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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:18 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
I'm not going to get started now (late here), but...

I'm not going to get started now (late here), but couldn't help clicking through to some citations of Fombonne et al. 2006 (the 8 year old paper Deborah wants to discuss).

One of them is this:...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:10 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Bumping since Deborah still seems keen to play...

Bumping since Deborah still seems keen to play this game (mentioned in several other threads recently).

We're about to start the academic year, so not exactly the quietest time for me, but I'll...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:06 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
That's not really how debate works….

That's not really how debate works….
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:44 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
And I eat local. And I worry about bib...

And I eat local.

And I worry about bib pharma. It's not all or nothing. :)
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:40 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
I'm so thankful to live today with modern...

I'm so thankful to live today with modern medicine available if/when I need it.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:34 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
The CDC did make a statement - even before Dr...

The CDC did make a statement - even before Dr Thomas. It's linked up thread I think....
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:25 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
It really worries me a lot that so many people...

It really worries me a lot that so many people mistrust vaccines. I guess we agree on that too.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-31-2014, 12:47 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Oh - and I'm sure we can find examples of bad...

Oh - and I'm sure we can find examples of bad science on the "provax" side - along with lots and lots and lots of good science.

I've also seen good science uncover bad stuff about vaccines -...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-31-2014, 12:43 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
There's a big gap between "not very good" and...

There's a big gap between "not very good" and "conspiracy to coverup the truth".

I've talked before about scientists language too. It's scientifically impossible to prove a negative - all that...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-30-2014, 02:26 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Just more proof that a lot of people can believe...

Just more proof that a lot of people can believe things which go against all available proof.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-30-2014, 01:37 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Cochrane also conclude (in the same article?)...

Cochrane also conclude (in the same article?) there's no evidence for a link between MMR and autism. Was that written in invisible ink to the non vaxers who claim otherwise?
Forum: Vaccinations   08-30-2014, 12:05 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Not at all. It's just another example showing...

Not at all. It's just another example showing that a lot of people can believe things to be true when all the evidence points otherwise.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-30-2014, 12:02 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
In my view it's a common misconception that...

In my view it's a common misconception that science is a set if facts. Science is a method by which we learn about the world. We find facts through science, but the facts themselves are not the...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-30-2014, 03:57 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Just for fun try an internet search on "1 in 4...

Just for fun try an internet search on "1 in 4 Americans believe" - eye opening.

I knew the statistic was familiar. From feb 2015: 1 in 4 Americans believe the Sun orbits the Earth. Only 400...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-30-2014, 03:52 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Somewhere way up thread I worried that the right...

Somewhere way up thread I worried that the right statistical significance may not have been used by Hooker since he tested multiple hypotheses with the same data (eventually you might "prove one" by...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-29-2014, 10:50 AM
Replies: 41
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Posted By prosciencemum
I thought that was ironic too! Hope all is ok now...

I thought that was ironic too! Hope all is ok now little one his through the vaccinations. Never a fun visit even for those of us who are convinced its a good idea so I can imagine the extra stress...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-26-2014, 08:33 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
I thought the split between vaccinating and...

I thought the split between vaccinating and vaccinating delayed/selective was a mistake - but if it's about support for vaccinating feel free to either (or cross post) in s&d and vaccinating on...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 06:57 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
I'm glad the CDC made a statement clarifying...

I'm glad the CDC made a statement clarifying their viewpoint.

Tea - thanks for looking at the study in more depth. I skimmed it and it looked fairly simplistic - I wondered why the sizes of the...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 09:25 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Hopefully now this means we'll hear something...

Hopefully now this means we'll hear something direct from the CDC or this Dr Thomas.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 09:05 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 642
Posted By prosciencemum
But there are non and anti vax views in the UK...

But there are non and anti vax views in the UK where there's no vaccine requirements for school.....

I do agree the US system makes it harder to vaccinate off schedule and seeds division, but I...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 05:29 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 642
Posted By prosciencemum
It's interesting you see it that way (no snark...

It's interesting you see it that way (no snark implied - I find it interesting!). I kind of assumed the voices for vaccines stories were a response to the hundreds of "my kid reacted to vaccines so I...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 05:22 PM
Replies: 416
Views: 13,290
Posted By prosciencemum
Been on holiday and I'm thinking this isn't a...

Been on holiday and I'm thinking this isn't a thread I can catch up on!

I did read the paper linked up thread. So it's a re-analysis if old data using a different statistical technique than was...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-19-2014, 07:52 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 411
Posted By prosciencemum
Learning about the immune system is a great idea....

Learning about the immune system is a great idea. We should find a book and make a thread to read together. I'm definitely up for learning more.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-18-2014, 06:46 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 411
Posted By prosciencemum
The main thing to remember is either way it'll...

The main thing to remember is either way it'll most likely be fine. Serious vaccine reactions are rare, but right now so are most of the diseases vaccines are designed to protect us from.

I...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-16-2014, 10:53 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 1,320
Posted By prosciencemum
I read though that more than half of people in...

I read though that more than half of people in the UK would be willing to pay more tax to prevent that. So there's hope!
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