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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:13 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Well, yes and no. I don't generally point to...

Well, yes and no. I don't generally point to conflicts of interest as the biggest problem with pro-vaccine studies.

But I do know what it is like to have people ignore all sorts of important...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:02 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 80
Posted By Deborah
Section b. on effectiveness, points out that...

Section b. on effectiveness, points out that strains 16 and 18 only appear in 50% of the cervical cancer cases in Japan.

There is also an interesting discussion of the problem of pap smears in...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:59 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 80
Posted By Deborah
Well, that certainly saves you the effort of...

Well, that certainly saves you the effort of discussing any of the actual content.

And yes, I did see that there were some conflicts of interest.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:36 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 118
Posted By Deborah
Of course some pro-vaxers have a way around the...

Of course some pro-vaxers have a way around the problems I outlined in the OP.

They simply claim that pharma is secretly financing the anti-vaccine movement so that they can make the big bucks...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:41 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 80
Posted By Deborah
Great article and covers a lot of ground on how...

Great article and covers a lot of ground on how vaccines are approved and promoted.

I look forward to hearing from Skeptical Rapture and the Oracle. I'm sure they will explain away all points...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:30 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 46
Posted By Deborah
Fence Sitters are the Real Problem

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fence-sitting-parents-blame-falling-100000005.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw



But it is so much fun to beat up on the "anti-vaxers!":grin:
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:36 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 80
Posted By Deborah
Lessons Learnt in Japan

http://ijme.in/articles/lessons-learnt-in-japan-from-adverse-reactions-to-the-hpv-vaccine-a-medical-ethics-perspective/?galley=html



Okay. HPV vaccines are NEW. Which means that the long-term...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:33 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,386
Posted By Deborah
Good thing that the pro-vaccine don't go in for...

Good thing that the pro-vaccine don't go in for manipulation and trickery isn't it?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:30 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,844
Posted By Deborah
Inflammation from vaccines NEVER results in...

Inflammation from vaccines NEVER results in serious problems. But if you get similar inflammation from any infectious disease, disaster may follow.
Forum: Vaccinations   04-26-2017, 07:18 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,748
Posted By Deborah
Authorities are really dropping the ball on...

Authorities are really dropping the ball on Gardasil. If these illnesses are coincidental it should be possible to a) treat the illnesses appropriately and b) demonstrate that they are coincidental. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-26-2017, 07:02 PM
Replies: 203
Views: 8,852
Posted By Deborah
Bumping up this thread as a reminder that...

Bumping up this thread as a reminder that corrupted science is all over the place and that it isn't all that expensive to buy a few scientists when needed.
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   04-26-2017, 03:51 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 2,434
Posted By Deborah
Such cynicism. And those pharma guys are so...

Such cynicism.

And those pharma guys are so trustworthy. Are they some of the same folks who rigged the guidelines to create the opiate epidemic?
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   04-26-2017, 03:49 PM
Replies: 1
  Sneaky!
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Posted By Deborah
Sure sounds like a conspiracy to me!

Sure sounds like a conspiracy to me!
Forum: Vaccinations   04-25-2017, 04:55 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 268
Posted By Deborah
Definitely gets into some of the issues!

Definitely gets into some of the issues!
Forum: Vaccinations   04-25-2017, 04:49 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,748
Posted By Deborah
They are carrying the "greater good" concept to...

They are carrying the "greater good" concept to ridiculous lengths. That poor kid. As far as the politicians/bureaucrats go she simply doesn't exist. They have their eyes on the prize.

But I...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-25-2017, 04:43 PM
Replies: 109
Views: 4,643
Posted By Deborah
Yes, I've seen comments referencing all sorts of...

Yes, I've seen comments referencing all sorts of diseases where vaccines have NEVER been used in the US. I think they are banking on ignorance, which is a good thing to bank on when it comes to...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-24-2017, 07:47 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 228
Posted By Deborah
Yes! And they've stood up to massive...

Yes!

And they've stood up to massive criticism when they try to protect their own people from vaccine injury.
Forum: Vaccinations   04-24-2017, 07:12 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,748
Posted By Deborah
Girl and her family have an opportunity to speak...

Girl and her family have an opportunity to speak up on Irish radio show. https://www.oceanfm.ie/2017/04/24/imo-fake-news-comments-condemned-as-insulting-by-leitrim-teenage-girl/

Situation is so...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-24-2017, 06:00 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 228
Posted By Deborah
I'm not sure that really happened. And...

I'm not sure that really happened.

And their infant mortality is still among the lowest in the world.
Forum: Vaccinations   04-24-2017, 05:58 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 268
Posted By Deborah
I agree. As I've dug into various issues it has...

I agree. As I've dug into various issues it has become quite clear that science doesn't make policy and putting "scientists" up on a pedestal won't change that. Politicians and corporations make...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-24-2017, 05:48 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,386
Posted By Deborah
Those vaccine pushers suffer from major paranoia...

Those vaccine pushers suffer from major paranoia and also believe in conspiracies.

There is a breastfeeding is natural conspiracy!
Forum: Vaccinations   04-24-2017, 05:46 PM
Replies: 110
Views: 4,323
Posted By Deborah
It certainly dehumanizes people with vaccine...

It certainly dehumanizes people with vaccine safety concerns.
Forum: Vaccinations   04-23-2017, 05:27 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 313
Posted By Deborah
https://stream.org/doubt-scientific-consensus/ ...

https://stream.org/doubt-scientific-consensus/

Mostly about climate science, but several of the points raised fit well with vaccine battles, too.



A summary of the signs:
1) Bundled claims...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-22-2017, 05:51 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 118
Posted By Deborah
Could pharma make more money from disease than vaccines?

This is another thread to discuss popular pro-vaccine arguments and to debunk them.

In this case, the common claim is that pharmaceutical companies could make more money from treating, say,...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-22-2017, 09:58 AM
Replies: 110
Views: 4,323
Posted By Deborah
I think the original meaning had to do with...

I think the original meaning had to do with putting out a candle. There are actually objects called "candle snuffers" which are placed over the candle flame and deprive it of oxygen.

I think what...
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