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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:47 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Data and Conclusions

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/12/244

Review of literature looking at the safety/efficacy of the flu vaccine in end-stage renal patients.

Bias. Confounders. Didn't look at this and...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:10 PM
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Posted By Deborah
My analysis of the actual points made in the...

My analysis of the actual points made in the article linked in the OP

Teachers vaccination rates don't have to be disclosed. So a teacher could be hacking whooping cough all over the class (vaxed...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:00 PM
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Views: 335
Posted By Deborah
Normal life experiences required for children who...

Normal life experiences required for children who are at risk if they catch a cold.

However it is okay to deprive thousands of children of access to schools because they MIGHT at some point be...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:18 PM
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Views: 335
Posted By Deborah
Safer isn't good enough if your child can be...

Safer isn't good enough if your child can be killed by chickenpox or influenza or a cold. Because even 100% vaccination of all the children in a classroom cannot guarantee that someone won't catch...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:44 PM
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Posted By Deborah
The argument is that children with serious immune...

The argument is that children with serious immune problems will be safe in schools if vaccination rates are higher. The counter argument is that it is impossible for children with serious immune...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:33 PM
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Views: 758
Posted By Deborah
I asked a friend about this article. He pointed...

I asked a friend about this article. He pointed out something interesting. This is from the original article.



The assumption is that as the virus spreads, the pool of vulnerable people...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:54 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 730
Posted By Deborah
Here is the story of polio in the US. The...

Here is the story of polio in the US. The discussion comes from doctors who were actually working on the polio situation in the 1950s.
And I think we can say with a fair bit of certainty that...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:51 AM
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Views: 730
Posted By Deborah
Well, if you can believe that in 1963 a large...

Well, if you can believe that in 1963 a large enough body of children was vaccinated against measles that it caused the rates to immediately plummet, you are right up there with the Queen in Through...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 07:04 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 730
Posted By Deborah
No, remember, we are talking about correct...

No, remember, we are talking about correct diagnosis in the first year or two after a vaccine is rolled out. When doctors still know how to diagnose the illness.

I'm asking for evidence that...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 06:45 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 483
Posted By Deborah
Okay. So a nurse works at a hospital for 10, 15...

Okay. So a nurse works at a hospital for 10, 15 or even 20 years. Has an excellent record, has delivered first-rate care and now the hospital, in order to avoid losing federal money tells him/her...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 06:33 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 730
Posted By Deborah
Yes, that would all make sense. But it doesn't...

Yes, that would all make sense. But it doesn't seem to work in the real world. One factor is that the rules for diagnosis of an illness are changed when vaccination begins. The best known example of...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 05:49 PM
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Views: 730
Posted By Deborah
I decided to skim the article and look for a...

I decided to skim the article and look for a "fact" to discuss.

This one actually has two facts of interest. The global market for all pharmaceutical products isn't the relevant number to see...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 05:35 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 758
Posted By Deborah
Why then, is the flu vaccine pushed beginning in...

Why then, is the flu vaccine pushed beginning in August and still being pushed in April?
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 05:28 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 990
Posted By Deborah
That is a very good point. The changes in the...

That is a very good point. The changes in the incidence of autism began back in the 1980s, roughly, let's say 1985 just to have a date. Twenty years later there is still no consistent way of...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 02:48 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 990
Posted By Deborah
ss834 Thanks for clarifying. Is there no...

ss834

Thanks for clarifying. Is there no correlation because the data is problematic or because there is, in your opinion, no correlation, period? How definite do you mean to be?
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 02:17 PM
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Views: 1,796
Posted By Deborah
My ankle isn't an infectious disease...with or...

My ankle isn't an infectious disease...with or without the hardware.

But it is curious that patients who ask questions and want to be informed are generally treated with respect. Unless it...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 02:13 PM
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Views: 990
Posted By Deborah
This is one of the major organizations involved...

This is one of the major organizations involved in the research. http://ecdc.europa.eu/en/epiet/institutes/Pages/SSI2009.aspx

Even if the researchers had nothing to do with thimerosal being...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 01:12 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,796
Posted By Deborah
I'm actually faced with a medical decision that...

I'm actually faced with a medical decision that I'll have to research.

I've got hardware in both sides of my left ankle. I need to decide whether to get it removed or not.

The PA at the ortho...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 01:09 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 990
Posted By Deborah
Very interesting discussion and a lot of good...

Very interesting discussion and a lot of good points.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the people doing the study were/are employed by the agency in Denmark that handles vaccines.
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Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 12:53 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 483
Posted By Deborah
The part that puzzles me is that there should be...

The part that puzzles me is that there should be some stats on how many people catch flu IN the hospital. I've never seen any. We do see a lot of stats about other healthcare related illnesses, for...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 07:34 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 990
Posted By Deborah
Okay. Some points that need to be...

Okay.

Some points that need to be considered when we look at more studies.

In the US there was a period of several years in which newborns were given the Hep B vaccine which contained...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 07:06 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 990
Posted By Deborah
Thanks Jessica. I'd like to put this into...

Thanks Jessica.

I'd like to put this into the context of the arguments about thimerosal and autism that have occurred over the last 15 years or so.

The study was published in a leading...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 06:33 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 2,275
Posted By Deborah
The birth dose of Hep B in the US is based on a...

The birth dose of Hep B in the US is based on a very large pile of assumptions. Read the section on Hepatitis B http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=486191 The paragraph starts like...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-17-2015, 06:14 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 990
Posted By Deborah
I'll briefly sum up my own thoughts on the study,...

I'll briefly sum up my own thoughts on the study, then.

I see it as very loose. The factors being looked at are thimerosal levels in the vaccines and the number of cases of autism.

I don't...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   04-17-2015, 05:56 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 799
Posted By Deborah
I spent a few days when I was in library school...

I spent a few days when I was in library school hanging out with a hospital librarian. She highlighted the fact that there are a significant number of patient organizations that have become puppets...
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