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09-20-2004 10:07 AM
krnflwr Oh, I like the name Calen, too.
We have finally agreed on a name (for this week, at least). What do you guys think? Emma Grace.
We could never get over the Arwen-vs-Morgan debate, and once we heard the name Emma, it just seemed to fit just right. I feel so much more settled and relaxed now, oddly enough, about having this baby. Now that I know what to call her.
I'm feeling very heavy and slow and waddly (is that a word?) and like my pelvis is spreading apart inch by inch. Otherwise, I feel pretty good today. Sending positive energy vibes out to all Oct mamas!
My friend in NC just had her 1st baby last night...2 hr labor, can you believe that? They named her Iris Jane, isn't that sweet? I'm so excited for her, but bummed that I won't get to see the baby until at least Thanksgiving time. She said it was a very intense experience (her labor) but felt timeless and wasn't nearly as scary or painful as she had imagined. Just wanted to share the thoughts of this first-time mama w/ all you other first-timers.
And I love the belly cast! It turned out great. If you ever seriously serve chips and dip out of it, I HAVE to see a pic of that!
09-20-2004 10:05 AM
ameliabedelia Piglet, that is great you have a date already. That is so exciting. I am a little jealous of you and your c-section in that regard. I would LOVE to just be able to pick a date for the birth, mark it on my calendar and make plans accordingly LOL. Sorry about your separation. Don't worry, I am sure it will all work out. Maybe you can hold/nurse him immediately after delivery while still in the operating room. I know that LLL says that right after delivery is a good time to nurse while you still have the anasthetic (sp??). Surely they will at least let you hold him for a few minutes before wheeling you off into recovery.

Ann, I am also jealous of all the full-term moms here. I hate being at the end of the pack. LOL. Everyone else hits all the milestones first. But, I *think* I will go early, so I am hoping for a mid-Oct babe, not a late a late Oct. babe or *gasp* Nov. babe. LOL

Court, I know what you mean about the name thing. I am starting to doubt our name too. I really like it, but then I don't know. Choosing a name seems like such a big undertaking, and it is so hard for me and DH to agree. I hope our babe looks like a Greta.

momadance, I like your cast. That is cool. Sorry about the fainting though. At least all is okay now.
09-20-2004 09:48 AM
ameliabedelia Meli,

With my first, I NEVER felt my body getting ready, never felt a single contraction until I actually went into labor, felt great all through the pregnancy, was power walking right up until the end. At my 37 week appt they checked me and I was 1 cm dilated and 50% effaced (and I had never felt a single contraction) and at my 38 week check-up I was 3 cm dilated and 75% effaced (again all without feeling a single contraction). Two days after that appt. I lost my mucous plug and dd was born 2 days after that at 38 1/2 weeks. The first contraction I ever felt was the day before she born when I first started labor.

I have no idea what position the dd was in other than she was head down.

So, you never know when you will go or what your body is doing.

I really think that their is a genetic tendency to go either before or after the EDD. My mom always went between 4-10 days early with all her birth children (4) and my maternal grandmother also always went between 2 weeks and a few days early (3 children). So, I would say your best indication is to ask your mom and grandmother what happened with them.


I have also heard that woman who are more active tend to go earlier than woman who aren't as active.
09-20-2004 05:19 AM
Court ooh I like Calen, too. Yeah, my midwife and I decided to stop weighing me, since it drives me nuts. I think when I'm in labor I might weigh myself just to see the grand total - out of morbid curiosity. My legs feel really huge too...especially when I'm shaving them - there's so much more surface area to cover

P.S.- I organized the Yahoo group photo section. I gave everyone their own little album, cause I thought that might make more sense. If you want to add pictures to your album, just click on it and once you're in there's an "add photos" link. I wanted it all to fit on one page, but sadly trueblue is on page 2, sorry...it was last in alphabetical order. Okay, so apparently I'm nesting online too. Hope it's okay with y'all.
09-20-2004 04:33 AM
AnnR33 Court-we have the opposite problem with names-my DH won't even discuss them anymore! He just keeps saying we'll come up with one when he sees him/her-arg-it's so frustrating to me since we need to have at least some choices-and I like your Kamen. I came up with something similar-Calen (long a sound)
And man do I ever feel FAT! I didn't even weigh myself at my last midwife appt-my legs feel so huge-I don't remember them looking so big last time but they say we always forget...Heck I can barely see my legs :LOL
Hope everyone had a good weekend!
Ann
09-20-2004 03:26 AM
Court I also wanted to send hugs out to Piglet - that hour seperation seems so unfair. I hope it goes by super fast. And I hope Emily is feeling better with her molar ordeal.

I'll PM you the link to our Yahoo group Ashlee!

And hey, I guess my babe is in the optimal fetal positon, cause his back is laying to my left, and has been for quite awhile. Thanks for the info Katie! You learn something new every day. I find, since he's in this position, he wont let me lay on my right side. He knees me and kicks me, I guess he wants to be on his back.

You know what annoys me (besides most everything these days)? Are people like my mom who keep asking, "Are you ready to have the baby?" I'm like 35 1/2 weeks along, so no. I always say, "well, I would kinda like a bigger baby, or he's not done cooking, etc." And they act so baffled.

It's weird, I don't really have any pregnancy complaints lately, except for feeling really fat - which is more amusing really than upsetting. I don't think the baby is engaged yet, so I don't have any of the groin crampy stuff. I'm sure I'll have some complaints in a couple weeks.

Um, one more thought for the night - I'm kinda panicking that we decided on a name so early on. I just hope this baby looks like a Zander, cause that's what we call him. Logan calls him that all the time, so I think it would confuse him if we changed it. I had always said I was gonna have a list of names and then choose after he was born. Now I'm thinking, what if he looks like an Emerson, or Kamen - my made up name. I'm just having anxiety about everything though. I hope yall don't mind me using our chat threads as my personal journal.
09-20-2004 01:41 AM
Lucysmama Meli -

I never felt my dd engage, and I never felt "settled and ready" in my pregnancy with her.My contractions did not feel very productive compared to these - they were not pushing the baby against my cervix in the same way, not as strong, etc. I think it is normal for first time mamas to be slower to get going. I would start mentally preparing yourself (if you haven't already) that you could carry Willow until late October. 37 weeks is pretty early to be feeling ready to birth in a first time mama, I think. (That isn't what you wanna hear, I bet!)

Do you happen to know what your baby's position is? As your first baby, she is more likely to be in a posterior position. If she is posterior, she will have a harder time getting engaged, your BHs will not be as productive, and you will be likelier to carry over your EDD. One thing you can do to help encourage things to move along at a steady pace is to try to flip her in to the optimal fetal position - with her back on your left side, and anterior if she isn't already.

I just went to a 2 hour meeting about positioning, so it is all very fresh in my mind! I can't believe how much of a difference it makes in pregnancy, labor, and birth, and how little is ever said about it to women!!!
09-20-2004 12:00 AM
mandalamama 37 weeks today, woohoo! i finished up the nursery today, it feels good. even though she won't be sleeping in there, it's a nice cozy room to curl up and rock in.

Piglet: i hope your recovery is fast and you'll be holding your baby as soon as possible!

momadance: paper mache? i'll have to get some tomorrow! the instructions for a bellycast that i'd seen were for bandages with i think plaster in them, couldn't find any. can't wait to try a bellycast!

i could use a pep-talk, i guess ... other than nesting, i haven't had any signs that my body is getting ready to birth, i'm getting a little nervous about that. i'm wondering if first-time moms "get ready" later? i just keep meditating on the baby slipping lower and lower, visualizing flowers opening, all that stuff last week it felt like she had dropped, lots of hip and cervix pressure, the last 2 days she's nestled back up in my ribcage.
09-19-2004 11:57 PM
ashleep How do I get to the yahoo page? I would love to see the pictures and maybe post some too!
09-19-2004 11:02 PM
Lucysmama Yeah, the only other one I have on here is of me in a bathing suit postpartum. Yikes! I'm a photographer (well, I can't use my darkroom while pregnant, so I haven't been much of one lately!) so I am always behind the camera....we will take some birth pictures and I will post those though.

Oh, I do have one that was taken when I was 18 on my computer, but it is pretty silly.
09-19-2004 10:45 PM
momadance I almost forgot... Katie, we all love to see Lucy Beth, but your totally incognito in that pic... Although it does seem you have one of the warmest smiles ever
09-19-2004 10:27 PM
momadance Thanks for the feedback! I used a couple rolls of pre-pasted paper mache (sp?) from Michaels craft store. It's real inexpensive... I'm super happy we did one this time, coulbe our last!
09-19-2004 10:25 PM
True Blue momadance -- cast looks great! Scary about almost fainting!! What did you use to make the cast? I'd like to make one this time.
09-19-2004 07:26 PM
Court Thanks for sharing momadance! It's beautiful! You have a really nice big ole belly. The one with your ds holding it is too cute. Now I wanna make one.....
09-19-2004 05:36 PM
momadance Welcome~~~

belly cast is done and up for viewing at our yahoo page. I really like how it came out. We will be leaving it natural.

For the casting process I sat on the edge of a chair in a reclined position. After about 15-20 minutes I got very dizzy. I told Dh, and he was trying to help me up, and everything went black, and fuzzy. I could hear his voice, but my vision was bailing on me. As soon as I stood, I started to feel better, but I was SOOOOOOOOO close to passing out! Pretty scary. I passed out while ironing a shirt while pregnate with Ds, luckily no damage was done!
09-19-2004 05:07 PM
Piglet68 Hey there. Just wanted to let you know, AshleePurdie, I finally added you to the list. It will show up tomorrow when I post the new thread for this week. And I'll be adding you, too, AngelBee - welcome!

Thanks for all the great advice re: the separation. The hospital where I birthed Emily did not have this policy and she was with me just a few minutes after they wheeled me into recovery. I was able to nurse her right away. I agree, Katie, that the hospital should really try to do something about that. I'm going to find out who is the one who "decides" when I'm allowed to go to my room (and get baby) and see if I can sweet talk them into cutting the time short. Either than or I'll just lie when they give my legs the "pinprick test"...

me: "oh yes, I felt that one, I'm sure the anaesthesia has worn off now"
doc: "uh, Ms. Walker, we haven't poked you yet"
me: "see? that's how recovered I am, I could feel the proximity of the pin....can I go see my baby now??"

:LOL


Ooops, DD has a poopy dipe...gotta fly.
09-19-2004 03:59 PM
OakEmber Angela! I will be using cloth for the first time too

Awww Ann, I know it is getting so much harder to be patient, isn't it when others are becoming full term already on us
09-19-2004 02:52 PM
AnnR33 Welcome AngelBee! I'm due Oct 31 so we'll be pretty close to welcoming our babes together!

to everyone that needs it-we're getting closer though...I'm a little jealous (in a good way ) that most of you will be seeing and holding your new little angels before me! I'll be one of the the last ones-if not THE last one and I'm getting so anxious! I've still got 6 looonnnggg weeks to go!

Hang in there everyone
Ann
09-19-2004 02:27 PM
AngelBee Just wanted to say that I hope all the Oct Mamas are doing well. I am newer to the site and am expecting baby#3, Angelo Richard, edd 10/25/04. This will be my first experience with cd so we have been getting everything ready. Very exciting!

Congrats mamas! I look forward to getting to know you!
Angela
09-19-2004 02:15 PM
OakEmber Piglet- I was gonna say the exact thing as Mirthfulmum...our midwife strongly suggested doing the same if we were to end up with a c/s, and she also told DH that no one would suggest it to him so he should just do it (so maybe prepare your Dh for a few odd looks ) It really sucks that they have that policy (it seems very common, ours sounds worse b/c the midwife said that it can sometimes take 4 hrs for mom to see baby here : ) thankfully you have time to prepare for this at least, if I ended up with an emergency c/s I am sure that this is the part I would end up with the most negetive feelings towards after the fact! Ohhhh, that's so exciting that you have a date!!!!

I have such mixed days, re: comfort...sometimes I feel fine, other days I am uncomfortable...but I definately can tell a difference between this and the last time, with Ember I was walking everywhere right up to my due date...now I drive the 5 min. walk to town because just going from store to store down town is enough walking for me :LOL

Wow, Pg.8...our weekly threads seem to be getting longer and longer as we get closer!
09-19-2004 12:39 PM
Lucysmama Piglet-

I totally forgot to address your seperation with Sasha in my last post! I definitely feel for you, I was the last in my extended family to hold my dd. Yeah, having dh hold him skin-to-skin sounds great to me, lots of talking and eye contact. So sorry you have to go thru that, how frustrating! I think you should write a letter to the hospital about changing their policy - I am sure a great many moms are ripped up about this.
09-19-2004 12:21 PM
momadance Hooray for the ashleepurdie That's awesome! I can sympathize about the bm's. I've always been like that though!

We're doing our belly cast today, so hopefully i'll have some pics posted tonight or tom...

Piglet sorry about the seperation, Mirthfuls nakey on top daddy suggestion sounds great.

well, off to the supply store!

Truebluexf, enjoy being home! You have stayed amazingly positive through all of this! You're super moma!
09-19-2004 12:15 PM
True Blue Ashlee, congrats on the vertex baby, even if it means peeing a lot.

Maybe TMI, but if loose bowels are a sign labor is going to come soon, I've got my new club membership...thank goodness I'm going home today so I can get it back in order!! Gosh it's exciting and nervewracking to think I might only have a couple weeks left!!

Piglet, sorry about the separation, I hope the drugs wear off you quick so you can have him right asap!!
09-19-2004 12:10 PM
ashleep Hey there ladies! Wow! Carrying a vertex baby feels so much different! I thought I peed a lot and waddled before...jeez. Dh and I went on a long walk around the neighborhood last night and I swear, no longer than 5 minutes after we left the house (and I peed right before we left) I was seriously looking for an empty overgrown lot to pop a squat in! No complaints though! Just amusing.
Alright here's a TMI question (as if the previous paragraph wasn't TMI ):
So when you have to poop, do you get fair warning? I've never been one of those people that had to spend a long time 'working on it' sitting on the toilet, I either have to go or I don't. But a few months ago my body decided to give me about 15 seconds warning and there better be a toilet nearby or else. Kinda strange, but can anybody sympathize?
09-19-2004 11:56 AM
mirthfulmum Oh Piglet I'm so sorry to hear about the mandatory seperation. I was hoping that they had a bit of flexibility in their "policy". I was given some fabulous advice from a birth coach/doula friend of a friend when I was pregnant with Alias and there was a chance he was going to be a c-section... She told me that as soon as the baby's born to have dad take off his shirt and hold the baby to his chest in a type of nursing hold. That way the baby is hearing a familiar voice, has skin on skin contact and is bonding with a parent immediately. It was really great advice. And since Alias was vacuum extracted and I couldn't hold him immediately after birth, Dh did exactly that, took of his shirt and held Alias until I was ready, about 15 minutes, and it was wonderful. The two of them were so calm and peaceful gazing into each other's eyes. It was a moment that I will never forget and I felt calm knowing that my baby had his daddy, not some strange nurse peering down at him as he lay in a plastic baby warmer.

Gotta go, Alias is telling me that I'm done on the computer.
09-19-2004 11:14 AM
stanleymama Piglet...I feel for you too. My second was a c-sec. and I had to be separated from Aidan and dh for 1-1.5 hrs. Dh was with Aidan the whole time though and when I made it to my room I got to nurse him right away. So Everything is going to be just fine
09-19-2004 10:06 AM
3bees~1flower
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Originally Posted by Piglet68
35 weeks, 5 days
I also found out one thing that upset me: at the hospital where I'm birthing, the recovery room for cesarians hosts all surgical recovery patients, so newborns are not allowed. OB says I have to stay there until the anaesthesia wears off, about an hour. I'm very upset at having to be separated from Sasha for that long after the birth. I made DH promise to stay with him and hold him the whole time. I can't bear the thought of birthing him and then having him stuck in a plastic bucket for hours!!!! I know I'm going to get very hormonal on them if I have to wait too long to see him. I hope I recover fast (I did last time)....I was up with insomnia last night and this was the fear in my mind, that it would end up being two hours or more and I wouldn't get to nurse him, etc.....sigh. One more reason to envy you homebirthers.

Piglet....this is how my hospital is too....it's kinda frustrating, but i look at this way...at least by the time they are "done" with me the nursery should have all the stuff done they need to do with baby so that by the time you get there they won't be bugging you to do this or that....dh always goes up with the baby too so that they aren't alone with strangers. anyway, i feel ya on this...

Carrie
09-19-2004 02:30 AM
Lucysmama WOW, Piglet! It is so amazing to think you KNOW when you will be holding Sasha, and it will be so soon! Does it change everything for you at all? Are you feeling pressure about getting everything ready? What happens if you go into labor before that?

Sorry you are feeling crippled, too....but I admit that misery loves company, and I was getting worried that everyone was feeling fine but me! I also had a really easy first pregnancy, so this is kind of a surprise to me, feeling so crappy.

It's funny, at my homevisit, my midwife said, "How are you feeling?" and I said, "Like S--T! My pelvis is sore, my thighs are crampy, I am having a million contractions, and it hurts to walk!" and she grinned and said, "Great, perfect!!!!" I knew what she meant, but it was kind of odd! She said she is always so reassured to hear moms say stuff like that because she knows they are progressing nicely and their bodies are telling them their babies are almost done.

We'll have October Babies soon!!!! Awwwww!!!!
09-19-2004 02:05 AM
Piglet68 35 weeks, 5 days

The BIG NEWS: i have a date for my cesarian....it's October the 8th!! 10 days early was pushing my comfort level, but with such short notice that is what we got. OB said she prefers 8 to 10 days pre-EDD so she is happy. The thing that makes me comfortable is being very confident of my conception dates. I can't believe in three weeks I'll have a newborn!

I've got beads from mirthfulmum (hand delivered, lol), Court and OakEmber. I'll be sending mine out mid-week I hope...

I am just SO uncomfortable, and yes Katie, I feel totally pregnant-disabled. It's all I can do to walk a couple blocks now...Sasha's movements are very uncomfortable and I'm just so over being pregnant. It's funny to me to read some of you, especially the first time moms, not complaining. I was the same way with Emily and felt bad that other women in my due date club were anxious to "get it over with". Now here I am feeling the same way, and a bit guilty too. I want my stamina back!!

Amelia, I have the same fears. Emily's sleep habits were getting to the point where things were looking good, then the molars have sent us back to square one and I'm so worried about how she is going to handle a couple of nights away from me. I'm not so worried about her falling asleep - if she's up late enough she will go down with some stories I think, but the nightwaking and crying out for mama (if I happen to be peeing at the time, which of course happens alot these days) and the refusal to be comforted by DH really concerns me.

I also found out one thing that upset me: at the hospital where I'm birthing, the recovery room for cesarians hosts all surgical recovery patients, so newborns are not allowed. OB says I have to stay there until the anaesthesia wears off, about an hour. I'm very upset at having to be separated from Sasha for that long after the birth. I made DH promise to stay with him and hold him the whole time. I can't bear the thought of birthing him and then having him stuck in a plastic bucket for hours!!!! I know I'm going to get very hormonal on them if I have to wait too long to see him. I hope I recover fast (I did last time)....I was up with insomnia last night and this was the fear in my mind, that it would end up being two hours or more and I wouldn't get to nurse him, etc.....sigh. One more reason to envy you homebirthers.

Went to visit some friends this evening who have a baby (born on emily's birthday) who is about 8 weeks now. Reminded me of what I'm in store for again. Sort of panicking wondering how I'm going to handle all this with a needy toddler, but I just have to trust that I'll find my way, as I did with Emily. Luckily Emily is getting very attached to Grandma, and she will be a big help. And I suppose it's good that DH hasn't found a job yet (hasn't really been looking yet, been so busy), though I worry about blowing too much of our savings on this "time off".

Okay, it's time for me to hit the hay. Love to everybody!
09-18-2004 09:11 PM
OakEmber Court I can't believe those sneaky little beads! I am glad that mine made it too you but man, even with tape it almost didn't?!?!

Ashlee...yes, Congrats on baby turning vertex : It's the same thing here where I live, you can't even attempt a breech :
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