm so fuzzy on all this.  I know some bm is better than none but idk what i'd do if I didn't have full supply to nurse on demand before age 1.  I think I would offer formula like my low supply mama friends.  I think we talked about this once, and didn't come to any sort of conclusion.  What is so magic about bm/ formula that solid food doesn't offer?  

i'm not judging at all and I think Norah is fine (man is she a good eater!) but Im just sort of putting it out there for discussion I suppose.

 

And also b/c Finn is back to nursing a ton lately w/ teething and is throwing a lot of food on the floor.  irked.gif

 

I got a slip from the dr for Finn to do a blood draw to test for anemia and lead.  Idk about it.  WWYD?

Yeah, I don't know what I'd do- formula or donated BM (at this stage- earlier on, I would have definitely found donated milk). But I agree with you Kat, that I'd try to fill up on a ton of healthy solids too, and as long as she was eating those, I'd be less worried. I think the concern is just that the solids a baby is eating before that age (in general population!!) aren't necessarily balanced or healthy. If you -can- ensure they're healthy choices, then less worry. 

 

Hmm. I -hate- hate hate blood draws, so I'd probably get out of it without a specific cause for concern. Same as above-- if you know he's getting a good balance and his nutrition is pretty good, then I wouldn't go looking for problems that aren't presenting. 

 

 

I get what you guys are saying about just accepting things, and that she's normal, etc etc. I -get- that. And I'm in no way saying that these methods are good for everyone, or that babies NEED to be steered towards better sleep. It goes back to what my doctor asks- not how much is she sleeping, but Are you ok with her sleep habits? I was, and was, and was... and now I'm not. Psychologically, I can't keep doing what we've been doing anymore. I can't continue hating my baby, and wanting to hide in the bathroom all day. Point blank. There's just... really no discussion after that, you know? I'm definitely open to tips and suggestions for making it more gentle, but whether her sleep needs to change isn't a maybe anymore, kwim? So even though it's not my first choice, I'm taking steps to do what I know needs to be done. 

 

Things have been okay today. This morning she fussed/talked for 35 minutes while I rubbed her back, alked to her, etc and picked her up off and on to give her hugs, and then I left the room to go to the bathroom. She cried and fussed, and then after like 3 minutes-- silence. I went in, and yup- she's sleeping! She slept for an hour and 20 minutes, and I didn't have to go in once!  And then we went out and spent some time at the library, came home, and put her back down for a nap, pretty much a repeat of the morning, where she fussed/talked while I rubbed back, etc. Then I came out here to prep dinner, and DH went and sat with her. She talked to herself for a few minutes, and then sleeeeeeeeep! She's been sleeping for about 45 minutes now :)   

 

I can do this. Small steps. Lots of cuddles during the day, nursing when she needs it, and giving her lots of time to put herself to sleep. I think that's the big thing. She'll fall asleep on her own as long as I give her the time to do so. I just normally get too frustrated that she hasn't fallen asleep yet. But, it's getting quicker, and I can see her cuddling into the bed to try to sleep. It's getting there!

 

 

We have a wedding on Sunday, get to get all dressed up and pretty. I can't wait!

08-30-2012 03:21 PM
MarineWife
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And believe it or not, teething sleep disturbance lasted A LONG time in our house. Now that all of her 1st molars are through, she's miraculously sleeping better. Nothing I did to change it.

Same here. Dylan didn't sleep well for months. Now that he has all 4 molars things seem to be better. He still flips and flops a lot when we first go to bed. Nothing I do settles him faster.
08-30-2012 02:36 PM
Baby_Cakes
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Why would you get those blood tests? Did you ask for them or did the doc just give them to you? Are you concerned about something? Unless I had something specific with my child that I was worried about, I wouldn't do that.
I've decided that Dylan looks like me. smile.gif

 

She said it was routine, and no I'm not worried about it.  I'm curious but does my curiousity warrant a painful/traumatic blood draw?  I already give him a multi and I don't think I would choose to supplement just iron if anything was low.  Hmm.  I might "lose" the slip.

 

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Yeah, check-in is 4 pm on the 14th and check-out is 10 am on the 18th. PM your email addresses and I'll forward the reservation confirmation to you. Even if you can't use it to check-in, it has a map of the area with the resort on it.

 

Ok gtk!  Thanks!  I'll pm you.  

 

Kat - um yes - no condoms = way nicer, but ahem, not worth it for me right yet!  LOL!  And yes, ITA with you on how well she eats.  Makes it seem like a non issue, seriously.

 

I'm missing something.... hmm...

08-30-2012 02:27 PM
akind1

We do whole milk also, but usually only around mealtimes when it will be consumed quickly - juice out for a few hours, or water, doesn't bother me, but milk after a little while just has an ick factor to me. Mostly she gets water.

 

DS is the same way, mostly water, but an occasional juice. He isn't very fond of milk unless it's chocolate, so he doesn't get it unless he asks. (milk. I don't keep chocolate milk in the house, bc he would not ever drink anything else if I did)

 

I should be able to skype from one of our phones. DH has a skype # I think.

 

We aren't in a high lead exposure sort of area, but if you live in an older home, it might not be a bad idea. Anemia . . . I tend to run sort of borderline, espeically when pregnant. But, we don't do wbv anyway, so the point is moot for us. LOL

08-30-2012 02:16 PM
AnnieA

Re: blood draw...yes, it's a typical thing now at the 1 yr visit. Some of the mamas in my MDC July 11 DDC on FB had some issues w/their pedis wanting to supplement because they were coming back slightly anemic at the 1 yr visit. I think unless you are very concerned about one or the other, I wouldn't do it. I had issues with anemia as a child so I let them test Ava, plus we don't need anything else affecting her transport of O2 but we have little to no risk for lead poisoning so didn't do that.

 

Skype: My DH will be there for part of the time and we can Skype off of his laptop. It has a webcam and we already have Skype on there that we do with my sister and nieces.

 

akind1: Do you guys do regular milk in your house? I'd be inclined to offer her regular whole milk instead of OJ but that's mostly because DSD 13 and DSS 11 had the juice monkey on their back for a long time because their mom started doing juice cut w/water in their sippy cups when they were babies. I still have an immediate irritated reaction when I hear a kid whine "juicey, juicey!"...grrrr!

 

JJ: Sleep. Yes, it is bad more often than it is good in my house. Has always been. I agree w/ Baby_Cakes though that once you reach a place of acceptance that she's a more challenging sleeper, it can get better. I was driving myself crazy and getting SO FRUSTRATED when I was looking at sleep training methods and thinking about nightweaning. I was getting pissed at Ava for waking up or having a tough time going down or only taking a 30 minute nap. And I finally had to get to point where I accepted that that is just who she is. I provide a darkened, cool, quiet place to sleep and if she wakes up and won't go back to sleep, she's not doing it to piss me off. And I had to take a hard look at myself too. I remember laying in my bed for a long time after my sister would fall asleep before I could fall asleep. And even now, I can toss and turn for almost an hour before I finally "get comfortable" and am able to go to sleep. I had to realize that Ava has probably inherited that from me. So we just do the best we can. On Sunday, I had DH drive around with her for 2 hours so she could get a good nap. It's not ideal but it's where we are right now. And believe it or not, teething sleep disturbance lasted A LONG time in our house. Now that all of her 1st molars are through, she's miraculously sleeping better. Nothing I did to change it. Hang in there mama.
 

08-30-2012 12:57 PM
MarineWife
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Re: blood draw: I think it's a normal thing they test for at age 1.

Is that a relatively new thing? I don't recall anyone even mentioning anemia or lead with any of my kids.

Does anyone have a smartphone that Skypes? Maybe we could do that. I don't have one, though.
08-30-2012 12:39 PM
akind1

Re: blood draw: I think it's a normal thing they test for at age 1. I don't have anything against blood draws. It's what they want to put into my perfectly healthy child I am opposed to, LOL.

 

She is one in about 6 weeks. She still is getting some breastmilk, that is whatever I'm making, which isn't much. IF she wasn't into solids so much, we would be supplementing with donor milk, or formula if it came to that. But since she seems to be getting plenty of solids and everything, I don't think that's necessary. I don't want to wean her completely yet, especially knowing sick season is approaching, but it would be lovely if she would do some longer night stretches.

 

JJ: Norah is not a fabulous sleeper. I wish I had the energy to work with her on other ways to fall asleep other than the boob and wearing. But I don't, and stick with what works. In a nutshell of what Carrie said, why fight it? is it worth it? Which is why she is in our bed still, and likely will be until I can get the kids' rooms switched around and she has a full size mattress. (then I intend to nurse her down, or cuddle her if she'll allow it, and roll away, like I do for naps) Honestly, we have gotten longer than a 3 hour stretch only a handful of times. Longest is 5-6, and that is a very rare thing. If I had to get out of bed everytime she woke, I would be a very, very, tired and cranky person. At least I am only somewhat tired and not usually cranky :) it's something.

 

Carrie: unprotected sex! woot! probably ok. DH very much prefers no condoms . . . and ahem . . . here we are. (partly my fault, bc I really thought my fertile period had come and gone, and we were therefore safe) oh well.

 

Dude, I want tons of pictures! and it's a shame I don't know how we could Skype so I could sort of be there :)

 

I need to figure out how to get DS to crash in his room for naps, because when Norah wakes up, she won't leave him alone (he normally sleeps on the couch for naps)

08-30-2012 12:38 PM
MarineWife Yeah, check-in is 4 pm on the 14th and check-out is 10 am on the 18th. PM your email addresses and I'll forward the reservation confirmation to you. Even if you can't use it to check-in, it has a map of the area with the resort on it.
08-30-2012 12:29 PM
MarineWife I need to ask my mom if I should forward the reservation confirmation to you guys so you can check in if you get there before me. I don't know if you all can do that. Check-in is 4:00, I think. I'll check for sure. I'm planning to get there as close to that time as possible. I'm thinking it will probably take us about 5 hours to get there so we won't have to leave super early to make it by then.

If you're going to do Jamestown, too, then we'll probably get that triangle ticket. I know it covers 7 days but it's cheaper to get that than to get a one day ticket for each place, if I remember correctly.

Why would you get those blood tests? Did you ask for them or did the doc just give them to you? Are you concerned about something? Unless I had something specific with my child that I was worried about, I wouldn't do that.

I've decided that Dylan looks like me. smile.gif
08-30-2012 10:01 AM
Baby_Cakes
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Norah gets bottles only on days I am away at work - otherwise, she drinks water or OJ for fluids during the day. And sometimes coconut milk. She is eating a ton, so I am not concerned at all about how much she's eating (it's only noon, and she's eaten a banana and a half, apple jacks, peanut butter toast, a few bites of pierogies, pretzel sticks, some fruit/veggie pouch . . . ) Where as Gabe has had toast, cheese, and a frozen go-gurt.

 

When does she turn 1 again?

I'm so fuzzy on all this.  I know some bm is better than none but idk what i'd do if I didn't have full supply to nurse on demand before age 1.  I think I would offer formula like my low supply mama friends.  I think we talked about this once, and didn't come to any sort of conclusion.  What is so magic about bm/ formula that solid food doesn't offer?  
i'm not judging at all and I think Norah is fine (man is she a good eater!) but Im just sort of putting it out there for discussion I suppose.

 

And also b/c Finn is back to nursing a ton lately w/ teething and is throwing a lot of food on the floor.  irked.gif

 

I got a slip from the dr for Finn to do a blood draw to test for anemia and lead.  Idk about it.  WWYD?

08-30-2012 09:47 AM
Baby_Cakes
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...we're just working really hard at helping her see that she can fall asleep in her bed without a ton of help. We're doing our bed routine, and then I nurse her, cuddle her for a few minutes until she's super relaxed, and then going into the crib for backrubs etc. Once she gets to sleeping 3ish hour stretches, I'm ok with starting to rock her to sleep again, and see if that works. It's not that I -don't- want to rock her to sleep, you know? Just that I want her to be able to go to sleep in other ways and help herself back to sleep. For all of this to stop being a fight at every turn. To get more than an hour of sleep at a time. Slow steps, but I think we're getting there, and without an hour of shrieking, which is nice. I feel like I'm finding a bit of middle ground. 

 

 

UGH.  I read your post in the middle of the night last night, and man, do I ever hear you.  I could have WRITTEN it when Nora was a baby.  
I also did the same thing, I really did.  I put her in the crib and just said, "I can't DO it anymore!  Cry then!" and left her for a little while.  Her crying escalated, I was crying, mad, angry, TIRED, and all I could think was "this is stupid!  Why am I fighting with her on this?!?"  I got it out of my system though, and then we went back to square one, and somehow i had renewed patience/strength to try something different.

 

What makes me ... idk...want to offer this tiny little shred of advice (which you can take with a grain of salt) is that she's young.  Very young.  Still such a baby.  She WILL, as she gets older, learn on her own to fall asleep without much help.  It will happen!!  She is a super high needs baby, one that seems to need a lot of touch, attention, and help getting her needs met.  She might continue to struggle with this sleep thing for a while.  Acceptance is going to be your saving grace.  Working with her, working with your needs, with your DH's needs -- of course this all matters -- and I know you've had good nights thrown in that give you guys such hope!  But remember that you can only encourage her to sleep, and there is no magic combination of anything that is going to work that you need to figure out.  You aren't doing anything wrong.  You are doing everything RIGHT by responding to her needs.  

 

I say that b/c I had so many doubts with my 1st high needs non sleeping ever baby.  Everyone said CIO.  I knew it wasn't an option, but I still felt guilty and somehow wrong (b/c the books and the experts said I was doing her a disservice by not "allowing her the sleep she needs").

 

Anyhow all this is just a huge hug and a perspective from someone who has gone thru this and totally survived.  You'll get thru it.  She will learn!  It may take awhile but it will happen.  I hope you can find middle ground and a way to juggle her non sleep with your sleep needs!  ((hugs))

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CD47, most likely, and 17 days of ewcf. Bleh!

 

 

YIKES!  That much ewcm would make me annoyed.  I hate it and how uncomfortable it is to begin with!!

 

We dtd w/o protection the other day.  Eeek!  I'm not nervous, b/c it was 1 day after AF and i was still dry.  But still!  EEk!  

 

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 The only time I get a backrub is if I've pretty much committed to sex already. Kinda sucks! Boys forget that mostly our bodies need to be primed really really well before jumping in- and a lot of this is in non-sexual things! 

 

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It seems as if they keep moving the 2nd trimester start date. It used to be 12 weeks, then 13 weeks, now it appears that now my 13th week is the last week of the first trimester, and 14 is the start of the second. Whatever. I am ready for that energy burst! (never happened with the other 2, but maybe I will get lucky this time!)

 

I can't believe you're so close to the 2nd tri!!!  Man it goes fast when it's someone else, lol!  

I hope you get that energy burst.  I think it's amazing what our bodies can do when they need to!

 

AFM - we survived the hellish stomach virus (HELL. HELL. HELL) but now nora seems to have the flu.  She stuck on the couch.  Finn seems unscathed so far so I hope he continues to be super baby and fight all these germs!  Go breastmilk!!  Ha!

 

Next week Nora starts full day school 3 days a week.  I'm super super bummed our last week of summer has been spent sick!!!  I had some loose plans to try to get out and about before the real crunch of school begins, but that won't happen and now I'm like, ugh.  School!  I'm excited for her though and just trying to not put my feelings on her or out in the universe b/c I realize they are selfish feelings.  I just wanted one more week with my kid.  redface.gif

 

I'm getting so excited about our trip!  I was looking at the websites and I just can't wait.  

I'm thinking either sunday or Monday chris and I will go to busch.  Sat we'll go to CW together b/c I know Lauri found some cool things we should all do.  Whichever day we don't go to busch we'll do jamestown.  I can't wait for Nora to see the ships!

What time can we check in on Friday?  What time are y'all thinking you'll arrive?  Do we need to know anything for check in?  MW - your $$ is en route.  DH had to put more money in paypal.  Sorry Im not on the ball with it!

08-30-2012 09:32 AM
akind1

Norah gets bottles only on days I am away at work - otherwise, she drinks water or OJ for fluids during the day. And sometimes coconut milk. She is eating a ton, so I am not concerned at all about how much she's eating (it's only noon, and she's eaten a banana and a half, apple jacks, peanut butter toast, a few bites of pierogies, pretzel sticks, some fruit/veggie pouch . . . ) Where as Gabe has had toast, cheese, and a frozen go-gurt.

 

She would likely nurse if I offered, but doesn't really seem interested until it's time to sleep.

 

We have the same issues with bed time and sexy time - but sometimes there is just no getting the kids to bed earlier. And no sexy time then either. DH knows my priorities are: kids sleeping, ice cream, and then sex. and the last often gets pushed until the next day. Talking about sex . . . our kids are still little, so we talk in front of them. Often in the car, when they are either sleeping or distracted with other things.

 

And yes, any conversation helps. it helps you feel a bit connected. Any chance of being able to do a date once in a while? even if just for lunch?

 

I am tired. when the ladies at work finally figured out I was pregnant, one asked if I was tired. I told her I've been tired for 3 years. She was like, oh, that's a silly question! duh.

08-30-2012 07:17 AM
MarineWife Haha! I've seen that onesie. But, yeah, doesn't fit our situation since I wanted a LOT more than a back rub those times. lol.gif

I'm not even really talking about the back rub thing with no expectations of sex. Talking about sex really turns me off. I don't know why. It just seems icky to me. Kind of like, I don't want to hear about it, just hurry up and do it. KWIM? So, rather than staying stupid or gross or perverted things to me during the day that are just going to annoy me, roll over in bed at night and just start things. And, if you aren't going to pay attention to me in other ways during the day, don't expect me to initiate things once we're in bed. I'm tired of having all the responsibility for anything actually happening.

I guess that's probably not completely fair to dh since that's how it's always been. Not cool for me to change the rules on him in the middle of the game. But, again, it's not like I haven't talked to him about it, too. He uses the kids as an excuse. Either they are always around during the day so he can't talk to me about it (so don't talk. sit next to me on the couch and put your arm around me). Also, talk to me about anything. It doesn't have to be sex (see above winky.gif). Normal, regular conversations go a long way. Or, he says they outlast him at night. Then make an effort to get them in bed and asleep before you are ready to crash.

Kat ~ I remember that about the trimesters. That's because 1/3 of 40 is a little more than 13.

Nora has stopped nursing during the day completely? Does she still get mama milk in a bottle or are you done with that, too?

JJ ~ Yeah, some babies just don't sleep well.
08-30-2012 05:28 AM
akind1

Someone posted a pic of a baby in a onesie that read, " all mom wanted was a backrub" I LMAO - too cute, but I couldn't put my own baby in it!

 

DH used to never initiate. Ever. And my attempts at subtle went over his head. Shoot, sometimes my obvious attempts (like foreplay) even led to sleep, not sex. Something changed though after Norah was born. I don't know if it's just some of the weight DH has been losing, or just a mind shift, but for the first time in 7 years, he's really been more aggressive about his needs. I love it. It's so nice to be unambiguous. I just hope it keeps up after baby #3 arrives! LOL

 

JJ: I think some babies just have a hard time with sleep. It's wired - some are great sleepers and some aren't. I wish there was an easy fix (other than the FB friends' fave: put baby in crib, shut door, and let cry) and that's not easy, nor is it a fix. Sooner or later, Ten will get the hang of it. I hope some of the roughness passes.

 

Norah is down to just nursing at night, and she wants to nurse all night long the last couple nights. ugh. I hope it passes. I'd be tempted to wean her altogether if I thought it would work - she wont accept DH as a substitue and I got no other tricks up my sleeve.

 

It seems as if they keep moving the 2nd trimester start date. It used to be 12 weeks, then 13 weeks, now it appears that now my 13th week is the last week of the first trimester, and 14 is the start of the second. Whatever. I am ready for that energy burst! (never happened with the other 2, but maybe I will get lucky this time!)

08-29-2012 08:59 PM
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JJ ~ hug.gif I know you say you didn't have any indication of the teeth coming but could all the sleep issues be related? Dylan got his 4th molar on the 25th. That one surprised me. He's got 12 teeth now!
I have told him that I would appreciate a little attention. I have said that ignoring me all week, sitting across the room and not even acknowledging my presence and then giving me a card or saying, "If you'd touch me, maybe I wouldn't touch myself," isn't going to work. Pay attention to me. Sit next to me. Hold my hand. Put your arm around. Touch me. Kiss me. He doesn't need to ask or do any talking about it at all. If he would start touching me while we are in bed, I'd be all over it. 

The thing is the sleep thing has been constant- like if it were due to the teeth, I would have thought it would ebb and flow- but really she's never had a significant period of 'good sleep', you know? She's had a night here and there that I've noticed -are- worse, and I'm sure it's due to teeth, and that's ok, but it doesn't help the night to night sleep, you know? Like I expect bad nights here and there, but not all of them! lol

 

I get that. I had a bit of a flip out at DH the other night, that I wish he would do loving things sometimes when he didn't expect sex in return. Like, I'd be in the mood more often if he would rub my back or my feet, or cuddle with me, etc etc, at times when there wasn't the expectation of something happening afterwards. The only time I get a backrub is if I've pretty much committed to sex already. Kinda sucks! Boys forget that mostly our bodies need to be primed really really well before jumping in- and a lot of this is in non-sexual things! 

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