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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 04:51 PM
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Kathy

Kathy
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:34 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Here is one study that discusses waning immunity....

Here is one study that discusses waning immunity. I know one is not enough to go on, but it is a start:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905323/

o evaluate the population immunity...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:24 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
"Since the mid-1990s, no age group has...

"Since the mid-1990s, no age group has predominated
among reported cases of measles. Relative to earlier
decades, an increased proportion of cases now occur
among adults. In 1973, persons 20...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 11:59 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I am going to push back slightly against the idea...

I am going to push back slightly against the idea of taking newborns into very public, crowded places.

Pertussis and the flu are dangerous in newborns and both are endemic (although the flu has...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 11:37 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
It is a hypothetical - although good point on...

It is a hypothetical - although good point on knowing whether the cream treated the symptom or the cause.

Really - I was trying to get at the heart of what everyone though "effective" meant in...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 10:07 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Hi, I am going to give you a mini history...

Hi,


I am going to give you a mini history lesson as I see it. I think it might help you understand why there is such animosity on these threads. If anyone wants to add anything, please feel...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:29 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Bolding mine. It isn't pretending to say...

Bolding mine.


It isn't pretending to say the effectiveness rate is 50%. We could absolutely shoots stats back and forth, but 50-60% sounds right. I would accept 60% if you like, but anything...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:13 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
what should effective mean to you?

So...clear your mind and put aside any cynicism you have on drugs and their efficacy.

You have an itchy rash. You show it to the doctor and he or she says - take this cream, it is effective...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:00 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I think there might be (not by you, just in...

I think there might be (not by you, just in general) a sort of deliberate deception going on, or at least using a word in a way that fits an agenda without taking into account how it is going to be...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 05:42 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Non-vax, part time job, children in teens. Voted...

Non-vax, part time job, children in teens. Voted other.

If you are trying to figure out if one group just has more time than other, I think you might need to add in family size and if they...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:13 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
A skeptic blog has covered the issue. It has got...

A skeptic blog has covered the issue. It has got to be one of the lamest articles written on a skeptic blog, and that is saying a lot. It essentially amounts to Thompson is lying, with no proof...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:08 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I somewhat agree with the first statement. It...

I somewhat agree with the first statement. It is unspecific and it is used primary with the general public. I have read a decent amount of scientific studies, and scientists do not generally speak...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 04:56 PM
Replies: 142
Views: 2,676
Posted By kathymuggle
You are very gracious. Sortacrispy...

You are very gracious.

Sortacrispy responded to some of the major questions but not all (which is fine :)) thus I think bumping was acceptable. To each their own.

I obviously cannot make...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 04:19 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I went searching to see if there were any levels...

I went searching to see if there were any levels of efficacy or safety that had to be met for drugs to be called safe and effective...and thus far I am not coming up with much.

I am not coming up...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 02:37 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I have never said effective means 100%...but it...

I have never said effective means 100%...but it should mean "better than zero" especially if people are going to say "scientific consensus is vaccines are effective" as some sort of pro-vaccine...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 01:10 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 675
Posted By kathymuggle
I am not sure what site you are on - but many do...

I am not sure what site you are on - but many do the same thing: say Hooker's study was retracted without ever addressing the real issue - that Thompson, a senior researcher at the CDC says...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 11:21 AM
Replies: 142
Views: 2,676
Posted By kathymuggle
Dawn...I am a little confused by your post. ...

Dawn...I am a little confused by your post.


Do you think it is inappropriate to drop names? I think it can be. I do not think people in support forums should quote or name drop anything said...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 09:34 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 675
Posted By kathymuggle
Another thread to keep near the top. ...

Another thread to keep near the top.


Lurkers - newbies - anybody need some background on this issue?
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 08:38 AM
Replies: 142
Views: 2,676
Posted By kathymuggle
We have a lot of threads on MDC where we complain...

We have a lot of threads on MDC where we complain about the other sides posting behaviour. Those are not typically helpful. Seeing as this is basically a call out thread about a particular...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 08:27 AM
Replies: 175
Views: 3,943
Posted By kathymuggle
The Famous Post 93: Quote: "Originally...

The Famous Post 93:

Quote:
"Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
Because, as I pointed out elsewhere on one of these threads, and will point out again, the scientific consensus on vaccines...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-30-2015, 06:46 AM
Replies: 142
Views: 2,676
Posted By kathymuggle
The questions on the living whole thread are...

The questions on the living whole thread are foundational questions to the very oft repeated "scientific consensus is vaccines are safe and effective". They address how to define safe and...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-29-2015, 08:48 AM
Replies: 145
Views: 3,311
Posted By kathymuggle
This makes a bit more sense. Videos can be...

This makes a bit more sense.

Videos can be made by 2 sorts:

1. People you trust. You consider them credible for one reason or anther (I think it should go beyond just letters after their...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-29-2015, 08:12 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 681
Posted By kathymuggle
Just curious - was the response you got from the...

Just curious - was the response you got from the White House in response to the petition? If so, the response is expected...but how annoying not to address the reason for the petition.

If it was...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-29-2015, 07:54 AM
Replies: 145
Views: 3,311
Posted By kathymuggle
Oooh...Ick. Yes. As a meat minimalist (don't...

Oooh...Ick. Yes. As a meat minimalist (don't ask) and someone who has 2 children who are vegetarian, I very much would like to know if some produce has fish DNA injected into them. I will look...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-29-2015, 07:48 AM
Replies: 145
Views: 3,311
Posted By kathymuggle
The fact they have developed them and could use...

The fact they have developed them and could use them is problematic enough.



I am going to say this once, and then I will give up. It is meant as constructive criticism, and is hardly a...
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