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Today 03:35 AM
Xerxella @Milk8shake - Well, I'm glad it's not PTL. So, is it bedrest now? Home? Hospital? Modified? Strict?

Hugs to you. Give everything a week to settle. I felt better after a week of bedrest when everything settled down.
Today 03:31 AM
Xerxella @monkeyscience - Actually, it's best for baby A if B passes away. In fact, everyone strongly recommended terminating B to give A the best chance. We couldn't do it for a number of reasons (primarily, because it has a 10-15% chance of causing the loss of the whole pregnancy by accidentally introducing an infection or breaking the water). But, of course, the decision to give B a chance was/ is incredibly complicated and emotionally fraught.

About B's lungs. No one knows. It depends on when and if the hydrops resolves. For instance, if it resolves now and he stays in for another 10 weeks, things look better. If it resolves 5 weeks from now and he's born 6 weeks from now, he probably won't make it.

But, the most likely scenario, is that he'll pass away in utero from the fluid pressure on his heart or whatever's causing the hydrops to begin with (which we still don't know). It is unlikely the hydrops will resolve.
Yesterday 09:59 PM
Milk8shake Have been checked by MFM doc and given all clear for now. Baby okay. Cervix changing around, but not PTL. Strict rest orders.
Yesterday 08:38 PM
monkeyscience Ugh, that sucks, Milk! Just post the number to the hospital, they can have complaints coming in from around the world! Hope you and little one are okay.

X - I'm sorry you don't have better news for Baby B. I'm happy things aren't getting worse otherwise. It's still better for Baby A if Baby B keeps fighting, isn't it? Have the doctors said anything about when they think it would be too late for Baby B's lungs to recover if the hydrops did resolve? (Feel free to not answer the questions if you don't want to.) Still praying for a miracle. Your viability date is the day before my due date - I hope we are both still pregnant then, and that you're pregnant until Halloween, or Thanksgiving, or Christmas!

Autumn - Hugs to you, lady. It seems strange for your dh to be flipping out when you went to so much effort to bring this baby into being. Dealing with that is rough. My dh was freaking out about the pregnancy I lost, even though he'd certainly been in on all the trying. I expected him to be relieved when I miscarried, but he actually was sad and disappointed and wanted to try again immediately. I hope your dh chills out soon. And I hope you don't have GD!

Hi to everyone else, still stalking along, going to try to post more - we'll see! But yes, of course I'll let you know when baby gets here! Promise! At least some vital stats, if nothing else.
Yesterday 08:27 PM
tracyamber
Fertility Challenged Graduates Thread - Spring/Summer 2014

@Milk8shake
I'm sorry to hear all that is going on, hugs please update. @alivewithyou
Cute belly!! @chuord
Yep, I had to wean a bit. It is a lot slower than the fertility challenge thread. Partly because once pregnant there's less to talk about



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Yesterday 05:51 PM
Xerxella @alivewithyou - great pic!!!!!! What a great time you guys had!
@Milk8shake - any update this morning! Thinking of you!
Yesterday 05:13 PM
Tear78 Milk8, thinking of you! I'm so angry with how you were treated! I hope you're not posting because you're busy demanding answers and bring reassured. Good thoughts coming your way!
Yesterday 04:15 PM
chuord Cute pic alivewithyou, the sunlight on your baby belly is magical.

Sourire - I noticed your blog today (I often post from phone) and went and checked it out... I love your way of writing about everything! It was a fun read...

Anyone else with any news? Hmm I might have to wean myself off here - I check it way too many times a day cos i love everyone's news...
Yesterday 04:09 PM
alivewithyou @Milk8shake - sorry to hear that the doctors are being useless for you. please keep us updated on what is going on. Hopefully it's nothing too serious.

Hi everyone, sorry I'm a bit behind. We went camping all last weekend and then we were in San Diego this weekend so a little bit exhausted. That and my husband and I both have interviews for new jobs coming up and i have a huge certification coming up in two weeks. As soon as that is done, I am going baby crazy and living and breathing this pregnancy and enjoying it lol.



This picture is at 17 weeks, 2 days. Definitely starting to feel like I look pregnant.. so much fun. I also am pretty confident I felt my first little kicks this morning on the airplane ride home. It was 3 very distinct taps and I looked down because I thought my husband had did it and his hand wasn't on my stomach lol. Still nothing consistent yet but I'm sure we will get there.
Yesterday 02:43 PM
chuord Hugs milkshake!!! Sometimes the system sucks here, dh did 5 years in emerg. And he found some of the consultants were real jerks... Sour ire is right though ED should have ran an ultrasound to check.... I've been in before with abdominal pain and got u/s to check for cysts and appendicitis... Didn't you have a scare with that before? Mention that and force them.
The protocol is supposed to be the ED docs do enough testing that the consultants can tell if you need help or not - it sounds like you didn't get checked properly on either front.
Where are you and which hospital? One of my best mates is an ED consultant in Sydney... I could try and find out which hospital?
Serious hugs, you didn't need that stress, keep us posted!
Yesterday 11:26 AM
adiejan @Milk8shake -I agree with X that is complete bullshit! I don't even understand their rational! I am so sorry you are going through this. Hugs and positive energy are headed your way!
Yesterday 07:50 AM
Sourire Milk - did they at least do an ultrasound to check that the baby was ok? I had a similar situation when I was 17 weeks and I basically refused to leave the ER until they did an ultrasound. The fools didn't want to do one because they ran an HCG test and my beta was 45,000. I was like how is that useful information????

The best thing you can do for your baby right now is rest as much as possible until you get some real answers.
Yesterday 07:16 AM
Xerxella @Milk8shake - That is bullshit!!!!!! Total bullshit!

How could they not call in an OB consult? How do they know your uterus didn't rupture and you're not bleeding out internally? Granted, that's clearly not the case, but they don't know that over the phone. Any of a million things could've happened and they should make sure YOU'RE doing fine!!

I'm so pissed for you right now, it's not even funny.

Can you go to a different ER and tell them you're 20 weeks? Can you go back to the first and tell them it's horrifically worse on the pain scale?

I'm so angry for you.
Yesterday 05:54 AM
Milk8shake It's Sunday night and I took myself off to Emergency this afternoon after having a lot of pelvic pressure, some cramping and and a heck of a lot of (mostly painless) contractions. After four hours, they sent me home.

The ER doc tried calling in an OB consult and they point blank refused to see me. Basically said that the hospital rules state that if you are less than 20 weeks, tough shit. I'm furious and terrified and the same time. I have to wait until morning to phone my case manager and see if there is anything she can do. I only hope nothing happens in the next 10 or so hours until I can talk to her.
09-20-2014 05:01 PM
chuord Tracy - you are nuts lol, I'm guessing the view makes it all worth the stairs? Umm I just had a thought, how many stairs will you be carrying baby stuff up and down daily? Hope you get lots of rest!
09-20-2014 03:37 PM
tracyamber I'm exhausted! Moving into a house with stairs is absolute torture for a pregnant woman. At least our things are in the house and getting to the appropriate floor thanks to dh.
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09-19-2014 05:48 PM
Tear78 Milk8, woohooooo! That is just a magical feeling! I'm so happy hearing your updates!
09-19-2014 03:56 PM
adiejan @monkeyscience - thanks for adding me to the roster. I know you are very busy cooking that baby.

@Milk8shake -I love that you are getting kicked so much...does that sound bad! Very exciting @chuord -I love your bump pic. @tracyamber and @Xerxella - Hi Again!
09-19-2014 08:14 AM
tracyamber @monkeyscience no worries mama!
Hey do you want someone to take over the thread now? You definitely will be much busier when the baby comes.Maybe we should change the title to graduates thread- current and that way it can just continue, I dunno.



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09-19-2014 04:35 AM
Xerxella @monkeyscience - Rest up!!!! We don't need updates. You're almost there. As milk said, just update is when the bean is born.
@Milk8shake - Woohoo!!!!!!! Now, baby's not going to stop kicking you! Baby probably just rolled over and said, "Hey! There's mom's belly button! Let's kick it!"

So fun! What a wonderful constant reassurance. Don't be surprised if bean rolls the other way at some time and you don't feel them. They'll wake up and roll back.
09-19-2014 01:27 AM
Milk8shake Oh @monkeyscience , thanks for trying! Can't believe you are so damn close. I'm a bit guilty of reading and not posting too. As long as you are not too tired to update when baby girl makes an appearance, we will forgive you.

@tracyamber , @chuord , and @kewpie80 - I'm so jealous of your bumps. I have nothing at all - except chub. Literally, the baby is just making itself at home in the gap left by all the morning sickness weight I lost. There's a bit of a bump when I'm lying down, but that's it!

@adiejan , I bet you are just more in tune, but still! Five sets is a LOT!

@Xerxella you know I'm sending good vibes to you and your fighter babies!

AFM: Kicks! I've had a few random feelings over the last two weeks, but was never really sure until yesterday. In the morning, the kicks started and have hardly stopped. I never thought I would feel this much movement so quick! I thought it would be one or two here and there, and then build up over time. But today there have been so many. It's the craziest feeling in the world, and I kept grinning to myself all day at work. I still can't believe that I have this living, growing, thriving baby inside me. It's so incredibly surreal that I can't even explain it really. I
09-18-2014 06:44 PM
monkeyscience Annnd ds is bawling again. Sigh. Attempted to update the roster, but am missing some stuff for some people. I love you ladies, please don't hate me!
09-18-2014 06:19 PM
monkeyscience I'm sorry I just keep not posting... I'm going to try. I've been dying of tired the last few weeks, and have just not had energy for social interaction. I want to hear about other people, but responding (and not just here) has seemed like soooo much work. Last night I was up with ds basically all night. Every half hour to hour he'd cough, moan, then cry and need to be comforted. I finally gave up and took him to sleep on the basement couch so dh could get some rest for work. (dh was snoring and I couldn't sleep anyway ) The waking kept up until he got up for the day at 6 am. So I am kind of fried. I'm just glad I didn't get so uncomfortable that I couldn't sleep at all, or wake up with my neck totally screwed up, which is what I was expecting. Anyway... okay, actually, I'm going to try to update the roster THEN post. But for any who are wondering, yes, still pregnant! (38+1 today)
09-18-2014 05:47 PM
tracyamber @chuord
Cutie bump mama.
Thanks for starting the belly shots @kewpie80
@Xerxella I'm sorry this is being so tough but you sound strong. I guess it is good to not have any expectations . Praying for both babies.


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09-18-2014 05:21 PM
Xerxella @chuord - such a cute little bump!!!! Everyone looks so different than I imagine even if your pic is in your avatar! Lol.
09-18-2014 04:41 PM
chuord Xerxella - understood. We will all just keep praying for him then. As long as you manage to keep him in there he has a chance to heal... Fingers and toes all crossed, sending the love over the miles.

Ok here's my pathetic belly pic (I took it first thing today so I'm less bloated)
09-18-2014 03:05 PM
Xerxella
Fertility Challenged Graduates Thread - Spring/Summer 2014

@chuord and @kewpie80 and all - no. It's really not a good thing. There's so much fluid in his lungs that they can't develop properly. If the fluid doesn't go away somehow, it doesn't matter when he's born, he won't be able to breathe. He simply won't have the lung capacity to sustain life.
09-18-2014 01:52 PM
chuord Tracy - thanks!!! It's so cute! Totally understand the home alone issue... Lol I used to worry how I'd fit one!
Xerxella - you are doing a great job! I'm with kewpie - is staying the same but still growing a good thing? I'm guessing if baby b makes it into viability but is born with hydrops they can treat when he's out? I hope there are still options! The fact he's still there and growing tells me he wants to be with you. Hugs on all your patience!
Kewpie - how are you finding it coping with your other two as well this time? I guess they're old enough to be helpful?
Adie - I'm with you I think it's just starting to pop up, I've been managing to partially belly sleep (with one leg bent up to make space) even that feels too much pressure now... I did have one great nausea free day, but it was back yesterday... So I guess there's a little more to deal with - but my day off was like a holiday! My next scan is nuchal at 13 weeks (16-10 I think) looking forward to that and the blood tests and then really enjoying this whole process.
09-18-2014 11:02 AM
adiejan @Xerxella -you are sure doing a good job of keeping those babies in there. You are one strong mama. Sorry no miracle for baby B. I hope it comes!
@kewpie80 -love those bump pics! You look so happy!
@tracyamber -love your bump pic too! So cute!
@chuord -how are you feeling? I agree, I kind of forgot how quickly things grow with twins.

Hi everyone else!

AFM: I'm at a conference for attachment issues in Orlando right now. In fact I'm currently sluffing a boring session because I'm so freaking tired! I learned all about prenatal development and attachment relationships yesterday which was particularly fascinating for me right now! I'm feeling so bloated and I feel like my uterus is def popping a bit. So cool! Since I've been traveling I've seen 5 sets of identical twins. I'm sure I'm just more attuned but it's pretty crazy. Sorry I've been kind of absent...I've been reading along with lots of support.
09-18-2014 09:26 AM
kewpie80
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All those cute baby bumps! I look like a beached whale! Lol. I'll post a picture when I have some reasonable clothes on. :P

AFM - So, essentially, the u/s and check up showed no change. The cervix is shortened, but basically unchanged. The cerclage is holding. Baby A looks great. He's continuing to measure a few days ahead, which is great. Unfortunately, baby B looks the same. He's growing on track, but the hydrops appears the same. I was hoping for a miracle, but now just trying to stay grounded.

PS. I'm 22+2 today.
I'm sorry you didn't get better news about B. Is it reassuring that it isn't getting worse or does that not matter? I'm glad the cerclage is holding still. You're almost to viability! That was my mantra last time when I was so scared of them coming early. 2 weeks till viability, 1 week, 1 week past, 2 weeks past...
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