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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:02 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
I think there were early unsubstantiated ideas it...

I think there were early unsubstantiated ideas it might have been a terrorist act to contaminate the vaccines. But that has been found to be not true.

In reassured they're pursuing criminal...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:38 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,393
Posted By prosciencemum
Deborah - let's not make it personal. Why comment...

Deborah - let's not make it personal. Why comment on me? How is that relevant.

Can you provide and open access link to read the paper? I cannot access it - only the abstract. So I've seen all the...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:36 AM
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Views: 2,393
Posted By prosciencemum
I'm just suggesting that as all the authors are...

I'm just suggesting that as all the authors are from the region they couldn't have accidentally made a mistake. So they either knew what they were doing and did the right thing (I've not seen any...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:34 AM
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Views: 304
Posted By prosciencemum
So just to repeat it was not the measles vaccines...

So just to repeat it was not the measles vaccines which caused the deaths - but a mistake in administering vaccines which caused the wrong substance to be injected into the infants.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:33 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 304
Posted By prosciencemum
BBC article on the story:...

BBC article on the story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29251329

Suggests the vaccines were accidentally mixed up with muscle relaxants. All the deaths were children 6-18 months old....
Forum: Vaccinating on Schedule   Yesterday, 03:22 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
I personally find it scary there's more than 50...

I personally find it scary there's more than 50 schools in CA with PBE (so not even adding medical exemptions in) for more than 50% of the kids. Sounds like a ticking time bomb for VPDs to me. If my...
Forum: Vaccinating on Schedule   Yesterday, 02:18 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 167
Posted By prosciencemum
PBE Rates in California

I've been seeing a lot of fairly mainstream news lately about some of the rich school districts in California having very high personal belief exemption rates. This article talks about that, and also...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:08 AM
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Views: 2,393
Posted By prosciencemum
OK so I spent some time this morning looking at...

OK so I spent some time this morning looking at this study. Googling the criticisms Deborah has made in fact point to a long (six year) history of anti-vaccination groups trying to discredit this...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-17-2014, 09:46 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 261
Posted By prosciencemum
Kathy - thanks for sharing that, it was really...

Kathy - thanks for sharing that, it was really interesting.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-11-2014, 11:29 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,159
Posted By prosciencemum
I'm less worried about the board membership and...

I'm less worried about the board membership and more about the court case he's in trying to prove a link between autism and vaccines. I do not think that makes for an objective scientist on this...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-11-2014, 11:26 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 312
Posted By prosciencemum
On a related note this is a thought provoking...

On a related note this is a thought provoking artificial article about the need for a rating scheme for media coverage of science:...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-10-2014, 10:39 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 312
Posted By prosciencemum
Thanks for sharing that - really useful. ...

Thanks for sharing that - really useful.

The only one I would object to is the "Sensational headlines". That happens after the research, is done by journalists and often misinterprets the actual...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-10-2014, 10:53 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,159
Posted By prosciencemum
Except - as tea has previously pointed out, if...

Except - as tea has previously pointed out, if Thompson bases his claim that important data was excluded on the new analysis.

And if you want general discussion of your question about bias - I do...
Forum: Vaccinating on Schedule   09-10-2014, 10:48 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 279
Posted By prosciencemum
The uk schedule includes a meningitus vaccine for...

The uk schedule includes a meningitus vaccine for infants. I forget right now which meningitus. I've always wondered why the us chooses not to recommend it.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-10-2014, 10:42 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,159
Posted By prosciencemum
That certainly appears to be true if you want to...

That certainly appears to be true if you want to post opinions about vaccinating on MDC.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-10-2014, 10:37 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,753
Posted By prosciencemum
There are reasons to omit data however which do...

There are reasons to omit data however which do not constitute fraud or a coverup and which reasonable scientists might disagree on. This episode to me looks more and more like that. I wish some of...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-09-2014, 11:08 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,015
Posted By prosciencemum
Oh and like kathymuggle - I agree the health of...

Oh and like kathymuggle - I agree the health of children (all children - not just those with low risk of VPDs and health aware parents) is the point here.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-09-2014, 11:07 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,015
Posted By prosciencemum
Thanks for wanting to give advice - however I'd...

Thanks for wanting to give advice - however I'd prefer my children's personal health not be discussed here so can I request an edit. I can't remember ever saying the things you quoted from taxi...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-08-2014, 11:44 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,753
Posted By prosciencemum
Thanks for sharing that teacozy. For those...

Thanks for sharing that teacozy.

For those of you who think this is the big study that shows vaccines have been wrong all along - what do you make of this critique?
Forum: Vaccinations   09-07-2014, 08:23 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,393
Posted By prosciencemum
A lot of you won't like this, but it's my honest...

A lot of you won't like this, but it's my honest opinion that doctors are more defensive about even hinting things could be linked to vaccines thanks to NVIC, Wakefield and other anti vaccination...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-07-2014, 12:39 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,393
Posted By prosciencemum
I can agree that sometimes bad things which...

I can agree that sometimes bad things which happen after vaccines are caused by the vaccine. Can you agree that sometimes they are not? Can you agree that sometimes it will be hard to tell which...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-06-2014, 12:59 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,393
Posted By prosciencemum
Teacozy - sorry if I overreacted. Unconscious...

Teacozy - sorry if I overreacted. Unconscious bias against women in science is a bit of a pet peeve for me.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-06-2014, 10:07 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,393
Posted By prosciencemum
Thanks teacozy - I was wondering too (if indeed...

Thanks teacozy - I was wondering too (if indeed the records are from different cities) how different the immunisation patterns would be in Montreal and Quebec - your friend puts words to that...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-06-2014, 07:15 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 743
Posted By prosciencemum
Sure if you like. A thread on what the scary...

Sure if you like. A thread on what the scary sounding ingredients in vaccines are there for hasn't come by in a while.

So we need these discussions:

"what is a virus?"
"What is an adjuvant?"
Forum: Vaccinations   09-06-2014, 07:13 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,393
Posted By prosciencemum
Thanks for the bump. I'll get to reading it....

Thanks for the bump. I'll get to reading it. Maybe this one is bad.... I need to read it first.

My point about the 20 studies for Deborah is that there are dozens more papers which come to...
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