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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:35 AM
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Posted By prosciencemum
Sure. Which is why personal stories count for...

Sure. Which is why personal stories count for nothing (or should) in the decision making process. Children can be hurt by vaccines. Children can be hurt by diseases which vaccines prevent. So we look...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-20-2014, 02:29 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 746
Posted By prosciencemum
Mankind survives - doesn't mean much to the...

Mankind survives - doesn't mean much to the individuals who die before they need to, or to the people they leave behind.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-20-2014, 12:10 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 746
Posted By prosciencemum
You can find reports that the diseases were...

You can find reports that the diseases were benign. You can also see the rates of serious complications and deaths.

Teacozy has put it this way before - if any vaccine had those levels of...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 11:19 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 642
Posted By prosciencemum
There's also the ongoing tracking of safety....

There's also the ongoing tracking of safety. There's VAERS, plus other more comprehensive surveys of parts of the population.

I'm confident that if any serious problems were there they'd be found...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 10:33 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 746
Posted By prosciencemum
Pers - thanks for that response.

Pers - thanks for that response.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 10:30 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 642
Posted By prosciencemum
There's no evidence doing them all at once is...

There's no evidence doing them all at once is unsafe. I prefer to do them quickly to maximise protection.

I understand they are not that big of a problem to the immune system of even tiny babies...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 10:27 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 440
Posted By prosciencemum
If you like. And I choose to take advantage of...

If you like. And I choose to take advantage of interventions which have been demonstrated to be very safe and to reduce the chances of potentially serious diseases.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 09:59 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 440
Posted By prosciencemum
Life is unavoidably unsafe. Sad but true.

Life is unavoidably unsafe. Sad but true.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-18-2014, 11:02 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 614
Posted By prosciencemum
I think there were early unsubstantiated ideas it...

I think there were early unsubstantiated ideas it might have been a terrorist act to contaminate the vaccines. But that has been found to be not true.

In reassured they're pursuing criminal...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-18-2014, 07:38 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,439
Posted By prosciencemum
Deborah - let's not make it personal. Why comment...

Deborah - let's not make it personal. Why comment on me? How is that relevant.

Can you provide and open access link to read the paper? I cannot access it - only the abstract. So I've seen all the...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-18-2014, 07:36 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,439
Posted By prosciencemum
I'm just suggesting that as all the authors are...

I'm just suggesting that as all the authors are from the region they couldn't have accidentally made a mistake. So they either knew what they were doing and did the right thing (I've not seen any...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-18-2014, 07:34 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 614
Posted By prosciencemum
So just to repeat it was not the measles vaccines...

So just to repeat it was not the measles vaccines which caused the deaths - but a mistake in administering vaccines which caused the wrong substance to be injected into the infants.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-18-2014, 07:33 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 614
Posted By prosciencemum
BBC article on the story:...

BBC article on the story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29251329

Suggests the vaccines were accidentally mixed up with muscle relaxants. All the deaths were children 6-18 months old....
Forum: Vaccinating on Schedule   09-18-2014, 03:22 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 210
Posted By prosciencemum
I personally find it scary there's more than 50...

I personally find it scary there's more than 50 schools in CA with PBE (so not even adding medical exemptions in) for more than 50% of the kids. Sounds like a ticking time bomb for VPDs to me. If my...
Forum: Vaccinating on Schedule   09-18-2014, 02:18 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 210
Posted By prosciencemum
PBE Rates in California

I've been seeing a lot of fairly mainstream news lately about some of the rich school districts in California having very high personal belief exemption rates. This article talks about that, and also...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-18-2014, 02:08 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,439
Posted By prosciencemum
OK so I spent some time this morning looking at...

OK so I spent some time this morning looking at this study. Googling the criticisms Deborah has made in fact point to a long (six year) history of anti-vaccination groups trying to discredit this...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-17-2014, 09:46 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 304
Posted By prosciencemum
Kathy - thanks for sharing that, it was really...

Kathy - thanks for sharing that, it was really interesting.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-11-2014, 11:29 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,202
Posted By prosciencemum
I'm less worried about the board membership and...

I'm less worried about the board membership and more about the court case he's in trying to prove a link between autism and vaccines. I do not think that makes for an objective scientist on this...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-11-2014, 11:26 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 332
Posted By prosciencemum
On a related note this is a thought provoking...

On a related note this is a thought provoking artificial article about the need for a rating scheme for media coverage of science:...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-10-2014, 10:39 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 332
Posted By prosciencemum
Thanks for sharing that - really useful. ...

Thanks for sharing that - really useful.

The only one I would object to is the "Sensational headlines". That happens after the research, is done by journalists and often misinterprets the actual...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-10-2014, 10:53 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,202
Posted By prosciencemum
Except - as tea has previously pointed out, if...

Except - as tea has previously pointed out, if Thompson bases his claim that important data was excluded on the new analysis.

And if you want general discussion of your question about bias - I do...
Forum: Vaccinating on Schedule   09-10-2014, 10:48 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 285
Posted By prosciencemum
The uk schedule includes a meningitus vaccine for...

The uk schedule includes a meningitus vaccine for infants. I forget right now which meningitus. I've always wondered why the us chooses not to recommend it.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-10-2014, 10:42 AM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,202
Posted By prosciencemum
That certainly appears to be true if you want to...

That certainly appears to be true if you want to post opinions about vaccinating on MDC.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-10-2014, 10:37 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,815
Posted By prosciencemum
There are reasons to omit data however which do...

There are reasons to omit data however which do not constitute fraud or a coverup and which reasonable scientists might disagree on. This episode to me looks more and more like that. I wish some of...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-09-2014, 11:08 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,046
Posted By prosciencemum
Oh and like kathymuggle - I agree the health of...

Oh and like kathymuggle - I agree the health of children (all children - not just those with low risk of VPDs and health aware parents) is the point here.
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