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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:48 AM
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Posted By Deborah
In the US there has been publicity about...

In the US there has been publicity about improperly stored vaccines and expired vaccines and in both cases they were still being used. Until they got caught.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:45 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 868
Posted By Deborah
One of the pieces I find most horrifying about...

One of the pieces I find most horrifying about the vaccine debate is the flat denial (not here) of vaccine reactions, especially if they are more serious.

I'll say again, that a system that...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:47 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 343
Posted By Deborah
I've seen special courses for doctors on...

I've seen special courses for doctors on persuading parents to allow vaccines and adults to go along with getting "their" vaccines.

I'm still looking for the continuing education course for...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:43 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 378
Posted By Deborah
I'm just darned glad that my grandchildren were...

I'm just darned glad that my grandchildren were born at home and minimally vaccinated.

Also, some vaccines are manufactured using thimerosal which is then "removed". All the testing to make sure...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:02 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 343
Posted By Deborah
I watched the video. Dr. Offit claims that...

I watched the video.

Dr. Offit claims that the only way to figure out if the mercury in vaccines is risky is through epidemiological studies. Toxicological studies aren't useful. Animal studies...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:15 AM
Replies: 268
Views: 2,954
Posted By Deborah
Can you offer up some examples in the last five...

Can you offer up some examples in the last five years of someone successfully doing research showing problems with, say, GMOs or a hugely popular and lucrative class of drug?

It is nice to say...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   Yesterday, 07:53 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 372
Posted By Deborah
One reason for a rise in auto-immune disease is...

One reason for a rise in auto-immune disease is that over-use of antibiotics is changing our bodily population of bacteria. Since bacteria play an important role in the operation of our immune...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:00 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 868
Posted By Deborah
When it comes to vaccines, the rule is that the...

When it comes to vaccines, the rule is that the patient is defective, the vaccine is safe.

I remember a medical journal article from the early part of the 20th century looking at cases of tetanus...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:57 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 378
Posted By Deborah
I'm not sure. I do know that the numbers have...

I'm not sure. I do know that the numbers have been released very slowly over the last several years.

It should be possible to look up the reports on the CDC site and look at the dates and...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:55 AM
Replies: 268
Views: 2,954
Posted By Deborah
So, the practical question is whether the system...

So, the practical question is whether the system of open debate in science still works? Not in general, but in relation to situations where there is a lot of money supporting one side and no money...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 02:59 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 868
Posted By Deborah
It did take over 3 years. Even though it seems...

It did take over 3 years. Even though it seems like a quite straightforward situation.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 02:31 PM
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Views: 868
Posted By Deborah
Very rare. A court decision isn't science. ...

Very rare.

A court decision isn't science.

It is okay because it is very rare.

She got too many vaccines at one time.

It really was a coincidence but the court decided to be kind.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 02:10 PM
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Views: 868
Posted By Deborah
Well, he probably was investigated a bit to see...

Well, he probably was investigated a bit to see if he bashed her or put a pillow over her head. Just in case it wasn't the vaccines.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 02:04 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 868
Posted By Deborah
He might have a different opinion if he and his...

He might have a different opinion if he and his wife had been hung out to dry by the program. It is very sad, basically, but he can provide her with the care she needs. So he believes that the system...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 01:59 PM
Replies: 268
Views: 2,954
Posted By Deborah
Finished watching the movie. Interesting...

Finished watching the movie.

Interesting commentary on the lack of independent science right around 1:05 and onward.

There is a lot of different points at which problems with science are...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 01:03 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 868
Posted By Deborah
Spontaneous brain damage happens all the time.

Spontaneous brain damage happens all the time.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 01:01 PM
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Views: 378
Posted By Deborah
I think the primary point to keep in mind is that...

I think the primary point to keep in mind is that the CDC has NOT released numbers on rates of autism in children vaccinated after the thimerosal free and thimerosal reduced vaccines began to be...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 12:57 PM
Replies: 268
Views: 2,954
Posted By Deborah
Walker-Smith was cleared of any wrong-doing on...

Walker-Smith was cleared of any wrong-doing on treating the children for their gastro problems. That judgement seriously undermines any of Deer's claims that the children weren't actually ill and...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 12:55 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 277
Posted By Deborah
I'm hugely concerned about the Pentavalent...

I'm hugely concerned about the Pentavalent vaccine push. I've been reading Puliyel on the topic for years. I think GAVI serves the drug companies.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 08:36 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 277
Posted By Deborah
Well, I've heard about both problems, but I...

Well, I've heard about both problems, but I follow vaccine news very close.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-28-2015, 08:35 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 868
Posted By Deborah
Obviously, just a coincidence. Note that...

Obviously, just a coincidence.

Note that they don't actually state that the vaccines CAUSED the brain damage.

Vaccines are very safe.

There, I've saved our pro-vaccine posters some time...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 05:04 PM
Replies: 100
Views: 1,289
Posted By Deborah
Thinking that a vaccine is super protective can...

Thinking that a vaccine is super protective can be super dangerous for vaccinated children. And thinking that unvaxed children are likely to have rare and weird diseases just because they are unvaxed...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 06:50 AM
Replies: 103
Views: 1,313
Posted By Deborah
This strikes me as another attempt to derail the...

This strikes me as another attempt to derail the thread.

Seems pretty obvious that:

1) Contaminating polio vaccines with a virus was a big mistake and left millions of people as carriers of...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 03:52 PM
Replies: 103
Views: 1,313
Posted By Deborah
I'm a librarian and I don't believe in Google...

I'm a librarian and I don't believe in Google University either.

But there are plenty of aspects of the science which can be discussed by laypeople. And this isn't just about science. It is about...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 03:45 PM
Replies: 100
Views: 1,289
Posted By Deborah
This story is a good example of bad medical...

This story is a good example of bad medical practice.

If a child may have been exposed to measles, then test for measles. Vaxed or not. Ditto adults.
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