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Forum: Vaccinations   04-19-2015, 03:04 PM
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Posted By serenbat
Let's also remember how the CDC "estimates" flu...

Let's also remember how the CDC "estimates" flu deaths! We have been over and over this in past threads if others need links there certainly are many.

It is not mandatory to do autopsies and death...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-19-2015, 02:59 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 758
Posted By serenbat
thekoz just to make it real clear to those...

thekoz

just to make it real clear to those who are reading - I'm not seeing REAL numbers like mamabear0314 sees per her post and quote

I don't count "estimates" from JUST 1, 882 in an online...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-19-2015, 02:40 PM
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Views: 758
Posted By serenbat
FYI- when someone quotes (and in this case the...

FYI- when someone quotes (and in this case the link was in the quote), it means that is what they are referring to

I thought I was quite clear as to what I was referring to - I certainly DID see...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-19-2015, 02:34 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 758
Posted By serenbat
mamabear0314 I going to take a...

mamabear0314



I going to take a "assume" here and think both of you read the link (posted by mambeear0314) correct?



To estimate influenza vaccination coverage among HCP during the...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-19-2015, 02:15 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 758
Posted By serenbat
I had seen her link. Apparently you did not...

I had seen her link.

Apparently you did not see the linkS
I posted & the conclusions I draw.
Forum: Vaccinations   04-19-2015, 11:15 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 758
Posted By serenbat
I don't see those number you see. ...

I don't see those number you see.

http://www.research.va.gov/news/features/flu_vaccination.cfm

In 2005, 45 percent of VHA's health care workers were vaccinated against seasonal influenza. The...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-19-2015, 06:22 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 758
Posted By serenbat
I can't link where I am but will later if no one...

I can't link where I am but will later if no one else does.

There is also a current thread on nurses declining. The numbers of declining are growing, especially among the medical community.
Forum: Vaccinations   04-19-2015, 02:47 AM
Replies: 26
Views: 758
Posted By serenbat
You ( and the PRO agenda) can keep spinning it...

You ( and the PRO agenda) can keep spinning it but the population isn't buying it- simple math or not.

It is a dud and more & more are refusing it. That simple to see.

The message is not...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 02:32 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,797
Posted By serenbat
I would add "certain" VPD under contagious- HPV...

I would add "certain" VPD under contagious- HPV from OB & Gynos usually isn't not presented as OMG- it's most only in kiddies that parents get the backlash!

Even other STD ( that ARE also...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 02:04 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,797
Posted By serenbat
Research? (Gasp!) - how dare one go against...

Research? (Gasp!) - how dare one go against experts .......that don't agree!
I would had those jumpy faces but on my phone!!!

At least the rest of society won't come after you & say one size...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-18-2015, 12:36 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 1,797
Posted By serenbat
When people make "other" medical decisions (and...

When people make "other" medical decisions (and or medical treatment for non-VPD) society does not demonize them for doing so like with vaccines.
Many refuse life-saving ( or so-called) with cancer...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   04-17-2015, 05:11 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 494
Posted By serenbat
Contrived??? You are generous! These...

Contrived??? You are generous!

These "cookie-cutters" (as I see them) are so predictable with only a few words changed no matter what!

and the talking points, you almost know what is coming...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   04-17-2015, 05:03 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 494
Posted By serenbat
I also found many of the things the rest of you...

I also found many of the things the rest of you mentioned, but what struck me was the 2nd, ah, she didn't need a second MMR--- she did what MOST PRO vaccers (on here) and what I hear IRL and in...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   04-15-2015, 02:07 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 2,217
Posted By serenbat
Please feel free to move this! -...

Please feel free to move this! - http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/upshot/why-californias-approach-to-tightening-vaccine-rules-could-backfire.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1

I have been super busy but...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-12-2015, 05:36 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 2,278
Posted By serenbat
You are missing expectance that vaccines are the...

You are missing expectance that vaccines are the answer, no matter what!

One can find it "concerning" but not enough to say they would not do it.

Join the crowd (obviously not everyone!) -...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 08:08 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 2,278
Posted By serenbat
Bottom line for me is it takes only two deaths...

Bottom line for me is it takes only two deaths for France to reconsider, how many need to die here?
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 04:50 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 2,278
Posted By serenbat
http://www.clinicaladvisor.com/intussusception-ris...

http://www.clinicaladvisor.com/intussusception-risk-still-up-with-rotavirus-vax/article/329379/ 1/2014

The risk of intussusception in infants and children after rotavirus vaccine administration...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 04:12 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 592
Posted By serenbat
During the "Disney" they allowed under 12 months...

During the "Disney" they allowed under 12 months but said that would not count and another would still be need at 12 - 15 months, again at 3 to 5 years of age......not sure, you can have another and...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 04:08 PM
Replies: 71
Views: 1,307
Posted By serenbat
usually when they find out teachers and support...

usually when they find out teachers and support staff don't need to vacced it changes a lot too!
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 04:05 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 2,278
Posted By serenbat
don't know if you saw this or not -...

don't know if you saw this or not - http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/rotavirus/vac-rotashield-historical.htm
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 07:19 AM
Replies: 71
Views: 1,307
Posted By serenbat
not without looking it up I mentioned Bono...

not without looking it up

I mentioned Bono and Booker to show the contrast and those were somewhat recent.

Sorry I don't have time - you should be able to find it. I'll check later and if I...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 07:06 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 2,278
Posted By serenbat
Here is some more into - this is older but still...

Here is some more into - this is older but still some might want to know this if they didn't know it.
http://www.fairwarning.org/2010/05/merck-vaccine-recalled-in-hong-kong-to-remain-in-use-in-u-s/...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 07:00 AM
Replies: 71
Views: 1,307
Posted By serenbat
It "works" state by state - really puts that...

It "works" state by state - really puts that "united" in US!

Basically each state makes their own rules and the Senators and Reps all end up in the same place D.C.

If someone steps down...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-10-2015, 06:02 AM
Replies: 71
Views: 1,307
Posted By serenbat
Sorry I don't have that much time to go into...

Sorry I don't have that much time to go into details (will later if no one else posts it) but basically we have states who's rules are not all United.
Some states a mid- term rep can be appointed...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-09-2015, 06:02 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 2,278
Posted By serenbat
Let's keep in mind there is NO recall as of now...

Let's keep in mind there is NO recall as of now for the US, so doses are not just dumped and not being used.

In the 1960 the measles vaccine that was used was pulled in the US and "leftover"...
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