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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:37 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
So...have you come to any conclusions?

So...have you come to any conclusions?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:29 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I agree with this. Even though thus far I have...

I agree with this. Even though thus far I have been talking about choice in the context of after she was exposed to measles, it is fair to say that the decision to go on immune suppressents is still...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:07 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 904
Posted By kathymuggle
So much to comment on! She was...

So much to comment on!




She was exposed to someone who came in with (at that time) an unknown illness. Yes, someone who is severely immune compromised should be kept away from the general...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:02 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 659
Posted By kathymuggle
Lol. I actually do not highly worry about...

Lol. I actually do not highly worry about shedding and I think it is (painting with large brush strokes here) typically rare, albeit under-recognised- but I think with some people (immune...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:34 AM
Replies: 40
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Posted By kathymuggle
People can be harmed by getting chicken pox while...

People can be harmed by getting chicken pox while pregnant, although I think it is quite rare. I met a child who was harmed by the mothers chicken pox during pregnancy.

These articles below...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-02-2015, 08:17 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,021
Posted By kathymuggle
He isn't saying he burnt papers, he is saying...

He isn't saying he burnt papers, he is saying Thompson told him they burnt papers. It has been several days and Thompson has not denied he said that, nor, for that matter, have any of the...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-02-2015, 07:58 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 904
Posted By kathymuggle
This was a failure of the medical team to keep...

This was a failure of the medical team to keep someone who was immune suppressed away from the general public. She was exposed in the hospital or clinic if I remember properly - what on earth was...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-02-2015, 07:49 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 904
Posted By kathymuggle
The incubation period for measles is typically...

The incubation period for measles is typically 7-21 days.

Yes, a call was made to leave her on immune suppressants. If it would have taken her system longer than 7-21 days, then removing them...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-02-2015, 09:11 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 904
Posted By kathymuggle
Link? Even if you are correct, we do not...

Link?

Even if you are correct, we do not know what drugs she was on. I suspect some immune suppressing drugs are stronger than others.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-02-2015, 08:59 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 904
Posted By kathymuggle
You might be correct. Tea might be correct. It...

You might be correct. Tea might be correct. It is possible the drugs she was on were so strong they would have wiped out even the stronger antibodies from disease. I don't know, and I do not have...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-02-2015, 07:16 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 904
Posted By kathymuggle
chicken pox cannot be compared to measles. ...

chicken pox cannot be compared to measles.

To the best of my knowledge, measles always (or very close to always) confer life long immunity. I do not know if that changes in the immune...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-02-2015, 06:53 AM
Replies: 183
Views: 4,220
Posted By kathymuggle
...and another link. This one is vaccine...

...and another link. This one is vaccine critical, but it is well cited and lists several sources for its claim that vaccine induced measles immunity wanes over time. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-02-2015, 06:27 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 659
Posted By kathymuggle
Titers can be low for a bunch of reasons. I do...

Titers can be low for a bunch of reasons. I do know that those who had chicken pox early (under age 1) have a much higher chance of getting chicken pox twice than someone who has the disease after...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 08:57 PM
Replies: 183
Views: 4,220
Posted By kathymuggle
The link in post 173 does. Here is...

The link in post 173 does.


Here is another:

"
It is debated what role the second dose plays for boosting immunity. Studies of outbreaks have
demonstrated an association between the ...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 04:51 PM
Replies: 142
Views: 2,789
Posted By kathymuggle
Kathy

Kathy
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 12:34 PM
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Views: 4,220
Posted By kathymuggle
Here is one study that discusses waning immunity....

Here is one study that discusses waning immunity. I know one is not enough to go on, but it is a start:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905323/

o evaluate the population immunity...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 12:24 PM
Replies: 183
Views: 4,220
Posted By kathymuggle
"Since the mid-1990s, no age group has...

"Since the mid-1990s, no age group has predominated
among reported cases of measles. Relative to earlier
decades, an increased proportion of cases now occur
among adults. In 1973, persons 20...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 11:59 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 423
Posted By kathymuggle
I am going to push back slightly against the idea...

I am going to push back slightly against the idea of taking newborns into very public, crowded places.

Pertussis and the flu are dangerous in newborns and both are endemic (although the flu has...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 11:37 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 423
Posted By kathymuggle
It is a hypothetical - although good point on...

It is a hypothetical - although good point on knowing whether the cream treated the symptom or the cause.

Really - I was trying to get at the heart of what everyone though "effective" meant in...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 10:07 AM
Replies: 142
Views: 2,789
Posted By kathymuggle
Hi, I am going to give you a mini history...

Hi,


I am going to give you a mini history lesson as I see it. I think it might help you understand why there is such animosity on these threads. If anyone wants to add anything, please feel...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 08:29 AM
Replies: 183
Views: 4,220
Posted By kathymuggle
Bolding mine. It isn't pretending to say...

Bolding mine.


It isn't pretending to say the effectiveness rate is 50%. We could absolutely shoots stats back and forth, but 50-60% sounds right. I would accept 60% if you like, but anything...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 06:13 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 423
Posted By kathymuggle
what should effective mean to you?

So...clear your mind and put aside any cynicism you have on drugs and their efficacy.

You have an itchy rash. You show it to the doctor and he or she says - take this cream, it is effective...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 06:00 AM
Replies: 183
Views: 4,220
Posted By kathymuggle
I think there might be (not by you, just in...

I think there might be (not by you, just in general) a sort of deliberate deception going on, or at least using a word in a way that fits an agenda without taking into account how it is going to be...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-01-2015, 05:42 AM
Replies: 12
  Poll: Just curious
Views: 400
Posted By kathymuggle
Non-vax, part time job, children in teens. Voted...

Non-vax, part time job, children in teens. Voted other.

If you are trying to figure out if one group just has more time than other, I think you might need to add in family size and if they...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-31-2015, 07:13 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,021
Posted By kathymuggle
A skeptic blog has covered the issue. It has got...

A skeptic blog has covered the issue. It has got to be one of the lamest articles written on a skeptic blog, and that is saying a lot. It essentially amounts to Thompson is lying, with no proof...
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