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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:22 PM
Replies: 35
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Posted By kathymuggle
That really isn't the point, though. The point...

That really isn't the point, though. The point is: what is safer today- to be vaxxed or unvaxxed?



Parents today need to use todays figures from the country they live in while doing risk...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   Yesterday, 08:00 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 386
Posted By kathymuggle
I suspect it is just and age/gender thing. ...

I suspect it is just and age/gender thing. Autoimmune disorders are more common in women of child-bearinging. Teen girls. Of course, one should be able to compare teen girls with the HPV vaccine...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-28-2015, 12:52 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 492
Posted By kathymuggle
OK…but nobody has run you off. Forums have...

OK…but nobody has run you off. Forums have rules that make for respectful and peaceful posting, and your question is probably better suited to the debate forum, where you are welcome to post.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-27-2015, 08:01 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 173
Posted By kathymuggle
Do not chuck tomatos at me but I did not hate the...

Do not chuck tomatos at me but I did not hate the clip :hide

Gates said he was more angry/impatient over vaccines not getting out to Africa, rather than "anti-vaxxers" in say, Orange County. I...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-27-2015, 07:47 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 492
Posted By kathymuggle
Are you a non-vaxxer? This is a forum for...

Are you a non-vaxxer? This is a forum for non-vaxxers and is support only. There is a pro-vax forum, a selective delayed forum and a general forum where all are welcome to discuss and debate.
...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 12:00 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 430
Posted By kathymuggle
http://safeminds.org/pubs/aluminum-and-mercury-in-...

http://safeminds.org/pubs/aluminum-and-mercury-in-vaccines-through-2007-ayoub.pdf

http://safeminds.org/pubs/aluminum-and-mercury-in-vaccines-through-2007-ayoub.pdf
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 11:41 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 430
Posted By kathymuggle
Any link on the 2010? I have heard that...

Any link on the 2010? I have heard that vaccines (other than flu vaccines, trace amounts, vaccines in countires other than the USA, etc) had thim. removed around 2001 and were off the shelfs by...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 11:36 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 430
Posted By kathymuggle
I suppose I should verify elsewhere, but assuming...

I suppose I should verify elsewhere, but assuming this is correct….WOW.


"CDC’s Immunization Safety Office is a troubled agency. In recent years a series of studies by Federal Investigators and...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 11:35 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 430
Posted By kathymuggle
Wow. I am just starting to go over the article,...

Wow. I am just starting to go over the article, and there are some goodies in there.

Here is one:

"A senior CDC vaccine safety scientist, Dr. William Thompson, has invoked the protection of...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-27-2015, 11:31 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 430
Posted By kathymuggle
1. Thimerosal is still in most flu shot given...

1. Thimerosal is still in most flu shot given to pregnant women, babies, etc. If the dose required for harm in susceptible populations is very small, it could still be a factor.

2. Autism...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 04:07 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 155
Posted By kathymuggle
Very easy - 6 questions. Done. Good luck. ...

Very easy - 6 questions. Done. Good luck. Share results from MDC, ok?
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 03:20 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 133
Posted By kathymuggle
Since 1988 close to 4000 cases have been awarded....

Since 1988 close to 4000 cases have been awarded.

Just for kicks 4000/ 3 000 000 000 = 750 000 each.

I doubt those claims were for minor issues at that amount.


Thanks for sharing.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 03:04 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 806
Posted By kathymuggle
While well put by PSM, I think those that are...

While well put by PSM, I think those that are scientists and/or claim "science says" need to remember this is a parenting board. Trying to define the argument as only science based neglects that...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 12:14 PM
Replies: 74
Views: 749
Posted By kathymuggle
No. Please clarify the point you are trying to...

No. Please clarify the point you are trying to make.


I do not consider money (taxes, charity, etc) in the same playing field at all as health. Health is priceless...money is money.


ETA:...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 11:57 AM
Replies: 74
Views: 749
Posted By kathymuggle
If you think the benefit of vaccination for your...

If you think the benefit of vaccination for your child outweighs the negative - then it is ethical to vaccinate, IMO, and enjoy the side-benefit of knowing you are helping to prop up herd immunity...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-26-2015, 10:31 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 251
Posted By kathymuggle
Some of them are in denial. How can a rational,...

Some of them are in denial. How can a rational, compassionate person endorse or insist on (which is what much of the pro-vax movement is centered on) something that can seriously harm children? ...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-26-2015, 10:20 AM
Replies: 74
Views: 749
Posted By kathymuggle
Painting with large brush strokes. ...

Painting with large brush strokes.







I think you are building a false framework here and saying we have to "rely" on information from one from source or another. This is not true. ...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   02-26-2015, 07:08 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 251
Posted By kathymuggle
Tring to enact legislation so people are forced...

Tring to enact legislation so people are forced to do as you believe is inherently narcissistic.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2015, 07:10 PM
Replies: 74
Views: 749
Posted By kathymuggle
Even if you did not think the disease was...

Even if you did not think the disease was particularly dangerous or even uncomfortable? Why would you bother?
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2015, 07:04 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 806
Posted By kathymuggle
What important stuff would you like to get to? ...

What important stuff would you like to get to? (I assume you mean in a vaccine related way?)

I too very much enjoy your posts :)
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2015, 03:32 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 330
Posted By kathymuggle
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/vpd-mev/measles-roug...

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/vpd-mev/measles-rougeole/assets/images/fig1-eng.jpg

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/vpd-mev/measles-rougeole/professionals-professionnels-eng.php
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2015, 03:27 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 330
Posted By kathymuggle
In a recent (2011) outbreak in Europe the death...

In a recent (2011) outbreak in Europe the death rate was 9/26000 or 1/2700 ish. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6047a1.htm


The oft cited CDC statistic 1/1000 comes from reported...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2015, 12:21 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 806
Posted By kathymuggle
True. I was trying to keep the mood light with...

True. I was trying to keep the mood light with the chocie of the word bickering. I do think there is a low level of bickering on this forum, with occasional outbursts of nastiness and occasional...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2015, 11:38 AM
Replies: 65
Views: 806
Posted By kathymuggle
Welcome! Some of us have been arguing with...

Welcome!

Some of us have been arguing with each other for a looonnnngggg time……we might get a little bickery, disillusioned etc.

If you have specific questions, bring them. I will try to...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-25-2015, 11:31 AM
Replies: 268
Views: 2,956
Posted By kathymuggle
Nope. I am questioning aluminum because...

Nope. I am questioning aluminum because reasonably smart people at MIT and UBC are questioning aluminum. I am questioning the safe daily limits of aluminum in healthy term infants because I have...
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