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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:19 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Nope, what happened in those states is that the...

Nope, what happened in those states is that the vaccine critics simply highlighted the lies that were being fed to legislators. The bills collapsed.

I don't think your single anecdote about...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:17 PM
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Posted By Deborah
More examples of how the pro-vaccine lie and get...

More examples of how the pro-vaccine lie and get away with it. Thanks y'all.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:16 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I had some friends many years ago in Missouri who...

I had some friends many years ago in Missouri who were in a same-sex marriage. Happily monogamous, nice people, pillars of the community (which considering how conservative Missouri was back then has...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:24 PM
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Posted By Deborah
AND being attacked as anti-vaccine for turning...

AND being attacked as anti-vaccine for turning down any vaccine at any time for any reason (see Hep B and chickenpox as examples), is another reason for distrust.

On top of all that, the...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:23 PM
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Views: 546
Posted By Deborah
Yes, I also have seen this happening in Vermont...

Yes, I also have seen this happening in Vermont over the last 3 years. Most people who had concerns about vaccines selectively vaccinated. Since the big push to remove exemptions, starting in 2012,...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:19 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 546
Posted By Deborah
Yes. Again, in Vermont, when the choice...

Yes.

Again, in Vermont, when the choice movement tried to get the actual data on exemptions into the newspapers and correct the misinformation we were stonewalled. It was bad in 2012, it was a...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:13 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 546
Posted By Deborah
It isn't a "perception" when people are being...

It isn't a "perception" when people are being deliberately lied to. It is a fake perception.

To give an example in another area--when companies that burn high mercury coal to generate electricity...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:06 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 546
Posted By Deborah
You aren't quite getting what I'm saying. My...

You aren't quite getting what I'm saying. My point is that there has been a deliberate attempt to use planted stories in the news media to convince people that the "anti-vaccine" movement is growing...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:37 PM
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Views: 546
Posted By Deborah
thekoz I'm going to go through what I saw...

thekoz

I'm going to go through what I saw first hand in Vermont in 2012, the first attempt to remove the philosophical exemption.

Several months before the bill was proposed, articles began to...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:28 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 391
Posted By Deborah
I lived in California for many years. There was...

I lived in California for many years. There was always a large population of serious conservatives.

However, the Democrats went for forced vaccinations and the Republicans did not.

Years ago...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:25 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I've noticed that when I am logical and...

I've noticed that when I am logical and impersonal, my posts are usually ignored. :crying:So...thanks for responding!
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:32 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I can't quite see the relevance of "pockets" of...

I can't quite see the relevance of "pockets" of low vaccination rates in any part of Spain to this situation. Remember that 10 vaccinated children were found to be carriers. Therefore there is no...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:23 PM
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Views: 1,875
Posted By Deborah
It isn't coming across as love of children? I'm...

It isn't coming across as love of children? I'm surprised. I thought all of the vaccine pushers just adore children.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:21 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 410
Posted By Deborah
Well...if deaths occur after vaccination there is...

Well...if deaths occur after vaccination there is always an explanation which exonerates the vaccine, but if deaths occur after illness it is always the illness.

It isn't due to delayed treatment...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:17 PM
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Views: 2,434
Posted By Deborah
Limited and inaccurate information doesn't equal...

Limited and inaccurate information doesn't equal informed consent. Aren't I the picky troublemaker?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:22 AM
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Views: 2,434
Posted By Deborah
Is it informed consent when the HPV vaccines are...

Is it informed consent when the HPV vaccines are offered without info about medically documented serious reactions in Denmark and Japan?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:18 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,137
Posted By Deborah
It is almost enough to make me think there is a...

It is almost enough to make me think there is a conspiracy to cover up problems resulting from the HPV vaccines.

And, of course, part of that same conspiracy would be huge newspaper coverage of...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:16 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 410
Posted By Deborah
This baby's death is not even worthy of a "meh"...

This baby's death is not even worthy of a "meh" apparently.
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2015, 08:32 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 750
Posted By Deborah
And that is a very mild article compared to the...

And that is a very mild article compared to the material coming out of Denmark.
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2015, 08:13 PM
Replies: 91
Views: 2,434
Posted By Deborah
I'm bumping up this thread again because of the...

I'm bumping up this thread again because of the current issues of censorship (calling an elephant an elephant).

The one I'd like to point to is the lack of coverage of HPV vaccine issues in...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2015, 07:47 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,137
Posted By Deborah
Why, why, why no info in the US about HPV vaccine...

Why, why, why no info in the US about HPV vaccine problems in other countries?

We do get stories about vaccines from other countries. There has been a hugely publicized story just recently...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2015, 07:44 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 750
Posted By Deborah
The follow-up will be a widespread push for...

The follow-up will be a widespread push for millions of women to be re-vaxed with Gardasil 9.

Gardasil 14 is probably already being developed.

Good thing I'm not conspiracy minded!
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2015, 07:41 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 576
Posted By Deborah
From the Jenny/Taliban article. So they...

From the Jenny/Taliban article.

So they admit that the challenge in the US has nothing to do with the Taliban, totally blowing their headline. Right.

And then the next one is the...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2015, 07:29 PM
Replies: 123
Views: 3,681
Posted By Deborah
This is from #8...

This is from #8 (http://www.mothering.com/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=8) in the original article (link is in Post #1...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2015, 07:05 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 410
Posted By Deborah
I think the official story is in the process of...

I think the official story is in the process of being tidied up.
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