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Yesterday 10:00 PM
tracyamber @Autumnlaughing
I can't believe you are so close to meeting your baby. Time flies doesn't it?? Hope you don't have GD!

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Yesterday 06:53 PM
Autumnlaughing @tracyamber - *any* flights of stairs kick my butt! (well, really the sore area is more in the front..) I actually live in a 2 story and work on the 2nd floor - I plan my trips up and down carefully now! And every time we've done any moving of stuff around or cleaning, I really feel it.
@Xerxella - sounds like a good attitude? And good intuition
@Kewpie - My original OB/Gyn was kind of like that - not quite as bad, though! Although, that is the one with the doctor that didn't mention our MF issues on the first IUI, so they may have had other issues, too. I *really* like the midwife I saw there, though! When I transferred to the fertility place, they ended up doing a pap, and then set me up with a 6 mo follow up at with the regular group in their office - I could have gone back to the first place, but the office mess ups are what made me stick with the new place.
@Adie & @ chuord - I'm still excited for you guys

and hi to everyone else!!!

AFM - probably do have GD. I'm frustrated, because I've already got a bizzillion allergies I'm eating around, and some weird sort of hypoglycemic tendencies that no doctor has ever cared enough about to sort out, and the GD diet info doesn't seem to mesh well with that. Also, I'd almost started to feel some trust in my body again. Oh well... Little girl is still kicking away, so that's good. I can't believe we've gotten this far! My brother is SO EXCITED to be an uncle that it almost makes up for everyone else's lack of excitement. He doesn't talk to us much, but we did text for hours on Friday. Also, went on a vacation to Maine, and it was awesome, even though I couldn't walk around nearly as much as I would have liked!
Yesterday 04:07 PM
chuord Tracy - so excited for you with your new house! So much fun, and woman what are you thinking up and down all those stairs! Lol that's crazy!
Yesterday 03:50 PM
tracyamber Hi everyone
I've been busy packing and it's been exhausting doing this while pregnant. I'm sure glad we found a house and was able to close Friday and get the keys though. I love it ! though walking up 3 flights of stairs kicked my behind today because I had to make about 10 trips to the car to get our blankets into the master bedroom. Anyway, been reading but but feeling tired. Did I say that already?in two days I will be 19 weeks.
Hello to everyone!

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Yesterday 03:18 PM
Xerxella @kewpie80 - thanks for all the info! I think it's scary no matter what. I recently found out my SIL was 3 cm dilated, bulging bag at 19 weeks. This was 15 years ago as they said they could do nothing for her! She went on strict bedrest and made it to 39 weeks! She cane off bedrest at 37 weeks and he still held on for 2 more weeks. My nephew Andrew is a healthy teenager. There were never any issues. So, that's encouraging!
@chuord - yeah for some feeling better!

AFM - 22 weeks tomorrow. We have an MFM u/s on Wednesday. Things have felt..... better lately. I don't know what that means. I know they're both still alive because I feel them kicking independently. I'm trying to keep my head screwed on straight and keep my expectations low. I just want at least one take home baby. But, my heart has hope.
Yesterday 02:39 PM
chuord Kewpie - great to hear from you! Thanks for all the sharing and info it's great - you are the twin knowledge supply on here
Glad you had a great time on holiday!
Omg that office is awful! I think you should send a private note to your old doctor, letting him know that because he is good you wanted to let him know how much his staff are letting him down... That's awful! However the new guy sounds great - very like the IF guy I was seeing - fx!
I didn't know you could buy zofran in big packs!!! That's great! My Ob told me to take maxolon regularly and add zofran when needed, again I didn't know you could take both together! Seems a little overkill sometimes.
Milk - keep trying to relax. Hope things are still well.
Xerxella - you must be 22wks by now! Woohoo only two more till viability and then slowly to 30 weeks - you are doing a great job!
Monkey - are you feeling ready?
Everyone - how are you travelling, enjoying the pg?
Afm - sorry about the hyper, I have a tiny bit more energy and less queasy and it's lifted my spirits amazingly!
Yesterday 09:16 AM
kewpie80 @adiejan - With both my twin pregnancies, my OB referred me to a perinatologist (MFM). I went in at 17 weeks this pregnancy and I think my first time with the last pregnancy was right around either 14 weeks or 16 weeks. If they don't mention it to you, just ask.

So excited for you and your identicals! I've seen that happen a couple other times on here. Keria, who used to post often, had triplets implant with 2 of them identical. Sadly, one of them didn't make it, but her remaining 2 are happy and healthy. One other person who used to post here had identicals too. I can't rememeber how her story went or her name unfortunately. Did you do ICSI? That increases chances of identical twinning. My RE was trying to discourage us from transferring 2 for that reason. She didn't want us to end up with trips or quads. Anyway, I'm rambling.... haha So happy for you and I'l keep you in my thoughts that everything goes super easy for you!
Yesterday 09:08 AM
kewpie80 I'm so behind here. We've had a couple trips (trying to fit them all in before I can't travel anymore) and our garden is producing like crazy. Anyway, sorry to be away so long
@Xerxella and @chuord - There's not much to tell about my cervix story, but I can tell you what little there is. I went in for routine u/s with the perinatologist at around 16 weeks. My cervix was shorter than they would have liked, but wasn't bad enough for a cerclage at that time. They told me to lay down more. Then at 18 weeks, I had another scan and it had shortened more. I think I was in the high 2cm for length. They put me on modified bed rest at that point. Then they had me come in weekly to check. I started bleeding heavily and having contractions, so I was admitted to the hospital, but they couldn't determine where the bleeding was coming from. They did a test to check for... I think it was a certain protein? that might be present near the cervix. If it's positive, it means I would have likely gone into labor in the next few days. It was neg, so they sent me home. My cervix shortened to just under 2cm, but I was past 20 weeks then and they don't usually do cerclages by that point. I was on strict bed rest and crossing my legs to hold everyone in. Things settled and I didn't shrink more than tiny bits between then and went I had to be induced at 36 weeks for pre-eclampsia. It wasn't quite as severe as what xerxella is dealing with, but I did end up in the hospital one more time with pre-labor symptoms. I can't remember how far along I was for that one, though.

This pregnancy has been so much easier. I had SCH with my last one that burst and gushed blood at 6 weeks. That lasted until I was about 12-14ish weeks. Then the bleeding scares later along with pre-labor more than once. This time, everything has been smooth sailing other than the spotting I had in the early weeks. I'm glad for that for sure. It's hard to rest with toddlers in the house.


I’m 18 weeks now and have resigned myself that this all-day sickness is here to stay and bought a 3 month supply of zofran. It’s cheaper per pill to do it that way. Either I just jinxed myself and wasted the money, but that means I won’t be sick, so that’s a win or I’ll be all set which is also a win. haha

I’m seeing a new OB this morning. I can’t remember if I mentioned it here or not, but my old OB’s office was horrible. The doctors were great and I hated leaving them, but the staff was horrible. First, I had to bring some urine (the big 24 hour test) in for testing. I called the morning of and asked if I need to make an appt or just come in. I was told to come in. I went in and they receptionist was very huffy and said I was supposed to make an appt first. She told me to sit down and they’ve fit me in. an hour later, I finally got in. I was the only person sitting in the lobby the entire time.

Then, they lost the results of this and 8 other blood tests I had done. The nurse called me 3 weeks later and said I need to do all the tests. I said I had and she had no record of them.

I had an appt on thursday a week and a half ago. I got a text on the following Saturday saying I missed my appt on friday. um…. So, I called back on monday and said I had an appt on thursday that I went to. The receptionist checked and said the appt of friday was supposed to be scheduled for a different patient. Ugh. Nice.

As I was coming out of the office a few days ago, a lady was having a rant saying that they never scheduled her anatomy scan and she was going to have to wait 2 more weeks even though she had the appt card in hand. That confirmed it wasn’t just me and this is a very poorly run office.

Anyway, this office was recommended by a friend. He didn’t pop up in any of my google searches. He’s an older guy, about the same age as my dad. Reviews say that he’s efficient and quick, but will take them time if you need it. He treats his patients like his daughters and is very kind. Bonus that he’s only a few blocks from my house instead of in another city like my last one.

I’ve been feeling a lot of movement all over, so I’m not really worried about this appt, other than just hoping he’s a good match for me. My big anatomy scan is scheduled for the last friday of the month. I'm hoping everything still looks perfect.
09-14-2014 06:14 PM
chuord Hope4light - well done you for sticking up for your kids... Not a fun situation, but bullies come in all sizes. My dh said something a while ago that stuck with me - people assume that ALL old people are nice (bear with me) he said they're not! He said if someone is an arse / mean when younger chances are they'll still be an arse / mean when old... Guess it's true for all ages and mothers too.
Hugs on the annoyance!
09-14-2014 05:43 PM
hope4light hey ladies. I typically don't post on weekends, but had to post this because I'm still fuming mad about it. Totally OT, nothing to do with you beautiful ladies and your pregnancies

So today I met a good friend of mine about halfway b/t where we both live (so it was almost an hour for me). We met up and I gave her a bunch of hand me down clothes for her girls, we had lunch, and we decided to go to the local mall to let the kids blow off some steam at the indoor play place before we headed our separate ways.

When we got there, there was a number of kids there. Mostly pretty young, but a couple that were a bit older, and immediately I wondered if they were too big for the play area (it has a 42 inch cut off in height - if you're taller than that you're not allowed), I'm guessing they were maybe 8 - 10.

So these girls seemed to be running around a little crazy, so I was wary but wasn't too worried. So the kids start playing, and shortly after they started one of these bigger girls practically climbed over my 20 month old in the little space between the slide and the stairs to the slide.

Let me say this - I have no problem disciplining my BFF's daughter. Scolding her, telling her to stop, whatever necessary. But we've been BFF's for 22 years and I've known her daughter her whole life. It's different. Otherwise I am firmly of the belief that you don't discipline/scold whatever other people's kids.

But this girl didn't bat an eye, and neither did her mom. So I just gently said 'please be careful, he's very little' She looked at me and went on with her play. She and her friend were RUNNING like mad women at this point (and mind you, there's lots of little kids in there - I'd guess a few that were MAYBE 2 and a couple that were younger than that). So one comes running around the slide (that was like a big tree) and literally PUSHED my 20 month old out of her way. Before I even had a chance to process that the other girl (the one who climbed over him) ran him over as she ran past him, without blinking an eye.

Their mom? Sat there silently.

So I looked over at her and asked her to please request that her kids slow down (or something along those lines). Her response? To not get 'smart' with her.

I'm not typically an aggressive person. I try my best not to judge parenting styles - I'm not walking in their shoes. But this crossed a line to me.

I saw red.

I lit into her about her 'too big kids' running around rowdy and not watching for the little kids in the space. She made some other comment and I went on about how her kids pushed and ran over my 20 month old. I was pissed. I think there was some more exchange, but to be honest now that the adrenaline has worn off I don't remember everything. Either way, my friend and I decided to leave. So as we were putting the kids shoes on (she has 2 also) the women (who was sitting not far away from us) made a comment to my friend about 'you guys better not be leaving' and some snarky comment about me. My friend was just like yeah, whatever.

There was this older gentlemen standing right outside of the play space and he was talking to me about how rude other parents could be, and how big kids shouldn't be in there. He was there with his granddaughter, who had also gotten knocked down by one of these kids. She was 2.

Turns out this other mom's 3rd daughter was trying to pull on my friends 1 year old, and finally my friend picked her daughter up and the girl kept following them around and grabbing at the 1 year old.

As this other mom was leaving she had her 3 kids all stand by the stick that says 'you have to be shorter than this to play here' and 2 of them were taller than it.

UGH. Hours later I'm still fuming over it. I'm sorry, but when your OLDER children are coming into physical contact that way with my 20 month old, I'm apparently going to go all mama bear on you.

Sorry for my rant, had to get it out somewhere!!!
09-13-2014 09:43 PM
iixivboots Milk is right, your OB will refer you. It depends on your age and other risk factors for twins. It is also going to depend on whether your twins share a sac, share a placenta, etc. My OB had me have a consult with a perinatalogist but he said it was just once unless more complications arise. I have di/di fraternal twins though, and I've already carried a pregnancy to term so those things are in my favor, even though I'm 35.
My 18 week scan is Monday afternoon!
09-13-2014 04:52 PM
Milk8shake @chuord , I seem to remember that @tracyamber is at risk of uterine rupture, hence the need to deliver early.

@adiejan , the US system is very different from here in Oz, but I gather that your OB would refer you when needed. Here, you would only be seen by an MFM if you have a history that indicates it's necessary, or if your pregnancy is identified at high risk for a particular reason. While I don't think that most OBs classify twin pregnancies as high risk straight off the bat, I suspect that identical twins might see you fall into that category. However, they might not do so until you are out of the first trimester.
09-13-2014 04:29 PM
adiejan I have a random question. How do you know when to see and MFM or Perinatologist? Will my OB refer me if/when I need that? Thanks for your @chuord I am still learning. I feel like I have A LOT to learn!
09-13-2014 01:58 PM
chuord Tracy - are we allowed to ask about you going early? Mainly cos I care, lol but also I'm still learning!
09-13-2014 08:10 AM
Fertility Challenged Graduates Thread - Spring/Summer 2014

Not only are we bump buddies but
Likely to deliver around the same time as I have to go early too. I know I will be having this baby in January even though due date is February. I'm glad all is uneventful for you

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09-12-2014 10:08 PM
Milk8shake @monkeyscience - texting doctor is awesome

@alivewithyou hope you are feeling better in time for your weekend away!

@Xerxella , you're doing a great job hanging in there 24 weeks is inching closer.

@chuord yay for a good scan

AFM: No news is in fact, no news. I'm channeling @Xerxella and just concentrating on baby staying put. My next scan is 25/09 and it's the "official" anatomy scan - I'll be 19+5. My next milestone is 20w, so it's getting closer. Two weeks tomorrow.

@monkeyscience I don't really know what to say for a blurb. My official due date is mid February but even if everything goes perfectly, it's likely to be January at the very latest. (By the way, we have quite a big February group!)
09-12-2014 05:05 AM
MindlessChrissy Babies!!!
09-11-2014 08:43 PM
chuord Attachment 5513
09-11-2014 08:42 PM
chuord Baby 1 is top left, baby 2 bottom right. Hard to see details they're not into sharing the limelight lol.
09-11-2014 08:26 PM
tracyamber @chuord
So glad everything is going great mama!

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09-11-2014 07:12 PM
alivewithyou Good to hear @Xerxella , just know we are still thinking of you.
@chuord : glad to hear your appointment went well! Can't wait to see pictures of your babies. Can't believe you are 8 weeks already, wow!
09-11-2014 07:04 PM
chuord Thanks for the update Xerxella, I think we've all been wondering... You are doing a great job!
Milk? How are you?
Alive with you - enjoy the relaxing r and r!
Adie - lol stalker!
Just home ish - all great baby 1 was on a strange angle so measured 2 days behind, heart 151, baby 2 was perfect at 8wks, heart 161. I could just see them wriggling, and the yolk sac looked great
As soon as I work out how I'll attach a pic!
09-11-2014 06:37 PM
Xerxella @alivewithyou and anyone - I'm fine. Still pregnant. I'm kinda cocooning and focused on making it to 24 weeks. But, I'm following along and cheering you all on!
09-11-2014 03:51 PM
alivewithyou @Xerxella : any news? Worried about you and your babies.

@Milk8shake : any news from you?

Good on my end.. Had check up on Tuesday and everything still looks good. I'm struggling with some anxiety and stomach issues but nothing I can't handle. Going out of town all weekend for camping and fishing so super excited and happy about that.
09-11-2014 03:07 PM
adiejan @chuord - When is your scan? With the time difference isn't it soon? Just stalking!
09-11-2014 02:44 AM
chuord Monkey science - I'll just wait till my scan tomorrow if that's ok, then send my blurb.
09-10-2014 08:30 PM
adiejan @monkeyscience -I PM'd you my blurb
09-10-2014 04:21 PM
Fertility Challenged Graduates Thread - Spring/Summer 2014

I wrote you on the challenge thread!

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09-10-2014 03:54 PM
monkeyscience And my doc just texted me - iron looks okay - she thinks it's 11.something, but will check later. Can I just say, I love her?? Never had a doc text me lab results before, especially without even asking! Now I must go make dinner for the people who are showing up at my house in 30 minutes!
09-10-2014 03:10 PM
monkeyscience Day has not gone as planned, so a quick AAM so as not to worry you ladies - hopefully I'll get roster updates and personals done tomorrow!
@adiejan , @Milk8shake - Can you give me an EDD (or at least a month you want me to put you in) for the roster? And a blurb if you want one (chuord, too). Also, anyone who knows boy/girl and wants it added to the roster, can you let me know?

AAM - appointment was fine, I am not crazy in thinking my belly is suddenly much huger - 3.5 cm gain in fundal height and 3 lb weight gain in the past two weeks, after plateauing on weight gain and uterus growing slightly less the previous 3 weeks. So that assuages my concerns from my last visit. Since my sinus infection is still lingering, I'll be starting on Augmentin tonight. Hopefully that means I'll actually be able to breathe through my nose at night soon. And not get random head/teeth/jaw aches. Also got blood drawn to check my hemoglobin and vitamin D. I think the doc thinks I'm a little nuts for the vitamin D thing, but she went along with it anyway. (Just trying to decide if I need to up my supplementation to make sure that I/the baby get enough, especially once winter hits.) I declined a cervical check, and didn't ask the doctor about the baby's position. I know she's still wiggling. Probably no more internal checks until 40 weeks. What will be, will be. Met with the back up doula yesterday, and meeting with our main doula tomorrow. Washed the newborn and 0-3 month stuff and put it in a drawer today. Set up the cosleeper, and am using it as a temporary holding place for burp cloths and swaddling blankets and other stuff that don't fit in the drawer.

Still always following, even if I'm not responding. Assuming that no news is at least not bad news from @Xerxella and @Milk8shake .
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