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02-28-2013 10:55 AM
revolting

Psst... I couldn't wait another day. Here's the March thread:
http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1375604/pagan-families-marching-into-spring

02-25-2013 01:40 PM
glassesgirlnj

Yeah, if my daughter goes through a princess phase, I plan to point out that Princess Leia and Wonder Woman are both princesses too! And that real-life princesses spend a lot of time doing charity work and "giving back" to society.

 

Revolting, I will keep thinking of you. Every week you're pregnant improves your chances, right?

I appreciate your condolences. TBH, that was not a good time in my life to have a baby - when I got pregnant again in 2011, my spouse and I were closer, more financially stable, and had MUCH better health insurance...

My midwives (for the second pregnancy) were okay with my going to FSG, as long as I stayed in the shade and didn't lift anything heavy (I had a marginal placenta previa at the time - thankfully it moved up later on). I know you have mixed feelings about your current practice, revolting, but have you discussed your festival plans with them?

I am not Haitian-American, but my godparents are. Our societe is pretty ethnically diverse. (Some other Vodou houses reserve initiation for Haitians only, or people of African heritage only; that's just the way they prefer to run things - again, there is no "Pope of Vodou"...)

 

Amlikam and Maiasaura, thanks for the camping tips! You're both making this seem a lot more feasible, so I really appreciate it. :)

Maia, yikes on the PSG drama fest. I don't plan to use physical punishment with Annamaria - but I also understand that children with needs like ADHD, might require discipline techniques that seem "less gentle" if one doesn't know the reasons behind them. (And who knows what my daughter might be like when she's 7 years old?)

 

In other news, we found a drop-in playspace this weekend that I really liked! It's at our former YWCA, which renamed itself "The Connection" to be more inclusive. :D They offer yoga and healthy cooking classes, too... I'm going to see if we qualify for a moderate-income discount on membership.

And A had another great checkup today - she's now 90th percentile on height, 70th on weight, and hitting all milestones. After Lent is over, I want to make an offering to her spirits for her ongoing development and good health...

02-24-2013 07:48 AM
Maiasaura
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Originally Posted by vydalea View Post

I am reading along mamas but quite full of other's negative energy this week. This community art sho, while awesome, has me working with a close friend who is just buzzing with negativity right now. I seem to be really sensitive to it, maybe because we are so close? I did some energy/chakra protection work and have been trying to drink loads of water and wah hands, take showers, etc, to wash away the energy. I haven't been affected like this in years! Any insight?

Amlikam...perfect idea with the little potty! Thanks for sharing that! We have 2 upcoming festivals with only porta potty access and a *nearly* 2 yo.

Revolting...candle lit, mama. Thinking of you.

Yes, Jesus and alllll the other deities love you. I found out my step mom sings jesus loves you to put z to sleep for nap... eyeroll... where is the line? We discuss this often here, i think. Its just a song, SO FAR. As for Disney Princess...i need a whole new thread and a VERY large soapbox. Haha.

 

I dunno, vydalea, about the negative energy....sounds like you are doing everything you can. Have you done a mirror spell? I "erect" a concave mirror all around me...remember that little kid rhyme (which I think is really a spell winky.gif ) "I'm rubber, you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you".

 

That was me, with the potty smile.gif

 

I'm so glad I'm originally from up north where (IME) people aren't nutty with religion. I've been in the south since 1988 and it STILL galls me how "In Yo' Face" people are with it.

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Originally Posted by revolting View PostMaia, you are making me nervous about going to PSG pregnant! I'm thinking about going this year just for the weekend, just me, no kids. I live pretty close...close enough I could leave after my partner got home from work on Friday and still arrive before the gates closed. I've never left them for a whole weekend though...my husband has never even had them solo overnight. And I've never been to a big Pagan gathering...and going by myself makes me a little nervous, too. Are you going this year?

 

Oh, man, I wasn't trying to make you nervous! My point was that chick was being uber irresponsible. She was basically refusing to take care of herself and pshaw-ing every suggestion that she needed to. As long as you drink tons of water, you'll be fine. They have water and Gatorade stations every here and there, for free. Just drink up every time you see one, and bring your own refillable bottle. Bring one that has a wide mouth where the top screws on, so you can add ice.

 

No, I'm not going. I haven't been since 2009. DS was 7 that year, and he has got extreme behavioral issues that seem to be getting worse as he gets older (ADHD). That year, we camped with people that we hadn't met in person before, but for weeks ahead were getting to know one another online. DS had some pretty bad behavior, I did, too, and some of the people we camped with took it upon themselves to decide I am an abusive mom, and called DSS in my home state, from THEIR home state, on the way home AFTER the gathering. Two days after I got home, didn't even start to unpack yet, got a visit from the social services lady yikes2.gif After a two hour visit, she said "I see nothing but a loving home here"-- which, of course she did! I spank sometimes. So deal with it. But the people who called, they don't, and so saw my behavior as over the top. Also, they are a triad parent dynamic and had DSS called on THEM the prior year-- I have a hard time believing anyone who goes through that would ever, ever call on someone else, but whatever eyesroll.gif AND, nobody said a word to me whilst there. I had no suspicions whatever that people were concerned. And there are a number of channels to go through AT PSg before one goes to the last extreme and calls authorities. Nobody had bothered. So, needless to say, I am too nervous to go there for a good while. I can't trust ds's behavior and I don't want to micro-manage. I want to go to some workshops and rituals alone, which I could do much easier when he was a little one than I can now. I really miss it, though greensad.gif
Don't worry, mama. You will be fine. I went my first time alone and pregnant, and I came from 11-1/2 hours away (before stops)! Going somewhere I had never been. It's all good.

 

02-23-2013 04:53 PM
revolting

Thanks everyone for the support. The tests didn't find much, so now there's nothing to do but pray.

 

Sorry for your loss, glasses! So interesting that that's kind of normal amoung Vodouisants. Are you Hatian-American?

 

Maia, you are making me nervous about going to PSG pregnant! I'm thinking about going this year just for the weekend, just me, no kids. I live pretty close...close enough I could leave after my partner got home from work on Friday and still arrive before the gates closed. I've never left them for a whole weekend though...my husband has never even had them solo overnight. And I've never been to a big Pagan gathering...and going by myself makes me a little nervous, too. Are you going this year?

 

Vy: Instead of taking showers, have you thought about bathing with sea salt?  On Disney princesses, I think some are better than others. I don't mind Tiana from the Princess and the Frog. I know it's Pixar, but I really liked Merida from Brave, which is also a princess movie.

02-23-2013 03:16 PM
vydalea I am reading along mamas but quite full of other's negative energy this week. This community art sho, while awesome, has me working with a close friend who is just buzzing with negativity right now. I seem to be really sensitive to it, maybe because we are so close? I did some energy/chakra protection work and have been trying to drink loads of water and wah hands, take showers, etc, to wash away the energy. I haven't been affected like this in years! Any insight?

Amlikam...perfect idea with the little potty! Thanks for sharing that! We have 2 upcoming festivals with only porta potty access and a *nearly* 2 yo.

Revolting...candle lit, mama. Thinking of you.

Yes, Jesus and alllll the other deities love you. I found out my step mom sings jesus loves you to put z to sleep for nap... eyeroll... where is the line? We discuss this often here, i think. Its just a song, SO FAR. As for Disney Princess...i need a whole new thread and a VERY large soapbox. Haha.
02-22-2013 04:09 PM
Maiasaura
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Originally Posted by glassesgirlnj View PostFSG has cabins with twin beds that can be pushed together in different ways.

 

Or, you could put two beds together, make them up like a king, and sleep sideways on them, so the crack between mattresses isn't longways, but sideways. Or, you could put the mattresses on the floor, but they'd probably slide apart easier that way.

 

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Originally Posted by amlikam View PostAll this talk of gatherings has me sad since we wont be going to one of our favorites this year because it is right when I am due!

 

When are you due?

 

One year at PSG, I remember this young woman that was SO pregnant, everyone thought she was gonna pop there. She was like within a week of her due date on either side. And she was severely dehydrated-- nearly fell out on a couple of occasions. Everyone was following her around with water. She was seriously being so irresponsible it was pissing people off. There's a ton of midwives at PSG, too. Everybody was mad at that chick! PSG in midsummer can top 105* in the shade, though that's not usual. Ye Gods.

02-22-2013 09:04 AM
amlikam

All this talk of gatherings has me sad since we wont be going to one of our favorites this year because it is right when I am due! It comes down to $$ really bc I don't want to pay to go with the chance I might go into labor there. The place would be a hoot to give birth at (and like 20 midwives attend it and there are MDs there) but the otherside is all the $$ I am dishing out for a midwife.... ugh. DH was thinking about maybe getting a weekend pass for him and DD to go up for some of the big community rituals, but feels funny since it is more my thing than his.... he just likes to come along with me :-)

 

I will want full reports after the season starts  Sheepish.gif   lurk.gif I will have to live through others... I will do one gathering this summer if it actually happens and isn't too far away but not until August.

02-22-2013 08:51 AM
amlikam
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Originally Posted by glassesgirlnj View Post

Thanks for getting back to me, Maiasaura! PSG sounds a lot like a larger version of Free Spirit Gathering, which is the one we attend in MD.

Good advice about managing expectations of how many rits and workshops we'll be able to attend, let alone lead. (For contrast, pre-child, we had one FSG where we co-led SIX workshops AND one ritual... that sure ain't happening no more.)  I seriously felt like I had to back down a bit when we did our first year as a family. I do like when there is stuff we can do as a family, but it is so nice to let my hair down!!! :-)

 

FSG has cabins with twin beds that can be pushed together in different ways. At home, we mostly cosleep on a kingsize futon on the floor. I wonder if they make kingsize air mattresses, and if we could put one atop two twin beds... then I'd worry about A falling out, though, so maybe we'd need bedrails too... well, we've got a few months to figure this out! :)  We took the mattresses off the bed and made a bigger bed for us all to share on the floor one year. Also prehaps you could get a "egg crate" topper? As for falling out, could the kiddos be in the middle for the week? ugh not the best solution but perhaps could work?

 

 

 

02-22-2013 08:36 AM
glassesgirlnj

Thanks for getting back to me, Maiasaura! PSG sounds a lot like a larger version of Free Spirit Gathering, which is the one we attend in MD.

Good advice about managing expectations of how many rits and workshops we'll be able to attend, let alone lead. (For contrast, pre-child, we had one FSG where we co-led SIX workshops AND one ritual... that sure ain't happening no more.)

FSG has cabins with twin beds that can be pushed together in different ways. At home, we mostly cosleep on a kingsize futon on the floor. I wonder if they make kingsize air mattresses, and if we could put one atop two twin beds... then I'd worry about A falling out, though, so maybe we'd need bedrails too... well, we've got a few months to figure this out! :)

I'm sorry, those are sugar syrups (Monin) I was talking about. The spirit we gave them to would accept nothing less! ;) They make sugarfree versions, but I think those have Splenda in them.

Some of our loa tables (the ones with the really delicate objects) will move into locked armoires or closets for a couple of years. (FTR, a lot of Haitian-American Vodouisants do this anyway -- they don't want their landlord/Bible-thumping relative/rival mambo/whatever seeing their Vodou stuff and trying to "fix" or mess with it.)

 

Revolting, I'm keeping you in my thoughts! In my experience, with test results, if it's "bad", they call you right away -- the fact you haven't heard anything is probably a GOOD sign. But I appreciate your wanting the closure (I've had a loss myself).

02-22-2013 07:08 AM
amlikam
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Originally Posted by revolting View Post

I was supposed to get my results from a bunch of labwork I had done to see if we could find a health issue causing all the pregnancy losses, but my healthcare provider failed to call. They've been super flaky in general. Anyway, if anyone would light a candle for good results, I'd appreciate it. I'm a mess with worry!

So fustrating.... I have had a few souls come and go far too quickly, I couldn't imagine my provider taking forever to tell me results on such important tests!!!

 

Oh I am envisioning good results and an earth side dweller from your womb sometime soon for you!!! I see a belly growing and knowing lots of kicks and jobs I will light my candle for silent mamas waiting to steward life into this world like you, that I have on my altar later tonight when I get home.

 

 

 

dust.gif                   candle.gif                       praying.gif                     stillheart.gif             rainbow1284.gif

02-22-2013 05:50 AM
Maiasaura

Lighting one in my mind, revolting. Just burnt the sh*t out of my hand on bacon grease so no no no fire for me. Sending sticky baby vibes for you.

02-21-2013 10:02 PM
revolting I was supposed to get my results from a bunch of labwork I had done to see if we could find a health issue causing all the pregnancy losses, but my healthcare provider failed to call. They've been super flaky in general. Anyway, if anyone would light a candle for good results, I'd appreciate it. I'm a mess with worry!
02-20-2013 10:38 AM
Maiasaura

Here is what my friend said:

 

"Naw, I am more a devotee of Vishnu and Lakshmi myself...ya know <my son's> middle name is Vishnu...Vishnu has always been a favorite God of mine. Lakshmi more recently. I do LOVE the nayma Shiva chant....and I have a painting I did and a tapestry I got in India of Lord Shiva..but I don't really do His festivals, normally."

 

HTH!

02-20-2013 08:22 AM
Maiasaura
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Originally Posted by Wolfcat View PostHeartland is a five-day, tent-camping event with guests and bonfires. It's also clothing optional. I'm worried about taking the kids because they are both pretty high maintenance. Dd is not yet potty trained, so diapers and pota-johns are less then thrilling. Ds is on the autism spectrum. I use this opportunity to network with big-nosed pagans (the guest speakers & performers) and having the kids will definitely put a damper on it. Plus we kinda use this event as our big getting away from the kids thing.

 

Where I get all my experience camping with littles is at PSG, the annual Pagan Spirit Gathering. It's 8 days and also clothing-optional. My ds has very, very severe ADHD and it was a challenge when he was little, but there was no way I was not going to go, so, like we all do in any parenting situation...I winged it winky.gif And, I am a single mom, so, well, creativity is paramount. And also practicing acceptance. Instead of wishing I could go to the 300 workshops and rituals, and resenting my boy and my situation, I was happy to get to ONE ritual and ONE workshop the whole week. Which, with 900 other people there, wasn't all that hard to do.

When he was in-arms, I wore him in a sling or backpack.

When he was a little older, those, plus a jogging stroller (PSG didn't have anything paved).

People are pretty respectful as to clothing or not-clothing. It isn't this big sex-fest because people could be nude, or semi-nude. I'm sure there's plenty of sex going on, but it's something that I wasn't looking for or involved in, so I never saw any in the ten years I went.

I had ds on a leash and harness till he was 3 anyway, because he had this lovely habit of running off into traffic and thinking it was funny. And I could NOT catch him. So at PSG, in order to set up my tent, I just extrapolated that out and got a screw-in dog stake and a 20-foot lead, and hooked THAT onto ds's leash. He had a ball and a wide range to play and I knew I was not going to find him face-down in the pond. People thought it was hilarious, and I didn't catch any shit for it, and if I had, I would have gotten really cocky and said "YOU set up my tent, then, or YOU watch him while I do" lol.gif

 

Dipes camping are not any more of a deal than they are at home. Unless you do cloth, and I have seen people do that camping-- I was no way going to be one of them. I used 'sposies. Oh, for potty-- this is brilliant, I think! At Sam's Club one year (bet you could find such on Freecycle) I got a 2-1/2 gallon bucket, half the size of those big ones, that originally held dishwasher powder soap. A kid's potty ring with the foam, those comfy ones? For the toilet? Fits EXACTLY on this bucket. We keep it in the tent, in a corner, behind the Rubbermaid tubs of clothing and stuff, for night time, and we empty it out every morning. Because of potty training, sure, but because *I* am not getting up in the night to find a bathroom lol.gif Nor could I, as a single mom, leave my ds alone in the tent for that long.

 

But, it's easy. It's more about wrapping your mind around a different way. But if you want to keep it sans kids, I dunno...grandparents?

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by glassesgirlnj View PostMainly, I was just interested in whether any of the Pagans here who work with Shiva were doing anything for his feast day (I think it's March 10?), and if so, what.

 

(That would be cabins with hot water and electricity, but dealing with diapers, sleeping arrangements, etc. seems daunting...)

 

Maiasaura, I'm glad you enjoyed hearing more about Vodou! :) There's another thread going on in the Spirituality forum, something like "Pagan with a Catholic DH" - that's your situation, right?

 

Jasmine violet syrup is just those flavored syrups like you can buy at ritzy coffee shops

 

Our challenge now is babyproofing our various tables - even though Annamaria has mostly just stared in wonder at them so far, that toddler impulse could strike at any second. I'd be interested in getting tips from other parents of toddlers who've kept altar-ish setups in their home.

 

 

I can ask my friend if she'll be doing anything. I don't think she does, but I can ask.

 

Sleeping arrangements-- I co-slept with ds till he was like 7yo. In a cabin I would suffer the tiny bed and put him near the wall with me on the outside, OR, him on the outside and bring the net-thingy that you put to keep a child from falling out. In the tent, I had a queen air mattress and made it up just like a bed. Opened the sleeping bag for a comfy bottom layer, and then brought regular sheets and blankets. I used those sheet garters to keep the bottom sheet on. When ds was really little, this is where I discovered what those turtleneck long sleeved onesies were for! He'd get all warm and toasty on his legs, but his arms he kept out and his neck was nice and warm, with the long sleeves and turtle neck.

 

Those syrups sound amazing. Please tell me they aren't made of sweetener! greensad.gif I only use stevia and erythritol.

 

I have a "stealth altar" on my stove back. It looks like seasonal decorations. Toddler altars-- you have to keep yours WAY UP HIGH for a couple years now! But have a "nature table" where she can play with what's on there. Sort of a kid-altar. This gets her used to the idea, too.

 

Yes, that is my situation-- dh is Catholic. We get along fine. I was brought up Episcopalian, so, Catholic-lite winky.gif and he has a whole lot more Pagan tendencies than I would ever tell him about lol.gif

02-20-2013 07:51 AM
glassesgirlnj

Wolfcat, I think you have a good point about people being cautious about identifiying as "Hindu". (Wasn't that word originally invented by the British Raj anyway, since they couldn't be bothered to keep track of all the different spiritual paths in India?)

That being said, there are several Afro-Caribbean trads in which "Hindu" spirits are served along with the others (mostly the areas which were colonies of Britain, or which had a lot of South Asian immigrants at some point). Guyana, Jamaica and Trinidad are three places I'm thinking of where this happens - apparently, in Trinidad, it's not uncommon for Lakshmi, Oshun and St. Philomena to all show up at the same ceremony!

Mainly, I was just interested in whether any of the Pagans here who work with Shiva were doing anything for his feast day (I think it's March 10?), and if so, what.

 

I'm really glad your husband is getting the medical care he needs. I can also sympathize about being nervous re: bringing young kids to a camping event. We're trying to decide whether to bring Annamaria to Free Spirit Gathering this year. (That would be cabins with hot water and electricity, but dealing with diapers, sleeping arrangements, etc. seems daunting...)

 

Maiasaura, I'm glad you enjoyed hearing more about Vodou! :) There's another thread going on in the Spirituality forum, something like "Pagan with a Catholic DH" - that's your situation, right? I posted more about Vodou, and some of its Catholic influences, over there.

Jasmine violet syrup is just those flavored syrups like you can buy at ritzy coffee shops - we mixed the jasmine and violet flavors together. I think you could definitely add them to tea! And we put the offerings on a "Tableau loa" we have for this spirit (Vodouisants don't call them "altars" - just like we don't "worship" the spirits, we "serve" them.) This particular table is full of pink and sparkly things...

Our challenge now is babyproofing our various tables - even though Annamaria has mostly just stared in wonder at them so far, that toddler impulse could strike at any second. I'd be interested in getting tips from other parents of toddlers who've kept altar-ish setups in their home.

 

WRT a "Jesus Loves Me" balloon, I would probably take it, but if I had a Sharpie with me, I'd be tempted to add (in smaller print) "And Legba Does Too" ...

02-20-2013 03:32 AM
amlikam Whe did rites of spring with dd when she was 3 and while she was potty trained we brought a little potty bc I hate porta pottys with little ones.
I can guess the type of atmosphere and imagine it will be challenging. It was hard for DH and I- we only had one child. But both of us wanted to go and do the things we like to do but had to navigate the little. Eventually at the advice of one of my mentors we were able to settle into the experience but it was harder. We will do it again when the new baby arrives (baby is due right when it is happening).
I guess you might want to talk to each other about how you can support each other and what you might want most of the week and see if time can be made to support that. I know rites of spring offers some child care, does heartland have something like that? Or do you know families who will do a co-op with you?
That's a big choice and I hope you feel supported in the process. Good luck and keep us posted.
02-19-2013 09:39 PM
Wolfcat Hypothyroidism has lots of "symptoms", mostly low energy and obesity. It can also result in various organ issues, though I'm not familiar enough with it to list any.

Heartland is a five-day, tent-camping event with guests and bonfires. It's also clothing optional. I'm worried about taking the kids because they are both pretty high maintenance. Dd is not yet potty trained, so diapers and pota-johns are less then thrilling. Ds is on the autism spectrum. I use this opportunity to network with big-nosed pagans (the guest speakers & performers) and having the kids will definitely put a damper on it. Plus we kinda use this event as our big getting away from the kids thing.
02-19-2013 02:49 PM
DaughterOfKali

Sounds like some good reading.

02-18-2013 02:54 PM
Maiasaura
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Originally Posted by greenwitchymama View Post

Speaking of Jesus... has anyone here read the Maeve Chronicles? I recently finished The Passion of Mary Magdalene and it was EXCELLENT. I wish it was non-fiction, seriously. It was so incredible and I really delight in any paganized version of the life of Jesus. ;)

 

No, but thanks for the book recs! I love Mary. And I will have to read those!

02-18-2013 01:11 PM
greenwitchymama

Speaking of Jesus... has anyone here read the Maeve Chronicles? I recently finished The Passion of Mary Magdalene and it was EXCELLENT. I wish it was non-fiction, seriously. It was so incredible and I really delight in any paganized version of the life of Jesus. ;)

02-18-2013 08:20 AM
amlikam
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Originally Posted by Wolfcat View Post

On a positive note, dh got his results back from the Dr. He has hypothyroidism and will be starting medication for that. We're hoping this takes care of a lot of the issues he's had for most of his adult life. I felt so much better once I regulated with meds, it took a few months to really notice a difference though (I was really really out of whack, the Dr said she's never seen levels like mine). I do energy work, body work, ritual, crystals, sound and diet to help support it, but from my understanding (and many healers I know) it is the one thing that is best supported with meds.

Dh's parents want him to do their handfasting at Heartland this year. So, it looks like we'll be taking the kids with us. It's sooner than we had anticipated, but perhaps this is best. I'm actually a little afraid to take them; it's an overwhelming prospect for me. This is forcing me to go out on that limb and maybe it won't be that bad... I say "build the intention of good!" Traveling with little one's can be hard, but I try my best to always create success for them (make time before an event where they can run around and burn off some energy, bring special toys, be ok with them getting dirty....) :-) good luck!!!

Oh! I got to interview Kerr Cuchulain, Wendy Rule, and MR Sellars (author of the Rowan Gant series) on the podcadt over the last few months. SCORE!  That is AWASOME! WOW!

 

 

Ahhh the Jesus loves me balloon... We've seen them out here too... I'm ok with Jesus loving me, doesn't mean I have the same relationship back... ROTFLMAO.gif but I do hat ethe way they try to grab all your info like phone # and such... I just want your balloon, not the phone calls.... thank you.....

 

Ok, I haven't been fully interactive and just stopping in. Sending blessings to all.

02-18-2013 06:00 AM
Maiasaura
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Originally Posted by glassesgirlnj View PostValentine's Day is one of the feast days for the "ti-miste" we work with (that's Kreyol for "little mystery" - it's not really accurate to call them "Vodou fairies", but that's a shorthand way of explaining to most people from North America.)  

So, she got a nice cup of jasmine violet syrup, and a bowl of candy, served on Royal Doulton china.  (I bought the Royal Doulton place setting on Craigslist for $10... orngbiggrin.gif

 

 

And her favorite cashier at the grocery store gave her a free Valentine balloon. (Disney Princesses, grrr... but how can you criticize a free balloon?) 

 

For Lent this year, I've given up cheese - I eat entirely too much of it the rest of the year.  Also, Vodouisants don't do any "work" for themselves or others during Lent, and don't even make any offerings to their spirits during Holy Week. 

 

Does anyone here work with Lord Shiva? He has a couple of festivals coming up soon, right?  (DaughterofKali was the first person I thought of, but there might be others.) 

 

It is so interesting hearing about your spiritual path! Thank you for sharing. What is jasmine violet syrup for? It sounds like it would be awesome as a tea. What kind of candy? Do you put your offering outdoors?

 

Free balloons....yes and no. As you know, I live in the south, and at the Western NC State Fair there is a booth that proselytizes to children, and they give out free balloons to the kids with "Jesus Loves Me" on them in sharpie irked.gif Free balloon, indeed....that was a hard one to say "Yes" to, when ds was like 4. I did NOT want to walk around the dang fair with that!

 

I can ask my friend about Shiva for you. She follows Hindu gods (but is white American) and also Egyptian ones, and I think Mexican ones. What question do you want me to pass on? Just "Are there festivals coming up"?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Wolfcat View PostOn a positive note, dh got his results back from the Dr. He has hypothyroidism and will be starting medication for that. We're hoping this takes care of a lot of the issues he's had for most of his adult life.

Dh's parents want him to do their handfasting at Heartland this year. So, it looks like we'll be taking the kids with us. It's sooner than we had anticipated, but perhaps this is best. I'm actually a little afraid to take them; it's an overwhelming prospect for me. This is forcing me to go out on that limb and maybe it won't be that bad...
 

 

What are the issues that happen with hypothyroidism, if I may ask? What kind of medication do they give for that? Are there any other modifications (Diet, etc) that can be done, too?

 

Dh's parents are Pagan? How cool is that. Am I understanding this is a camping event and you are nervous to take the kids because it's camping? I have a TON of camping-with-kid experience. I'll be happy to help and answer questions and ease your mind!

 

Going to see M on our handfasting anniversary, March 7th luxlove.gifenergy.gif I can't believe it's been 3 years.

02-17-2013 08:42 PM
Wolfcat glassesgirlnj: I follow Kali and dh follows Ganesha. However, we cannot be Hindu as Hindus must be born into Hinduism (there is some debate about this, but we don't feel it is our place to enter that debate). As such, we don't try to follow the Hindu practices, but honor our chosen gods in our own ways.

On a positive note, dh got his results back from the Dr. He has hypothyroidism and will be starting medication for that. We're hoping this takes care of a lot of the issues he's had for most of his adult life.

Dh's parents want him to do their handfasting at Heartland this year. So, it looks like we'll be taking the kids with us. It's sooner than we had anticipated, but perhaps this is best. I'm actually a little afraid to take them; it's an overwhelming prospect for me. This is forcing me to go out on that limb and maybe it won't be that bad...

Oh! I got to interview Kerr Cuchulain, Wendy Rule, and MR Sellars (author of the Rowan Gant series) on the podcadt over the last few months. SCORE!
02-17-2013 07:19 PM
glassesgirlnj

Valentine's Day is one of the feast days for the "ti-miste" we work with (that's Kreyol for "little mystery" - it's not really accurate to call them "Vodou fairies", but that's a shorthand way of explaining to most people from North America.)  

So, she got a nice cup of jasmine violet syrup, and a bowl of candy, served on Royal Doulton china.  (I bought the Royal Doulton place setting on Craigslist for $10... orngbiggrin.gif

 

My spouse and I had gone out two weeks earlier, because getting a sitter for Valentine's Day itself (or even the weekend afterwards) would have been insane.  So, on Feb 2, we got to play Bourgeois Bohemian DINKs for the evening orngbiggrin.gif, eating Indian food and hearing John Waters speak in a nearby college town.  It was a lot of fun, but of course my daughter was still awake when we got home. (She was in a good mood, but just WOULD NOT go to sleep for her grandma and her grandma's health aide.) 

 

I got my mom a couple of vintage pink scarves that I bought on Etsy - very "Mad Men" - and she likes them a lot!  She got me two new tunics for the office (I find that giving my mom broad categories like "tea" or "work clothes" is the best way to get a present I can actually use from her...) 

Annamaria got a new Gyo Fujikawa book (we love her illustrations) from us, and a pair of heart pajamas from her grandma.  And her favorite cashier at the grocery store gave her a free Valentine balloon. (Disney Princesses, grrr... but how can you criticize a free balloon?) 

 

For Lent this year, I've given up cheese - I eat entirely too much of it the rest of the year.  Also, Vodouisants don't do any "work" for themselves or others during Lent, and don't even make any offerings to their spirits during Holy Week. 

 

Does anyone here work with Lord Shiva? He has a couple of festivals coming up soon, right?  (DaughterofKali was the first person I thought of, but there might be others.) 

 

Wolfcat, and Revolting and your new babe, I will keep you in my thoughts as often as I can! 

02-16-2013 04:26 PM
Kaydove Revolting - I missed you are pregnant too! Congrats!!
02-16-2013 01:58 PM
Maiasaura

We loved those velcro veggies!

 

I love the Cathedral. I grew up Episcopalian so it's not a stretch for me to go there. I love it. LOVE it. The only problem is I can't really get the One God thing, or the Jesus Is The Only Way To Salvation thing...which would really help lol.gif

So, Lent...I am working on no/reduced salt, and upping exercise. Just 15 minutes a day. I can do that. I think.

 

Someone posted a blog called Pagan Lent. I thought it was awesome. See if you can find it!

02-16-2013 10:59 AM
vydalea
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I've been reading posts for the last few months, but haven't much felt like posting. These last few months have been really emotionally hard on me.
My beloved van was in the shop for 9 weeks, with financial and transportation stress the whole time. Then my daycare provider quit and we had to find a new one. The new one is great but someone (we think it was the provider before the old one) called the new one and outed my family as pagan to her. Now, we don't hide who we are, but religion isn't something that we just go around saying ˝hi, I'm Sarah and I'm pagan!" Plus, we're in a small town so I am a bit cautious with new people. Turns out, the new daycare provider's biggest concern was that my kids mght watch something that mentions Jesus and we'd be insulted. Lol

My brother is still MIA and I'm still unsure how to feel about it. Still seeing the therapist for that one.

My kids went to gramma's for New Years and they went up north with their cousin for a few days. They came back with headlice and grammar had had antibiotic-resistant bronchitis. O.O Thank the gods it was a light infestation and a few rounds of coconut oil and combing took care of it.

In January, I was sick for three weeks, on and off. The first time, the day I called in sick, they had to call me in to work for a few hours because I run the documentation system with all our records and the FDA had shown up for a periodic audit (we make a supplement).

Now we are undergoing a complete revision of our company structure and I'm really feeling that stress.

DH is trying to catch up on 10 years of neglected dental work and physicals. So we are trying to work with what is coming out of that. Fortunately, he has decent insurance to cover it.

My writing projects are going well although I'm behind schedule on what I wanted to get done because of all the illness.

I did a Tarot reading a few weeks ago and got "abundance" for the final outcome. Also, the Tower seems to be symbolically speaking to me these days, so crossing fingers that this is just the reset button being hit.

hug2.gif  WOAH, Mama.  It's a good thing you're such a strong woman.  I say this because even though it sounds like you've had one HELL of a past few months you still seem fairly optimistic.  Sending you love and support energy.  I will send up a special thoughts that wherever your brother is, he is getting the help that he needs.  stillheart.gif

 

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AFM - We're staying with DHs grandma so I haven't been able to do any candle magick or rituals. DH joked its why he didn't get the job in Santa Monica. Any ideas on stealth magick?

My stealth magick is thoughts and visualizations, usually.  Quiet moments stolen where I can get them and meditate and sending up energy.  I hope you find ways to express what you need to. 

 

I am going to the beautiful Episcopalian cathedral up the road, in about 15 minutes, for their Lenten service. Tell you about it later, if y'all want to hear smile.gif

Yes, Maia, do tell!  How do you balance the 2 for you?  I really like the idea of Lent as a time to make a sacrifice and/or be more mindful... I grew up Methodist and it was my favorite time of year.  It felt like the most powerful time for me.  

 

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Vy: She finally likes school. She made a friend, and she has started an enrichment program. Both I think have helped. Of course, there's always downsides: we've had some recurrent discipline and teasing issues on the bus. The enrichment program is still pretty below her achievement level. Maia, you have a pretty gifted kid, right? Any tips? She's still really resistant to the process of getting ready for school (and having a bedtime early enough that will make our mornings go smoothly), but for right now, she's mostly happy with her school experience, so I'm happy with the decision to continue school for the time being.

 

Last minute changes on those huge projects sounds so stressful. It sounds great that you kept on top of everything and things didn't fall apart. I could definitely do better about being flexible like that.

 

 

Wolf: Hugs! What a rough, rough month. I had hoped the situation with your brother would be resolved by now. Good for you for going to therapy.

 

How was everyone's valentine's day? My eldest came home with the sweetest valentine's day card for me. It said, "If You Do Not Love Me, I Still Will. I Will Always Love You. But Do Not forgit To Love Me. You Are my best." She covered it in stickers, hearts, and xoxos with a big cut out of a tracing of her hand with two fingers folded down so the hand made the ASL sign for "I love you." Isn't that the sweetest thing? My partner came home and set up a lovely bath candlelit bath for us complete with a gift of a new candle holder. It was so freaking sweet. And my eldest shared her V-Day party loot with her brother. I love my family so much! luxlove.gif Tonight, we'll drop off the kids with my parents and go see Warm Bodies. My partner loves zombies, and at first I was skeptical, but it's gotten pretty good reviews. We bought tickets at a movie theater that's also a bar before we knew I was pregnant. Oops. But it'll be fun anyway. We've only been once, and each room is decorated with a different classic movie theme, and the decorations are amazing. Plus, tickets are pretty cheap, because they make most of their money serving drinks.

I am happy to hear that your DD is enjoying school for the most part.  The bus is the worst.  Gah.  Don't even get me started.  Maybe I'm more resilient now because of my bus experience.  haha.  

 

Seriously?  I cried when I read what your eldest wrote you in her Vday card.  What a sweetie pie.  DH and I don't celebrate V-day together... when we first met he spent a semester in Rome.  I went to go visit him and he took me to Paris for a Vday present (it's not as fancy as it sounds: we took the train, we were poor college students and did it up very FRUGALLY) but it was awesome and I told him then that we never had to celebrate Vday again because how could you top that.  I might regret that 15 years later... just a scoonch.  

 

I totally missed that you were pregnant, revolting.  I am keeping a candle lit in my heart for you, mama!!  heartbeat.gif

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V-day-- my sweet little boy bought me a long stemmed red rose bud, with baby's breath and ferns luxlove.gif

My man's dd turned 30 on V-day. For him, the 14th of February is her birthday. He isn't a gifty sort anyway, unless it's spontaneous or unless I prompt him. A lot.

My mom sent me a V-day text bigeyes.gif

All these cutie presents from your kids make me excited for when Z is old enough to think about Vday differently.  I gave her a book and this plastic toy veggie cutting thing (two sides velcroed together) she loves it - hasn't stopped playing with it since.  She puts random pieces together and gives them to me throughout the day telling me they are my "happy valentines, mama"  It's pretty cute.  

 

I can feel spring in the air here.  I want to hug every tree I see, kiss the brown grass... Z and I were even out in the backyard cleaning up the outdoor altar area this week.  treehugger.gif can't wait!!!!!!  

02-15-2013 01:56 PM
Maiasaura
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Originally Posted by revolting View PostThe enrichment program is still pretty below her achievement level. Maia, you have a pretty gifted kid, right? Any tips? She's still really resistant to the process of getting ready for school (and having a bedtime early enough that will make our mornings go smoothly), but for right now, she's mostly happy with her school experience, so I'm happy with the decision to continue school for the time being.

 

 

How was everyone's valentine's day?

 

I dunno....I dunno if I'd say "gifted"; I am just used to my boy the way he is lol.gif At 11, his reading level was between 11th grade and 3rd year college. He turned 12 recently. He lags in math a little bit, but not much, and his emotional level is probably about age 7 or 8. Complex child, this one! What kind of tips are you looking for? He is VERY severely ADHD and is on 4 meds-- two for ADHD (one behind the other, because the first one, Vyvanse, is supposed to be 12 hours but his metabolism is such that it barely lasts 6), one for anger (Tenex, a very small dose) and one for mood-- suspected bipolar, but he's very young yet for dx (Trileptal). I didn't want him on ANY, but at 7ish, we decided to try, and never looked back, really. He can't get through an hour without them.
Mornings are VERY difficult, as are evenings, when the meds haven't kicked in/have worn off. I have decided, in the mornings, to get up early so I can get a shower and a few minutes of peace for myself, and then devote completely one-on-one time to my kid. No phone calls, try not to listen to the radio much. Because he will finally get out of bed, I will tell him to get dressed, and go in there 6 or 7 minutes later to find him still naked, crouched over the heat vent and playing with some toy. I have to stand there, hand him his underwear, actually TELL him to put one leg in and then the other. Then, the pants. Then shirt. Then lead him by the hand (or shoulder or whatever) into the kitchen and guide him to sit down to eat. He just.can.not. do any of this by himself w/o meds.
ON the meds? He is who I think he was meant to be. He's focused (well, mostly), stable, even-tempered, kind, smiley. OFF them? He's an utter arse. Bad tempered, unfocused, mean.
What exactly were you asking me? Did any of that help?

 

V-day-- my sweet little boy bought me a long stemmed red rose bud, with baby's breath and ferns luxlove.gif

My man's dd turned 30 on V-day. For him, the 14th of February is her birthday. He isn't a gifty sort anyway, unless it's spontaneous or unless I prompt him. A lot.

My mom sent me a V-day text bigeyes.gif

02-15-2013 08:10 AM
revolting

Vy: She finally likes school. She made a friend, and she has started an enrichment program. Both I think have helped. Of course, there's always downsides: we've had some recurrent discipline and teasing issues on the bus. The enrichment program is still pretty below her achievement level. Maia, you have a pretty gifted kid, right? Any tips? She's still really resistant to the process of getting ready for school (and having a bedtime early enough that will make our mornings go smoothly), but for right now, she's mostly happy with her school experience, so I'm happy with the decision to continue school for the time being.

 

Last minute changes on those huge projects sounds so stressful. It sounds great that you kept on top of everything and things didn't fall apart. I could definitely do better about being flexible like that.

 

 

Wolf: Hugs! What a rough, rough month. I had hoped the situation with your brother would be resolved by now. Good for you for going to therapy.

 

How was everyone's valentine's day? My eldest came home with the sweetest valentine's day card for me. It said, "If You Do Not Love Me, I Still Will. I Will Always Love You. But Do Not forgit To Love Me. You Are my best." She covered it in stickers, hearts, and xoxos with a big cut out of a tracing of her hand with two fingers folded down so the hand made the ASL sign for "I love you." Isn't that the sweetest thing? My partner came home and set up a lovely bath candlelit bath for us complete with a gift of a new candle holder. It was so freaking sweet. And my eldest shared her V-Day party loot with her brother. I love my family so much! luxlove.gif Tonight, we'll drop off the kids with my parents and go see Warm Bodies. My partner loves zombies, and at first I was skeptical, but it's gotten pretty good reviews. We bought tickets at a movie theater that's also a bar before we knew I was pregnant. Oops. But it'll be fun anyway. We've only been once, and each room is decorated with a different classic movie theme, and the decorations are amazing. Plus, tickets are pretty cheap, because they make most of their money serving drinks.

02-13-2013 07:59 AM
Maiasaura
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Originally Posted by Wolfcat View PostI figure I'm just not bored enough to have those interactions... most of the time orngbiggrin.gif

Turns out, the new daycare provider's biggest concern was that my kids mght watch something that mentions Jesus and we'd be insulted. Lol

My brother is still MIA and I'm still unsure how to feel about it. Still seeing the therapist for that one.

My kids went to gramma's for New Years and they went up north with their cousin for a few days. They came back with headlice and grammar had had antibiotic-resistant bronchitis. O.O Thank the gods it was a light infestation and a few rounds of coconut oil and combing took care of it.
Fortunately, he has decent insurance to cover it.

 

 

Geez, mama! You have been through the wringer! hug2.gif Big, big hugs. The thing about your brother really stinks. I would be so freaked.

And yeah about my online shite-- "not bored enough" really does cover it. This woman recently (a month ago?) got a  new job, and she's on FB all dang day. Nice job, huh?

Make SURE, about the lice. OMG we had them back and forth, ds and me, for two flippin' months, back in August/September. Get this:
http://www.ashevillelice.com/products.html I swear to all the Gods, it is worth the money, and the Best.Thing.Ever. That lady is local to me, but she's very, very knowledgable and is so because she has two kids that one time could not get rid of the lice. Oh, and I also have a loupe from an herb class I took ages ago-- very helpful for seeing nits!

 

Lucky, about the insurance, so there is that thumb.gif
 

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Originally Posted by Kaydove View PostAFM - We're staying with DHs grandma so I haven't been able to do any candle magick or rituals. DH joked its why he didn't get the job in Santa Monica. Any ideas on stealth magick?

 

For me, it's all about intent and focusing, so stealth is basically it, unless I'm alone. As you know, my house is for sale, so I have a "stealth altar" in my room on my dresser-- it's a couple of fronds of pretty things from the yard in a vase (water), a rock (earth), a stick of incense (air), and a candle (fire). It just looks like pretty things, but *I* know what it's about winky.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Fortune Teller View PostWhat a strange situation, to be 'outed' as Pagan in such a way.  Sounds like your new daycare provider is more tolerant than the old one though.  That is one blessing at least, in all the craziness you have been going through!  

 

Yep, this! Blessings. Blessings.

 

I sent what I thought was a really nice reply to that woman, and it backfired in a huge way. I am getting the feeling (well, no, I have the feeling) that she is just batshit crazy and I didn't know it until I was the target of it. I did some ritual and meditation around it and I am thus far able to let most of it go, but I am not having any interaction with her at all online anymore, and I will be cordial in person, but that's all. She appears to be one of those people that you don't know is crazy unless you're the target of it. Untreated bipolar, anybody? Ye Gods. Dangerous untreated bipolar batshit crazy, from what I can see. Scary.

 

I am going to the beautiful Episcopalian cathedral up the road, in about 15 minutes, for their Lenten service. Tell you about it later, if y'all want to hear smile.gif

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