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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:43 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 905
Posted By kathymuggle
Bumping in case this got missed amidst the...

Bumping in case this got missed amidst the trumped up charge of conspiracy theory.

Tea?
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:38 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 905
Posted By kathymuggle
Did you even read what I wrote? It was your...

Did you even read what I wrote? It was your point to make, and because context is often an issue in quotes, I asked for the primary source.

You quoted wiki (not a great source)
the wiki led to...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:33 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 905
Posted By kathymuggle
Well, my question was specifically for tea, as...

Well, my question was specifically for tea, as she seemed to imply it was inappropriate that Dr. Sears suggested we keep quiet, when that is what virtually all pro-vaxxers want.

I do not mind...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:15 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 905
Posted By kathymuggle
So, went to the Wiki entry, and it led to a salon...

So, went to the Wiki entry, and it led to a salon article. Salon and I are not friends when it comes to vaccines, and I do not always find them credible.

That being said, this is the quote from...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:35 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 236
Posted By kathymuggle
Quote: "Big pharma is evil: I would agree with...

Quote:
"Big pharma is evil: I would agree with the premise. But because people don't understand exactly how big pharma is evil, their anger and indignation get diverted away from valid criticisms []...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:17 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 905
Posted By kathymuggle
Direct quote and page number, please? Thx.

Direct quote and page number, please? Thx.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:40 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 3,147
Posted By kathymuggle
As long as you do not try and argue that I should...

As long as you do not try and argue that I should have to vaccinate to participate in society, then that is fine. I can think you are misguided, you can think I am misguided, and we can all move on.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:10 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 3,147
Posted By kathymuggle
Oh….I don't pretend to know more than...

Oh….I don't pretend to know more than scientists…..I do claim that I have a different focus than them (my child) and that with very few exceptions I should have the last word on what medical...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:04 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 3,147
Posted By kathymuggle
You do not seem to be giving yourself very much...

You do not seem to be giving yourself very much credit.

I can understand whatever I put my mind to. Some things take longer than others to understand, some have a steep learning curve,...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:22 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 905
Posted By kathymuggle
That really isn't the point, though. The point...

That really isn't the point, though. The point is: what is safer today- to be vaxxed or unvaxxed?



Parents today need to use todays figures from the country they live in while doing risk...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-01-2015, 08:00 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 414
Posted By kathymuggle
I suspect it is just and age/gender thing. ...

I suspect it is just and age/gender thing. Autoimmune disorders are more common in women of child-bearinging. Teen girls. Of course, one should be able to compare teen girls with the HPV vaccine...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-28-2015, 12:52 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 507
Posted By kathymuggle
OK…but nobody has run you off. Forums have...

OK…but nobody has run you off. Forums have rules that make for respectful and peaceful posting, and your question is probably better suited to the debate forum, where you are welcome to post.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-27-2015, 08:01 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 177
Posted By kathymuggle
Do not chuck tomatos at me but I did not hate the...

Do not chuck tomatos at me but I did not hate the clip :hide

Gates said he was more angry/impatient over vaccines not getting out to Africa, rather than "anti-vaxxers" in say, Orange County. I...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-27-2015, 07:47 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 507
Posted By kathymuggle
Are you a non-vaxxer? This is a forum for...

Are you a non-vaxxer? This is a forum for non-vaxxers and is support only. There is a pro-vax forum, a selective delayed forum and a general forum where all are welcome to discuss and debate.
...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 12:00 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 552
Posted By kathymuggle
http://safeminds.org/pubs/aluminum-and-mercury-in-...

http://safeminds.org/pubs/aluminum-and-mercury-in-vaccines-through-2007-ayoub.pdf

http://safeminds.org/pubs/aluminum-and-mercury-in-vaccines-through-2007-ayoub.pdf
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 11:41 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 552
Posted By kathymuggle
Any link on the 2010? I have heard that...

Any link on the 2010? I have heard that vaccines (other than flu vaccines, trace amounts, vaccines in countires other than the USA, etc) had thim. removed around 2001 and were off the shelfs by...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 11:36 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 552
Posted By kathymuggle
I suppose I should verify elsewhere, but assuming...

I suppose I should verify elsewhere, but assuming this is correct….WOW.


"CDC’s Immunization Safety Office is a troubled agency. In recent years a series of studies by Federal Investigators and...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 11:35 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 552
Posted By kathymuggle
Wow. I am just starting to go over the article,...

Wow. I am just starting to go over the article, and there are some goodies in there.

Here is one:

"A senior CDC vaccine safety scientist, Dr. William Thompson, has invoked the protection of...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 11:31 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 552
Posted By kathymuggle
1. Thimerosal is still in most flu shot given...

1. Thimerosal is still in most flu shot given to pregnant women, babies, etc. If the dose required for harm in susceptible populations is very small, it could still be a factor.

2. Autism...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 04:07 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 155
Posted By kathymuggle
Very easy - 6 questions. Done. Good luck. ...

Very easy - 6 questions. Done. Good luck. Share results from MDC, ok?
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 03:20 PM
Replies: 63
Views: 905
Posted By kathymuggle
Since 1988 close to 4000 cases have been awarded....

Since 1988 close to 4000 cases have been awarded.

Just for kicks 4000/ 3 000 000 000 = 750 000 each.

I doubt those claims were for minor issues at that amount.


Thanks for sharing.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 03:04 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 811
Posted By kathymuggle
While well put by PSM, I think those that are...

While well put by PSM, I think those that are scientists and/or claim "science says" need to remember this is a parenting board. Trying to define the argument as only science based neglects that...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 12:14 PM
Replies: 74
Views: 750
Posted By kathymuggle
No. Please clarify the point you are trying to...

No. Please clarify the point you are trying to make.


I do not consider money (taxes, charity, etc) in the same playing field at all as health. Health is priceless...money is money.


ETA:...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 11:57 AM
Replies: 74
Views: 750
Posted By kathymuggle
If you think the benefit of vaccination for your...

If you think the benefit of vaccination for your child outweighs the negative - then it is ethical to vaccinate, IMO, and enjoy the side-benefit of knowing you are helping to prop up herd immunity...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-26-2015, 10:31 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 254
Posted By kathymuggle
Some of them are in denial. How can a rational,...

Some of them are in denial. How can a rational, compassionate person endorse or insist on (which is what much of the pro-vax movement is centered on) something that can seriously harm children? ...
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