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Forum: Selective & Delayed Vaccination   Today, 08:31 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Would it be okay if I started a thread on this in...

Would it be okay if I started a thread on this in the general forum? Or if you prefer I can keep it here to eliminate the debate factor.

I won't have time until Monday, as I am doing a big craft...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:04 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
You can get full-text studies from your local...

You can get full-text studies from your local public library via interlibrary loan. Talk to a reference librarian and ask for the procedure to get full-text journal articles. It shouldn't take more...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 11:44 AM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
From the link Mirzam supplied in post 328 ...

From the link Mirzam supplied in post 328

This is the sort of discussion I would really like to have with pro-vaxers. But in my experience, this is exactly the sort of stuff they DO NOT WANT TO...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:10 AM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
Yes, share this with state and federal...

Yes, share this with state and federal representatives.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:49 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Going to Brian Deer is a very amusing...

Going to Brian Deer is a very amusing recommendation!
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:46 PM
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Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
Of course. Vaccines are totally wonderful. And...

Of course. Vaccines are totally wonderful. And everyone should get every single vaccine on the schedule on time. And if anything goes wrong it is a coincidence.

And a very, very large pile of...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:01 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 884
Posted By Deborah
I'm okay with posting in Selective and Delayed,...

I'm okay with posting in Selective and Delayed, but as a grandmother who hasn't had to personally deal with vaccines in many years (I don't get any for myself, of course), I don't really have any...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 07:06 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
prosciencemum wrote: Um. I've seen some...

prosciencemum wrote:

Um. I've seen some incredibly tiny studies touted as proving amazing things about the safety and efficacy of vaccines. Looks to me like the usual double standard, frankly.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 03:01 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
I don't trust Natural News as a source. When I do...

I don't trust Natural News as a source. When I do read an article there I always go to the sources he lists to see if I agree with his "slant". I do that with the CDC too :)
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 02:50 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
That statement reads like some sort of...

That statement reads like some sort of obfuscation to me, but I'm not sure exactly what sort of obfuscation.

So they did exclude children without Georgia birth certificates from some of the data...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 12:49 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
One thing that is getting lost in all this is...

One thing that is getting lost in all this is that Brian Hooker did publish a peer-reviewed article in a journal which is indexed by PubMed. And instead of writing critical letters to the editor, two...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 12:15 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
To add a bit of context, the Merck MMR...

To add a bit of context, the Merck MMR whistleblowers about the problems with the mumps vaccine have done everything according to the book. And the CDC, FDA and Merck have been totally successful at...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 08:52 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 259
Posted By Deborah
It isn't actually approved for use during...

It isn't actually approved for use during pregnancy, so the recommendation is off-label. It is a category C drug.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-23-2014, 06:23 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,058
Posted By Deborah
Good points, Mamakay. It seems quite likely, in...

Good points, Mamakay. It seems quite likely, in fact, that a significant number of mumps cases in children under 12 or so are missed altogether, as it can be extremely mild. A day of fever? Slightly...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-23-2014, 06:20 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 603
Posted By Deborah
I think a lot of trust issues over vaccines would...

I think a lot of trust issues over vaccines would be cleared up if reports of vaccine reactions were taken seriously instead of dismissed. The current system pushes parents into talking among...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-23-2014, 06:39 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 603
Posted By Deborah
I've actually been told by parents that when they...

I've actually been told by parents that when they called to report that their child was quite ill following vaccinations, the first thing the doctor would say, before even allowing the parent to tell...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-23-2014, 06:37 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 603
Posted By Deborah
Good points. But I was bringing up two...

Good points.

But I was bringing up two different issues. I shouldn't have mixed them.

I think the encouragement directed at doctors to deny or "normalize" vaccine reactions is close to...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 05:49 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 603
Posted By Deborah
And that mess, coming from the CDC and the...

And that mess, coming from the CDC and the vaccine promoting side IMO, is the reason that we have this huge divide. Inflation of disease risks, denial of vaccine risks and a willingness to go to any...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 05:43 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 603
Posted By Deborah
I'll say that I think the reason parents tell...

I'll say that I think the reason parents tell their stories to the world is because they can't get the doctors who gave the vaccines to listen to them.

Most of the distrust of vaccines could have...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 02:28 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1164046

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1164046
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 01:26 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
:truedat: Also, very interesting in light of...

:truedat:

Also, very interesting in light of the high rate of autism diagnoses in the Somali population especially in Minnesota.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 01:03 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
What Orac is trying to do: Distract from the...

What Orac is trying to do:

Distract from the fact that the CDC apparently falsified data to cover up a connection between MMR and autism in one segment of the population.

If the CDC did...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 12:54 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
So one study is to end all discussion of vaccine...

So one study is to end all discussion of vaccine causation. I love the spin! Brilliant. Strikes me as brutally dishonest, but it is clever.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 12:28 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
To take this a bit further-- let us say that...

To take this a bit further--

let us say that for the vast majority of kids, the MMR is okay. But if a child has messed up gut bacteria due to C-section, formula feeding or multiple doses of...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 12:22 PM
Replies: 333
Views: 9,458
Posted By Deborah
Well, no, not actually. All we would know is that...

Well, no, not actually. All we would know is that the CDC covered up data in one study. If they covered up data in one study...oh my goodness...they might have covered up data in other studies. And...
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