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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 01:32 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Someone in the know told me what is supposedly...

Someone in the know told me what is supposedly behind all this flu vaccine pushing.

The story goes as follows:

The public health establishment has major concerns about the possibility of a...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:54 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 936
Posted By Deborah
Yeah. I analyzed two of those articles in detail...

Yeah. I analyzed two of those articles in detail a few years ago.

The authors of one consistently inflated the risks and likelihood of illness and consistently deflated and underestimated the...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:51 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 247
Posted By Deborah
If they had not been receiving injections, for...

If they had not been receiving injections, for whatever reason, they would not have died.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:28 AM
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Views: 2,375
Posted By Deborah
And here is an analysis by Dr. Yazbak...

And here is an analysis by Dr. Yazbak http://www.fourteenstudies.org/MMR_3_details.html

Once again, I'd like to point out that even though this is just one study, the criticisms directed at it are...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:19 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,375
Posted By Deborah
http://www.dspq.qc.ca/ More evidence that...

http://www.dspq.qc.ca/

More evidence that this is not the Provincial Health Department.

The full study is available as a pdf from here http://www.fourteenstudies.org/studies.html

It is...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:49 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,375
Posted By Deborah
I'll try and find a link to the actual study. ...

I'll try and find a link to the actual study.

Sorry! I didn't mean that as a personal criticism, I was just puzzled.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:48 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 247
Posted By Deborah
Injections are risky. There are a lot of...

Injections are risky. There are a lot of possibilities for errors, some dangerous. The assumption that vaccinations have only a minor degree of risk disregards the fact that injections are risky....
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:23 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,375
Posted By Deborah
http://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/en/index.php ...

http://www.msss.gouv.qc.ca/en/index.php

where I found the link: Québec.

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/images/common/newwindow.gif Santé et Services Sociaux...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:53 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 936
Posted By Deborah
Just to make it absolutely clear, I'm saying that...

Just to make it absolutely clear, I'm saying that those who promote vaccines are cherry-picking their measles complications statistics to make the vaccine look safe in comparison.

When you...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:48 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 936
Posted By Deborah
According to the "authorities" vaccine reactions...

According to the "authorities" vaccine reactions are so rare as to be not worth quantifying. Although, even if reactions are "one in a million" if that is one in a million doses, and if each vaccine...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 07:34 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,317
Posted By Deborah
It can be very educational to observe which...

It can be very educational to observe which disasters make the news and which do not.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 07:33 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 126
Posted By Deborah
I love this: from the link in the previous post....

I love this: from the link in the previous post.

Merck being described as reckless is delightful.

I wonder if this is their new strategy under development?
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 07:29 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 379
Posted By Deborah
I think that the Pink Book is still a valid...

I think that the Pink Book is still a valid source.

And I think it is incredibly effective to take stuff from the public immunization pages at the CDC and put them next to the data from the Pink...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 08:16 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 379
Posted By Deborah
An interesting area for comparison is the battle...

An interesting area for comparison is the battle over shaken baby syndrome, renamed Abusive Head Trauma.

Increasing number of overturned legal cases haven't shaken the dogma at all, but the...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 07:18 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 379
Posted By Deborah
I have private sources I use and as often as...

I have private sources I use and as often as possible I go to the actual medical literature. When I do cite a study I try to make sure I understand what they are talking about.

This is a...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 07:14 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,317
Posted By Deborah
kathymuggle wrote: If there isn't a...

kathymuggle wrote:

If there isn't a vaccine, then the illness will be treated as okay if at all possible. If there is a vaccine in development (see Ebola) then the illness is a world crisis and...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-15-2014, 06:52 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 936
Posted By Deborah
It is sort of pathetic that when scientists and...

It is sort of pathetic that when scientists and health-care professionals try to raise awareness of possible risks/problems with vaccines they have to sort of use coded language and slide little...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-14-2014, 06:54 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 936
Posted By Deborah
Yeah. Any two-sided discussion of vaccines in a...

Yeah. Any two-sided discussion of vaccines in a public space will be shut down if at all possible. MDC and, to a small extent, places like Facebook, are some of the only places left where both sides...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-14-2014, 04:41 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 936
Posted By Deborah
As a healthy survivor of measles, mumps,...

As a healthy survivor of measles, mumps, chickenpox, whooping cough, rubella and probably non-clinical polio (since I was born in 1950 and lived all over the US. I don't see how I could have missed...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-14-2014, 12:54 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 269
Posted By Deborah
Yeah, in "scientific" studies it always looks...

Yeah, in "scientific" studies it always looks like the unvaxed are immensely likely to get whooping cough, but in real life there are outbreaks where EVERYONE is vaxed.

The problem for the...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-14-2014, 08:11 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 936
Posted By Deborah
Thank you. I think it should have been titled...

Thank you. I think it should have been titled "Selling more Shots".
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-13-2014, 08:04 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 261
Posted By Deborah
Speaking as an active participant in the...

Speaking as an active participant in the political side of the vaccine wars, there is no safe haven and exemptions will be under attack in every state no matter how quiet people are.

We all need...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-13-2014, 06:36 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,753
Posted By Deborah
When courts rule AGAINST vaccination it doesn't...

When courts rule AGAINST vaccination it doesn't count, just a court case. When they rule in FAVOR of vaccination it is based on sound science and testimony and should be taken seriously.

We really...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-12-2014, 07:38 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,753
Posted By Deborah
It wasn't Merck that Wakefield was up against....

It wasn't Merck that Wakefield was up against. Glaxo Smith Kline, I believe. This is an older article, but it does tell us where the vaccine comes from...
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Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-12-2014, 02:46 PM
Replies: 7
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Views: 467
Posted By Deborah
They could make necessary points without being...

They could make necessary points without being nasty. I think they've developed bad habits from the vaccination debate.
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