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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:17 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Does it still have value for papers involving big...

Does it still have value for papers involving big money?

That seems to be the main area of failure, that articles about future blockbuster drugs get away with hiding significant problems.

Is...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 05:43 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 454
Posted By Deborah
Japonica wrote: Odd that the pro-vaccine...

Japonica wrote:

Odd that the pro-vaccine don't understand that people are paying attention to this stuff. When they blame whooping cough on the unvaxed in one article and then talk about strain...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 05:41 PM
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Views: 454
Posted By Deborah
That would be a BIG research project.

That would be a BIG research project.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:06 PM
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Views: 1,116
Posted By Deborah
Actually, considering that Gardasil 9 is being...

Actually, considering that Gardasil 9 is being released, it seems quite reasonable/likely that the left-over doses of Gardasil 4 will be sent off to Africa and Asia where they can boost the number of...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:13 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 454
Posted By Deborah
to complicate things a bit more, the vaccine only...

to complicate things a bit more, the vaccine only messes up long-term immunity if you get it before you get pertussis. Infant vaccination wasn't super in the early days, many children actually got...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:10 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 454
Posted By Deborah
The difficulty with pertussis is that it is very...

The difficulty with pertussis is that it is very tricky to diagnose. People can get all sorts of oddball symptoms that don't look like whooping cough, but are.

Unless doctors test every single...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 05:56 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 1,621
Posted By Deborah
I wish you would apply the same level of...

I wish you would apply the same level of skepticism to stories posted online about the unvaccinated spreading disease...

For example, consider whooping cough.

The hard fact is, medical...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 05:39 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 454
Posted By Deborah
Okay. See, in the US the main slant has...

Okay.

See, in the US the main slant has been that the ebil anti-vaxers made a big fuss about the dangers (of course there really weren't any dangers, ha, ha) of the whole cell vaccine and it was...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:33 PM
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Views: 1,621
Posted By Deborah
It is the responsibility of doctors to set up...

It is the responsibility of doctors to set up their offices and clinics so that they are not facilitating the spread of illness. Denying care to the unvaccinated is just about the least effective...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:08 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I'd love to find out the history of that Medicare...

I'd love to find out the history of that Medicare requirement. Since it isn't sound science, there must be some sort of back-room deal involved.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:06 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 176
Posted By Deborah
Both of us are members of the tin-foil hat...

Both of us are members of the tin-foil hat brigade. Science timed to come out just in time to help sell a new vaccine is coincidence...not manipulation.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:54 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 176
Posted By Deborah
I do find it irritating that finding this huge...

I do find it irritating that finding this huge problem occurred right after a new version of the vaccine was released. Look! We screwed up, but it is okay, the new vaccine fixes the problem. Of...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:50 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 1,621
Posted By Deborah
There is also no liability if a medical office is...

There is also no liability if a medical office is careless about storing vaccines and creates a cluster of hundreds of children who do not have proper immunity.

Nor is there liability for teens...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:49 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 1,621
Posted By Deborah
Sigh. Just don't forget the article about...

Sigh.

Just don't forget the article about pediatric office visits helping to spread 700,000 cases of influenza like illness every year.

I think smart people will start avoiding these offices....
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:43 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 454
Posted By Deborah
No, it is odd. Japan started using this...

No, it is odd.

Japan started using this vaccine many years before the rest of the world. I seemed to work to prevent outbreaks of pertussis.

Then other countries started using it and within a...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:38 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 176
Posted By Deborah
This was brought forward in another thread as an...

This was brought forward in another thread as an example of honest science. See, when a vaccine causes problems we find it and we admit it...and we recommend another vaccine!
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:29 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 1,116
Posted By Deborah
samaxtics, that is so mean of you to derail this...

samaxtics, that is so mean of you to derail this feel good about vaccine inventors generosity thread... <sarcasm>
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:26 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 2,904
Posted By Deborah
Just wanted to add that many, in fact almost all...

Just wanted to add that many, in fact almost all of the studies I've looked at which claim there is no connection between autism and vaccines are what could be called "press release studies". They...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:22 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 610
Posted By Deborah
Excellent point. That same pre-selected...

Excellent point.

That same pre-selected group is designed to be low reactors.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:58 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 2,904
Posted By Deborah
The Atkisson article also includes a very long...

The Atkisson article also includes a very long list of studies that do link autism with vaccines.

In regard to the early signs of autism not spotted by parents. These are in babies who are in...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:06 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 1,621
Posted By Deborah
some of the members who said those things seem to...

some of the members who said those things seem to have quit posting.

I do think there is an organized effort to push people who vaccinate into extreme positions.

This is what I've observed...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-25-2015, 06:43 PM
Replies: 108
Views: 2,184
Posted By Deborah
I'm going to recommend, once again, The Secret...

I'm going to recommend, once again, The Secret History of the War on Cancer by Devra Davis. To sum up her tale, it was becoming evident by the 1920s that environmental factors played a major role in...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-25-2015, 05:45 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 1,621
Posted By Deborah
The number of really bad ideas human beings have...

The number of really bad ideas human beings have come up with and promoted probably is equal to infinity :frown:

Being really, really smart doesn't help, either.

Aristotle was probably one of...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-25-2015, 05:19 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 1,621
Posted By Deborah
There were a lot of divisions in the suffrage...

There were a lot of divisions in the suffrage movement in the UK and not everyone was in favor of violence or public acting out.

Just as not all people who like vaccines are in favor of extreme...
Forum: Vaccinations   04-25-2015, 01:12 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 1,621
Posted By Deborah
I especially find the shunning campaigns...

I especially find the shunning campaigns frightful. And the organizations that are consciously encouraging parents to shun others based on their vaccine choices creepy.
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