Mothering Forums - Reply to Topic

Thread: Reflux and sleeping Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Drag and Drop File Upload
Drag files here to attach!
Upload Progress: 0
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Mothering Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

  Topic Review (Newest First)
10-27-2007 10:38 AM
rik8144 OKay, so when DH got home he was able to put the bouncy type seat in the co-sleeper. So, DS slept in that last night and it worked GREAT! He had NO reflux all night!!! He had a good head position, no floppy head thing going on, and he slept 4.5 hours the first round!! I think we are going to keep the seat as his bed for a while....maybe this will keep him off meds! (He doesn't reflux during the day except for the occasional wet burp type thing)

Thank you to everyone who provided info for me. If things don't improve with this small change I will definately need your input!
10-27-2007 02:11 AM
ck29_2000 My little one has reflux. She's on previcid, but the magic "cure" if you will for getting her to sleep has been a happy hangup. It's like the amby but can go up to 44 lbs, so you can use it longer. She sleeps at least 5 hrs., and because it keeps her more upright no reflux episodes. Oh and it bounces so she can soothe herself back to sleep. I put hooks in the ceiling around the house so I can move her from room to room with me, might be something you want to check out.
10-26-2007 10:37 PM
mum4boys
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueIrises View Post
Here is a link about reflux and treatment of...I know you are in the medical field but there is a lot of info out there that shows that Zantac just isn't sufficient in treating reflux.

http://www.infantreflux.org/forum/
http://marci-kids.com/treatments3.html

We started with Zantac and it did little...three days on prevacid and DS was a new child. However, our son was not a spitter...he has silent reflux and would just scream in pain for hours on end...

I know the carseat works for lots of moms b/c the angle of the incline is just so...we have a wedge on our bed and in his crib and it just doesn't seem high enough...if the carseat works...stick with it until you can him feeling well or the meds worked out.

It sounds though that the current Rx isn't the right match for your son.

There is a poster here...I beleive her name is nataliasmom...and she taught me so much about reflux when I was in the midst of my reflux hell...maybe reach out to her...

The Amby bed is supposed to do miracles...
Oh my gosh I did even read ahead. Stupis me. Yes Nataliasmom is awesome she knows tons and tons but I do not think I have seen her around in a couple of months.

The amby bed is awesome. We still use it. Our miracle drug is zegerid. Nothing ever "cured" our kid's acid reflux. Within 12 hours of taking zegerid Maggie did a 180.

By the way if you email MARCI kids they will personally reply and help you. I was going to fly my daugter there and Dr. Phillips helped us via email. He is awesome. He will personally call physicians to educate them about acid reflux.
10-26-2007 10:29 PM
mum4boys
Quote:
Originally Posted by rik8144 View Post
My DS has reflux....DD didn't.....anyway, every night it is such a struggle to help him get a good nights sleep. I don't think it is related to anything I am eating...it happens no matter what I eat! During the day he sleeps in his swing or chair but at night he either sleeps in the co-sleeper or right next to me. Every night he has reflux so bad it comes out of his nose and makes him choke...which makes me jump and have a small heart attack. This happens once or twice a night. So last night I put his car seat in the co-sleeper and covered the buckles with a blanket and let him sleep in there. Presto! No more reflux and a quiet few hours of sleep.

Anyone else deal with this? Is there anything else I can do to help him? I work in the NICU and there we automatically start Reglan and then add Zantac if needed. I would like to fix this without meds but will be glad to go there if needed....I feel so bad for him!
WHAT you automatically start Reglan you are kidding? What hospital is this? Why in the world would a Pro-Motility Drug be used for reflux? Do you know how outdated that is since all the latest studies show it is rarely if ever useful. I am just in shock that there are doctors out there using this drug for reflux.

Depending on your baby the car seat could be the absolute worst position. Its good for some babies bad for others. Okay I am done reading its good for your baby. The only way to find out if its related to what you are eating is to do TEDS. It takes 3 weeks or so of being on TEDS to figure out what food it could be.

There are some really good acid reflux sites out there.

http://www.marci-kids.com/http://www.marci-kids.com/

http://www.infantreflux.org/forum/


A wedge or tucker sling might help you.

Just so you know there is lots of research out there that shows babies with reflux left untreated that there can be long term consequences. Of course there is no way in heck I would give my baby Reglan or Zantac. Liquid zantac is has alcohol in it and it burns. Its like drinking Listerine with strep throat.

Good luck Mama. By the way I have been down this road with 5 kids. Everyone here knows the troubles we have had with our last baby. Two hospitalizations etc. Come to find out my kids' their reflux is caused from Celiac's disease.
10-26-2007 10:02 PM
BlueIrises Here is a link about reflux and treatment of...I know you are in the medical field but there is a lot of info out there that shows that Zantac just isn't sufficient in treating reflux.

http://www.infantreflux.org/forum/
http://marci-kids.com/treatments3.html

We started with Zantac and it did little...three days on prevacid and DS was a new child. However, our son was not a spitter...he has silent reflux and would just scream in pain for hours on end...

I know the carseat works for lots of moms b/c the angle of the incline is just so...we have a wedge on our bed and in his crib and it just doesn't seem high enough...if the carseat works...stick with it until you can him feeling well or the meds worked out.

It sounds though that the current Rx isn't the right match for your son.

There is a poster here...I beleive her name is nataliasmom...and she taught me so much about reflux when I was in the midst of my reflux hell...maybe reach out to her...

The Amby bed is supposed to do miracles...
10-26-2007 03:44 PM
preemiemamarach
Quote:
Originally Posted by rik8144 View Post
Ok....just tried to put the bouncy seat into the co-sleeper and it doesn't fit. I don't want to put him on the floor in the seat because I like to roll over and see him right there. DH's oldest brother died of SIDS at 5 months old and I am a paranoid mother who likes to see her children sleeping. We have DD in our bed between us (20 months). I like the co-sleeper I just can't have him choking once or twice a night! I wonder if I could get my dr to call in a script???
Ack, sorry the bouncy in the cosleeper was a no-go. I totally understand about having eyes-on...we just recently got to the point where I wasn't compelled to get up and look *in* the pack and play (a mere 18 inches from me) every 5 minutes during naptime.

Your pedi may very well call in a script, if you decide to go that route. Mine did when we switched from dissolvable tabs to suspension powder- I dunno if it's because he's seen DS so many times, or because he knows I'm a former pedi nurse and recognize the symptoms.

Good luck to you both!!
10-26-2007 03:25 PM
elanorh Is there a way you could elevate the head of the cosleeper itself? They sell reflux wedges which could elevate things at least a little for him, and they work in cosleepers too.

I slept with Ina propped against my arm/shoulder and that kept her well elevated. I also slept with her propped in my lap in the armchair, too.

She slept well in the carseat (buckled in); some do, some don't. It depends on the particular kid and particular car seat. She slept most nights in her car seat 'til she was almost 6 months old.

Our reflux was exacerbated by food allergies. If you see any signs of those definitely consider that first. In fact, I've known women online whose babies' only allergy symptom WAS reflux, who found that by cutting dairy and sometimes soy too, the reflux was gone entirely. But for us we needed Zantac at max dosage and reglan too as well.

We definitely avoided (and still avoid) meds; but for Ina's reflux, we had to use them and they made a huge difference. I say try all the environmental approaches you can, but if they don't work (or not enough), then consider meds for sure. Reflux is awful.
10-26-2007 01:48 PM
rik8144 Ok....just tried to put the bouncy seat into the co-sleeper and it doesn't fit. I don't want to put him on the floor in the seat because I like to roll over and see him right there. DH's oldest brother died of SIDS at 5 months old and I am a paranoid mother who likes to see her children sleeping. We have DD in our bed between us (20 months). I like the co-sleeper I just can't have him choking once or twice a night! I wonder if I could get my dr to call in a script???
10-26-2007 01:00 PM
rik8144 Funny thing....when I put him on his back he rolls to his side to sleep! Maybe I will try the bouncy seat today for nap time. If I need to I will go to meds...I just want him to get a good nights sleep. I feel so bad for the poor guy! One thing though, we don't go back to the ped until Nov 28 so I would have to wait a month unless I want to sched a sick visit for this....which I don't want to do since we would have to go into the sick side waiting area! I wonder if they would call in a script for him??

Thanks for the responses!
10-26-2007 12:43 PM
preemiemamarach I'm so sorry you're dealing with reflux- I am, too, and the ONLY thing that worked for us was medication (prevacid). I'm a former PICU nurse, and in my unit we started wtih zantac, then reglan (for acute kids) or prevacid (for chronic kids). I tried every non-pharm intervention I could, but the only thing that cleared up the problem for my DS was the prevacid, in the correct dose. Now he's a changed baby.

He also sleeps at night in his cradle swing, which helps tremendously. He gets in bed with us after his last feeding, if we sleep later than that (around 5 AM), but usually sleeps on his side because back sleeping causes him to reflux and choke, like your LO.

Will your bouncy chair fit in the cosleeper? I ask because I was told by one of our NICU nurses that carseats tend to tip the neck too far forward. DS stays asleep in his carseat after a long car ride, but that's it.

I'm a lot less anti-med than most of the mamas here, especially when my DS was in such obvious pain and is now happy. Reflux is no joke!

(FWIW, my LO only got to sleep on his side like that when he started having head control, in case anyone was about to freak and flame me.)
10-26-2007 12:38 PM
SandraS Try putting him on his tummy to sleep at night. It alleviates gas/reflux pains and is ten times more comfy anyways. Good luck!
10-26-2007 12:01 PM
rik8144 My DS has reflux....DD didn't.....anyway, every night it is such a struggle to help him get a good nights sleep. I don't think it is related to anything I am eating...it happens no matter what I eat! During the day he sleeps in his swing or chair but at night he either sleeps in the co-sleeper or right next to me. Every night he has reflux so bad it comes out of his nose and makes him choke...which makes me jump and have a small heart attack. This happens once or twice a night. So last night I put his carseat in the co-sleeper and covered the buckles with a blanket and let him sleep in there. Presto! No more reflux and a quiet few hours of sleep.

Anyone else deal with this? Is there anything else I can do to help him? I work in the NICU and there we automatically start Reglan and then add Zantac if needed. I would like to fix this without meds but will be glad to go there if needed....I feel so bad for him!

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off