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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:19 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Bow, this thread is typical of the back and forth...

Bow, this thread is typical of the back and forth discussions on the HPV vaccines.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:07 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,770
Posted By Deborah
for Bow: This thread also mentions Helen, but in...

for Bow: This thread also mentions Helen, but in this case she is simply an HPV vaccine defender.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:04 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,313
Posted By Deborah
for Bow, here is one of the threads discussing...

for Bow, here is one of the threads discussing Helen Petousis-Harris.
As I said, it was just ignored.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:59 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 713
Posted By Deborah
I think those allegations have been brought up on...

I think those allegations have been brought up on this board.

What you need to get is that there are only two or three vaccine supporters who are regularly (but rarely) participating in...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 03:13 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,101
Posted By Deborah
If insults will raise the flu vaccine rates, then...

If insults will raise the flu vaccine rates, then insults are what we'll get. These people are nothing if not dedicated...even fanatical!
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 02:10 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,101
Posted By Deborah
However, if you read past the middle of the...

However, if you read past the middle of the article, they offer some useful advice going beyond the "fool" shot.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 01:58 PM
Replies: 58
Views: 1,824
Posted By Deborah
alas and alack, we've heard variations of that...

alas and alack, we've heard variations of that very argument in this very joint.

Besides, if we refuse to have the book in the library, we can also refuse to get it via interlibrary loan. and in...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:11 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 713
Posted By Deborah
The Nordic Cochrane Complaint was brought up...

The Nordic Cochrane Complaint was brought up recently so I'll bump this thread up again.

Sad.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:19 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 252
Posted By Deborah
Since I was born into an alternative health,...

Since I was born into an alternative health, non-vaccinating family I can't quite see it as a social circle. Little kids don't see their parents in that way.

When I was a young mother I was...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:54 PM
Replies: 58
Views: 1,824
Posted By Deborah
This one from Australia is interesting. Totally...

This one from Australia is interesting. Totally pro-vaccine. But confused as to why doctors aren't accurately diagnosing whooping cough, why there aren't clear rules on treatment or quarantine, and...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:14 PM
Replies: 58
Views: 1,824
Posted By Deborah
More pro-vaccine bunk!...

More pro-vaccine bunk! http://standardspeaker.com/news/weatherly-schools-warn-parents-of-whooping-cough-1.2158913



How many thousands of cases are diagnosed every single year in vaccinated...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:55 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,101
Posted By Deborah
I'm bringing up this thread because it is...

I'm bringing up this thread because it is relevant to two current topics

1) A vaccine increasing the death rate in infants. There seems to be some evidence that getting the flu vaccine two years...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:32 PM
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Views: 189
Posted By Deborah
He might say that, but it wouldn't make any sense.

He might say that, but it wouldn't make any sense.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:12 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 375
Posted By Deborah
Wow! Thanks for sharing all that Bow.

Wow! Thanks for sharing all that Bow.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2017, 04:17 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 375
Posted By Deborah
I should read that book... Poul Thorsen I...

I should read that book...

Poul Thorsen I think. Who is his significant other? Besides his beloved motorcycle, bought with taxpayer money, of course.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2017, 03:25 PM
Replies: 172
Views: 6,679
Posted By Deborah
An interesting article on ways in which the naive...

An interesting article on ways in which the naive are encouraged to overlook relevant and helpful scientific research....
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2017, 02:52 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 2,608
Posted By Deborah
Another side to the problems with the vaccine...

Another side to the problems with the vaccine paradigm is the way it distorts public discussions and practices around:

1) education - with calls to withdraw the right to education to families that...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   02-25-2017, 02:12 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 667
Posted By Deborah
Let's just consider this a learning experience...

Let's just consider this a learning experience all around.

I will say that if Google wants to be considered a respectable information source, they need to be transparent about how they manage...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2017, 02:09 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 375
Posted By Deborah
According to teacozy, all the relevant documents...

According to teacozy, all the relevant documents have been released (10,000 pages) and Orac and friends have read all of them and there is nothing there to support any concerns about vaccine safety. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2017, 02:07 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 542
Posted By Deborah
We had another thread where this was discussed....

We had another thread where this was discussed. The vaccine supporters found some mostly irrelevant errors in the document and dismissed the whole thing. Oh well.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2017, 02:04 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 189
Posted By Deborah
from Mirzam's link in previous post. Hey,...

from Mirzam's link in previous post.

Hey, according to Mina that is what getting measles does. Although the real world evidence doesn't support Mina's premise. Here we have real world data showing...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-24-2017, 05:57 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 178
Posted By Deborah
Early outbreak of fatal coincidence disorder

http://www.ebiomedicine.com/article/S2352-3964(17)30046-4/abstract?cc=y=

Tragic.
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   02-24-2017, 05:41 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 667
Posted By Deborah
Thanks for clarifying your thinking. I agree with...

Thanks for clarifying your thinking. I agree with Turquesa, that there is a difference between a particular web-site or discussion forum having clear rules about what can or cannot be discussed...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   02-24-2017, 05:27 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 667
Posted By Deborah
One of the bits that makes me uncomfortable about...

One of the bits that makes me uncomfortable about the general stances being taken by pro-vaccine forces is manipulation of definitions. Censorship isn't censorship, even if it makes some information...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-24-2017, 05:04 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 542
Posted By Deborah
Actual reports of actual adverse events can be...

Actual reports of actual adverse events can be dismissed in several ways.

They weren't documented in any of the BIG studies run by the drug company that makes the vaccine.

They were reported...
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