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Forum: Vaccinations   02-10-2016, 12:45 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Because we are all sooo stoopid? That is the...

Because we are all sooo stoopid? That is the implication here: that humans (ones who bother to read package inserts at that!) are too stupid to weigh what they are reading properly (properly as...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-10-2016, 11:51 AM
Replies: 46
Views: 933
Posted By kathymuggle
You said the adverse reaction section of vaccine...

You said the adverse reaction section of vaccine inserts was not important and that we should not suggest people read it. I think it is therefore a reasonable question (not a strawman) to ask if...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-10-2016, 06:21 AM
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Views: 933
Posted By kathymuggle
Tea...do you think people should ignore the...

Tea...do you think people should ignore the adverse events listing on all pharmaceutical inserts? Who does this serve?


Do you want the adverse events section removed from inserts? (I mean,...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-09-2016, 09:33 PM
Replies: 46
Views: 933
Posted By kathymuggle
I think most people are smart enough to know...

I think most people are smart enough to know this.

If you do not think so, so be it.

If your point is people should know this about vaccine inserts (that they might list items as a CYA...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-09-2016, 09:27 PM
Replies: 46
Views: 933
Posted By kathymuggle
Reading vaccine inserts is only a small part of...

Reading vaccine inserts is only a small part of what people who want to research vaccines should do prior to making a decision. They can then take the adverse reactions listed and investigate them...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-09-2016, 07:27 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 335
Posted By kathymuggle
1/2 of all drug reactions occur after FDA liscensing.

As the title says :)

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/05/are-prescription-drugs-safe-not-necessarily/index.htm

"More than half of all prescription drugs cause adverse effects—some ...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-09-2016, 07:22 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 933
Posted By kathymuggle
So...the thread title caught my eye. 33/25 000...

So...the thread title caught my eye. 33/25 000 000 is only about 1/750 000. (let's ignore for the moment they are talking about doses (IIRC) , not children or even shots).

1/750 000 seems...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-08-2016, 07:46 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 868
Posted By kathymuggle
I agree. I would take it even one step further...

I agree. I would take it even one step further - I do not mind one iota when the science that is used to base a policy on (as long as the evidence isn't flimsy) turns out to be wrong. When you...
Forum: Preteens and Teens   02-08-2016, 02:24 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,272
Posted By kathymuggle
I have not read the other response. My...

I have not read the other response.

My son used screen very heavily from about 12-15. Part of it was that he did not have much else going on, but part of it was he genuinely enjoyed them. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 03:49 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 527
Posted By kathymuggle
I think the issue is that doctors do not always...

I think the issue is that doctors do not always take patient complaints of serious pain and the like seriously.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-06-2016, 12:55 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 2,649
Posted By kathymuggle
Tea, I don't think we are in disagreement. ...

Tea, I don't think we are in disagreement.

Reader said microcephaly was formed in the first trimester. It can be, but it can also be formed in the second trimester. She was wrong...and getting...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-06-2016, 07:20 AM
Replies: 81
Views: 1,956
Posted By kathymuggle
It seems like many are arguing we should ignore...

It seems like many are arguing we should ignore doctors and scientists if we do not like their politics. Very interesting.

Kind of makes most appeal to authority (You should listen to your...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-06-2016, 07:11 AM
Replies: 111
Views: 2,649
Posted By kathymuggle
Thanks for the link. While it highlights the...

Thanks for the link. While it highlights the difference between microcephaly and acquired microcephaly, it does not say that microcephaly develops in utero in the first trimester only. This is...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 07:45 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 2,649
Posted By kathymuggle
Please post a link showing that microcephaly...

Please post a link showing that microcephaly always starts in the first semester.

That is not what I am seeing:
...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 02:34 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 868
Posted By kathymuggle
Read the Forbes article. It looks like...

Read the Forbes article.

It looks like something vaccine critics have long suspected - that the vaccine does not automatically give the patient a milder case - has some evidence to it:
...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 12:37 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 868
Posted By kathymuggle
I agree. Vaccines are perfectly safe and...

I agree. Vaccines are perfectly safe and hunky-dorry...what is the problem?

No shaming those who opt out of this highly imperefect, does-not-prevent transmission, vaccine, though. :shake

You...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 12:30 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 868
Posted By kathymuggle
I I was the one who made the claim, and I...

I

I was the one who made the claim, and I stand by it.

I did not mention pro-vaccine scientists and doctors, however, I simply said "pro-vaxxers" Indeed, I was thinking of the pro-vaxxers on...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-04-2016, 02:46 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 2,649
Posted By kathymuggle
Intriguing. My non-vax friends believe Zika is...

Intriguing. My non-vax friends believe Zika is transmitted by mosquitoes found in warm areas.



I largely agree with you.

I do question the bolded, though. Who is ignoring the real...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-29-2016, 05:23 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 3,010
Posted By kathymuggle
I did not really think they were poking fun at me...

I did not really think they were poking fun at me (shrug). It is no suprise to me that that many vaccine critics do not put much stock in the CDC, and especially would not put much stock into a self...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-29-2016, 08:05 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,272
Posted By kathymuggle
I agree. I think she was simply making an...

I agree. I think she was simply making an observation about the nature of human beings.

I suspect that vaccine mandators are banking on this as well, but this is not an assertion she made or...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-29-2016, 07:15 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,272
Posted By kathymuggle
I think it largely, but not entirely, holds. ...

I think it largely, but not entirely, holds.

Example: It can be a real pain (virtually impossible in some areas) to find non GMO foods. That has not really stopped discussion of it.....even...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-28-2016, 02:49 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 786
Posted By kathymuggle
Well, if rubella is eliminated in the UK that is...

Well, if rubella is eliminated in the UK that is somewhat a good thing. Less rubella = less chance of getting it as a pregnant adult and passing it onto a fetus.

Still, as rubella is essentially...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-27-2016, 07:11 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 630
Posted By kathymuggle
If push really comes to shove, I support...

If push really comes to shove, I support individual people getting the drugs they need over societal cost.

Thankfully, some of the societal costs could be mitigated by proper disposal programs...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-27-2016, 12:02 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 3,010
Posted By kathymuggle
I made 3 points above (bolded). You really only...

I made 3 points above (bolded). You really only addressed one.

Thompson did not say protocol was changed, he said it was not followed.

Trying to put anything to rest without talking to...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-27-2016, 09:04 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,272
Posted By kathymuggle
The other ways this analogy falls down is: ...

The other ways this analogy falls down is:


Almost all schools receive tax payer money. Most daycares do not. So if a daycare providers chooses not to accept a child in cloth diapers, one may...
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