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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:29 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I'll insert responses in blue. The...

I'll insert responses in blue.



The big question with paralytic polio is whether it exists at all without provocation. This is the most obvious reason that acute flaccid paralysis cases rise...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:17 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Excellent example. I guess what I'm working...

Excellent example.

I guess what I'm working on is the question of what might make a parent begin to have doubts about the entire vaccine paradigm. Being told that fewer jabs makes vaccination...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:06 AM
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Posted By Deborah
This problem has come up in a thread in INV so...

This problem has come up in a thread in INV so I'm reposting one of the relevant statements (sorry, I made it) and boosting the thread.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 08:05 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Anyone remember when US trains had "firemen" who...

Anyone remember when US trains had "firemen" who had been the guys who shoveled coal to keep the trains going? But then they stopped running coal fired trains. So what happened to the firemen? They...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 07:24 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Another reason why the CDC can always express...

Another reason why the CDC can always express concern about something--the newer vaccines added to the schedule in recent years never quite make their goals....
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 06:48 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Has anyone noticed all the news stories about...

Has anyone noticed all the news stories about high vaccination rates in the US

Here is an example:...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 06:30 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 279
Posted By Deborah
On the other hand, the rate of acute flaccid...

On the other hand, the rate of acute flaccid paralysis has shot up in Nigeria.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 06:30 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 279
Posted By Deborah
Plus, of course, the chances of developing...

Plus, of course, the chances of developing paralytic polio, even if you did manage to get exposed are fairly low.

How many cases of polio resulted from his 28 years of shedding?
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 06:29 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 279
Posted By Deborah
As one of the billions of people who was actually...

As one of the billions of people who was actually exposed to wild polio and who obviously developed natural immunity, no, I'm not personally worried.

Nor am I worried about any of the unvaxed kids...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 06:25 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 152
Posted By Deborah
So you are waiting for evidence around...

So you are waiting for evidence around profitability of vaccines and the influence of money on mandates and so on? Easy to find, just read the business press.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 12:56 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 1,488
Posted By Deborah
A much stronger vaccine defender has shown up and...

A much stronger vaccine defender has shown up and is making a dent in the debate. After all, anyone who thinks that their daughter is vaccine damaged is biased and nothing they say can be trusted.
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Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 12:43 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 279
Posted By Deborah
I think some pro-vaxers really do believe in...

I think some pro-vaxers really do believe in coincidence following HPV vaccines.

but it is interesting to see pro-vaccine people in RI getting angry about the HPV vaccine mandate.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 12:12 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 279
Posted By Deborah
I don't think we are treating this situation with...

I don't think we are treating this situation with the concern which it deserves.

Although I have to admit that I'm much more interested in Rhode Island and the HPV vaccine mandate story.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 12:04 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 279
Posted By Deborah
you mean poo-pooped it, don't you? Sorry,...

you mean poo-pooped it, don't you?

Sorry, couldn't resist!>:D
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 11:58 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 156
Posted By Deborah
Yeah, I was hoping it wasn't carelessness on the...

Yeah, I was hoping it wasn't carelessness on the doctor's part. But it could have been. :crying:
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 11:57 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 279
Posted By Deborah
I couldn't see any thing to discuss. Not the...

I couldn't see any thing to discuss. Not the first example of long-term shedding of the poliovirus from the vaccine.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 11:56 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 152
Posted By Deborah
Absolutely right. This one story proves that...

Absolutely right. This one story proves that there is absolutely no greed anywhere in the vaccine program from top to bottom and around the globe. What a relief!
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 11:43 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 156
Posted By Deborah
Child was 12 MONTHS old, so getting it on the...

Child was 12 MONTHS old, so getting it on the usual schedule. Perhaps the mother hadn't realized she was pregnant at the time for the appointment?
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 07:21 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 257
Posted By Deborah
This one is even surlier....

This one is even surlier. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/04/the-case-against-breast-feeding/307311/

Actually, there is something very interesting in this article. She discusses...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2015, 07:18 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 257
Posted By Deborah
There are definitely mothers who feel abused by...

There are definitely mothers who feel abused by enthusiastic breastfeeders. http://www.centralillinoisproud.com/news/top-local-news/pressure-to-breastfeed-sometimes-too-much-for-new-moms
Forum: Vaccinations   08-28-2015, 05:58 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 257
Posted By Deborah
I hadn't thought of that. I agree about team...

I hadn't thought of that. I agree about team breastfeeding, etc. I would be pleased with any mother who breastfed, but feel bad if I was obligated to attack mothers who did not. Because encouraging...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-28-2015, 05:55 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Ha! All of their pledges should make them blush...

Ha! All of their pledges should make them blush purple!

See, most of the newspaper stories are based on the CDC stuff, so if there is massive misinformation being spread around they should be held...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-28-2015, 04:28 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Another example of how distorted the pro-vaccine...

Another example of how distorted the pro-vaccine media can be: http://www.ageofautism.com/2015/08/jeffrey-kluger-is-it-time-to-really-investigate-the-vaccine-issue.html The article being discussed...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-28-2015, 04:11 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 257
Posted By Deborah
Does the CDC have a real problem?

https://leviquackenboss.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/thanks-for-teamvax-cdc/

I thought this might make an interesting discussion--is this ad campaign a mistake for the CDC? Why or why not?
Forum: Vaccinations   08-28-2015, 03:47 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Turquesa and kathymuggle you are both quite...

Turquesa and kathymuggle you are both quite definitely right, there is a lot of misinformation coming from vaccine critics.

A big part of my criticism of the pro-vaccine material is that these...
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