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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 02:07 PM
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Posted By Deborah
It isn't a relationship where doctors give orders...

It isn't a relationship where doctors give orders and "patients" comply. Unless the government gets into the game.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 01:51 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Yes and no. When I was pregnant I took a...

Yes and no.

When I was pregnant I took a class with a home birth pioneer who had been at hundreds of home births. She said that generally doctors do not add to the safety of a home birth because...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:23 PM
Replies: 38
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Posted By Deborah
I did a cut and paste of the part I wanted,...

I did a cut and paste of the part I wanted, instead of using the quote function, and then used the @ to tag Pers.

But I'm a librarian and work with all sorts of software all day every day. So...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 04:49 AM
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Views: 770
Posted By Deborah
@pers...

@pers (http://www.mothering.com/forum/member.php?u=33489) wrote In the real world, areas with very high rates of vaccination with oral polio vaccine (India, and now Nigeria) have developed high...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:30 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 543
Posted By Deborah
Back a bit, someone I know decided that she...

Back a bit, someone I know decided that she needed to find a different hospital for her home-birth back-up. The local hospital had a lousy record around childbirth.

Interesting that she thought...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:18 PM
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Posted By Deborah
We already covered this, but I'll quote myself...

We already covered this, but I'll quote myself again. Actions can also be protected, even troublesome actions.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 04:59 PM
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Views: 250
Posted By Deborah
Physical therapy can and often does "cure" as in...

Physical therapy can and often does "cure" as in restore full function or close enough to full-function to make life normal.

Certain surgeries, if they work correctly, can also restore close to...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 04:52 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 543
Posted By Deborah
That must be why medical practices send out forms...

That must be why medical practices send out forms asking for feedback on their service.

Because it is absolutely ridiculous for the patient or the parent of the patient to ever act as though they...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-02-2015, 05:31 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 687
Posted By Deborah
Bumping up this thread because the last two or...

Bumping up this thread because the last two or three posts could provide an interesting discussion if anyone is interested.

I do think I was a bit too strong in some of my statements, sorry!
Forum: Vaccinations   09-02-2015, 05:53 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 173
Posted By Deborah
The entertaining bit, to me, is that vaccine...

The entertaining bit, to me, is that vaccine failure isn't the fault of a defective vaccine, or improper delivery/planning on the part of the public health establishment (not doing catch up vaccines...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-02-2015, 05:52 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 173
Posted By Deborah
But vaccines are not 100% so there is a reason...

But vaccines are not 100% so there is a reason for the fear.

Only moderately irrational, not totally irrational. And someone who actually read up on the Disneyland measles outbreak would know...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-02-2015, 04:59 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 253
Posted By Deborah
Yes! And they KNOW that vaccines in general and...

Yes! And they KNOW that vaccines in general and vaccines during pregnancy are both okay and needed, so there won't be any data collection on whether these kids received a dose of aluminum in the...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-02-2015, 04:44 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,336
Posted By Deborah
Yep. They are a bit full of themselves. I...

Yep. They are a bit full of themselves.

I also love that Offit said that one of Shaw's papers should "never have been published"....
Forum: Vaccinations   09-01-2015, 06:22 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,336
Posted By Deborah
Do you think that the process is clarified when...

Do you think that the process is clarified when someone like Offit misinforms parents about the science around the safety of aluminum?
Forum: Vaccinations   09-01-2015, 05:33 PM
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Posted By Deborah
It wasn't just Shaw. I actually contacted them...

It wasn't just Shaw. I actually contacted them and pointed out that it was crap science. They were mad at me because I had been making a general noise about the problem in various online venues...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-01-2015, 03:47 PM
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Views: 354
Posted By Deborah
I guess no one wants to discuss this. Oh...

I guess no one wants to discuss this.

Oh well.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-01-2015, 09:14 AM
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Views: 253
Posted By Deborah
Where it will be explained as "normal" and...

Where it will be explained as "normal" and "better diagnosis" and whatever else cannot be connected to "safe" vaccines given during pregnancy.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-01-2015, 08:28 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,336
Posted By Deborah
Just went to the CHOP web-site and there is no...

Just went to the CHOP web-site and there is no longer a discussion of the value of aluminum during pregnancy. Fortunately, lots of people have saved the old web-site version, so Offit won't be able...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-01-2015, 08:24 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 253
Posted By Deborah
Aluminum in vaccines

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3056430/



Vaccines containing aluminum are recommended during pregnancy. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/preg-guide.htm

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from the Adacel...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-31-2015, 05:43 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 770
Posted By Deborah
It is actually a perfect example of how, for...

It is actually a perfect example of how, for those who like vaccines, vaccine mess-ups and failures and surprises all add up to: Vaccinate!

Whereas, for people who have questions about vaccines,...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-31-2015, 02:14 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 1,673
Posted By Deborah
No beaches in my life. but I hope a lot of...

No beaches in my life.

but I hope a lot of smart teens are saying no to Gardasil!
Forum: Vaccinations   08-31-2015, 11:09 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 770
Posted By Deborah
When it comes to vaccines and disease you can...

When it comes to vaccines and disease you can have it several different ways over a few years.

Until quite recently, unvaxed children were no big problem. Now they are a threat to civilization!...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-31-2015, 05:56 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 473
Posted By Deborah
Don't have much more time this morning. ...

Don't have much more time this morning.

Acute flaccid paralysis is the umbrella term for a wide range of illnesses that share a similar type of paralysis. Let's see if this link to a pdf works...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-31-2015, 04:50 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 473
Posted By Deborah
I think it is much more complicated than that. ...

I think it is much more complicated than that.

Polio almost always requires provocation. Normally it is a gut virus and completely harmless. In order to become paralytic it has to leave the gut...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-30-2015, 05:29 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 770
Posted By Deborah
I'll insert responses in blue. The...

I'll insert responses in blue.



The big question with paralytic polio is whether it exists at all without provocation. This is the most obvious reason that acute flaccid paralysis cases rise...
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