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Forum: Vaccinations   01-20-2015, 11:07 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Not only that, they'll magically deliver new...

Not only that, they'll magically deliver new clothing, clean bedding and a generous supply of high quality food for the entire village.

Vaccines are amazing.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-19-2015, 07:38 PM
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Posted By Deborah
This would have been a few years ago and I didn't...

This would have been a few years ago and I didn't save them, sorry. But there haven't been measles deaths in the US in quite awhile, so any story claiming current measles deaths in the US would have...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-19-2015, 06:19 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Measles is a good example of a situation where...

Measles is a good example of a situation where accurate information about vaccine risks might make all the difference. Because the data is not taken seriously, because there is no requirement...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-19-2015, 10:22 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Okay. So vaccines are safe enough given within...

Okay. So vaccines are safe enough given within the guidelines, but any time we go outside the guidelines danger signs should pop up.

Delayed vaccines? Dangerous.
Skipped vaccines? Dangerous....
Forum: Vaccinations   01-19-2015, 09:11 AM
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Posted By Deborah
The document being discussed is the one obtained...

The document being discussed is the one obtained during the Italian court case from GSK. The document is available, as are the numbers.

So, it doesn't look like the "vaccines prevent SIDS"...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-19-2015, 09:09 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Actually, Joseph Puliyel is a very well respected...

Actually, Joseph Puliyel is a very well respected pediatrician in India. He is quite concerned about the addition of the pentavalent vaccine to the schedule in Southeast Asia and has written about it...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-19-2015, 09:00 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Actually, sub-clinical measles apparently occurs...

Actually, sub-clinical measles apparently occurs in the unvaxed, too. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10023894

note also the problem of boosting for the vaccine which occurs with circulating...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-19-2015, 08:55 AM
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Posted By Deborah
vaccines are so safe they can even be given when...

vaccines are so safe they can even be given when a child is sick or injured or on antibiotics. Amazing stuff, vaccines.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-19-2015, 08:52 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Actually, it would be amazingly easy to get...

Actually, it would be amazingly easy to get additional doses of vaccines. Go to urgent care with an injured child and when the doctor says "is your child up to date?" just say no, we missed the last...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 06:50 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Indeed. There is a lot of data showing more...

Indeed. There is a lot of data showing more problems when more vaccines are administered at one time. But that is a topic for another thread!
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 06:01 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Good point. I think that there may be some...

Good point.

I think that there may be some attempt when discussing outbreaks to have it both ways.

When it comes to pertussis the argument is that the vaccine fails a lot, therefore everyone...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 05:11 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I remember that cluster. There was a vaccine...

I remember that cluster. There was a vaccine death in Vermont not long after, also with the bloody foam.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 04:46 PM
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Posted By Deborah
While I'm at it, this explanation of why...

While I'm at it, this explanation of why breastfeeding protects against SIDS seems to be on solider ground....
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 04:40 PM
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Posted By Deborah
This article goes over the AAP guidelines which...

This article goes over the AAP guidelines which are discussed in the Mothering thread I linked above. http://www.livescience.com/16587-sids-safe-sleep-aap-recommendations.html
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 04:38 PM
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Posted By Deborah
There was actually a thread on Mothering about...

There was actually a thread on Mothering about this a few years ago. About SIDS and vaccines I mean....
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 04:34 PM
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Posted By Deborah
From the CDC. They offer studies showing no...

From the CDC. They offer studies showing no connection between vax and SIDS but do NOT make the claim that vaxing reduces the likelihood of SIDS....
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 04:30 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Because the evidence isn't that strong. Note what...

Because the evidence isn't that strong. Note what I quoted above. Suggests. May.

The sort of evidence that will flip parents out if they get their kid vaxed and they die two or three days after...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 03:53 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Puliyel's comment went up on January 13th. No...

Puliyel's comment went up on January 13th. No response yet on PubMed Commons. Not a lot of responses anywhere else.

If the "vaccines reduce the rate of SIDS" is the best argument the vaccine...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-18-2015, 03:05 PM
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Posted By Deborah
The mumps outbreaks make a much better case for...

The mumps outbreaks make a much better case for vaccine failure than the measles outbreaks in my opinion.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   01-18-2015, 08:29 AM
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Views: 438
Posted By Deborah
I'm sorry too. I should have sent a PM on that!

I'm sorry too. I should have sent a PM on that!
Forum: Vaccinations   01-17-2015, 08:07 PM
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Posted By Deborah
All children? That seems odd.

All children? That seems odd.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-17-2015, 07:30 PM
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Views: 780
Posted By Deborah
This discussion of SIDS covers various risk...

This discussion of SIDS covers various risk factors. Delaying vaccinations isn't mentioned.
http://healthland.time.com/2012/03/26/back-to-sleep-why-are-2500-u-s-babies-still-dying-of-sids-each-year/...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-17-2015, 07:08 PM
Replies: 432
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Posted By Deborah
That is the latest pro-vaccine game which I've...

That is the latest pro-vaccine game which I've been seeing all over the place.

Claiming that the anti-vaccine movement is actually a pharmaceutical ploy. Usually the story is that dropping...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-17-2015, 07:13 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 780
Posted By Deborah
I don't think anyone collected the rate...

I don't think anyone collected the rate "pre-vaccination". However, the same increased death rate occurred following different doses of the vaccine. In addition, babies who received both Prevenar and...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-17-2015, 07:06 AM
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Views: 5,401
Posted By Deborah
Actually, the best discussion of this that I've...

Actually, the best discussion of this that I've seen is one on hospital spread infections, which infect 2 million a year and kill at least 23,000.

Very little news coverage. It isn't treated as...
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