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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:29 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/Pages/NR15-008.aspx ...

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/Pages/NR15-008.aspx

"The California measles patients reside in 11 local health jurisdictions (Alameda, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Mateo,...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:56 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Oh, pffttt. I do not cling to it or bring it up...

Oh, pffttt. I do not cling to it or bring it up with any sort of regularity - but when I do, it is because someone is being a complete sanctimommy. While I realise this is a measles discussion, I...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-27-2015, 08:10 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Where would you slide the Jenny-hate in? It is...

Where would you slide the Jenny-hate in? It is fine to dislike Jenny and the views she holds, but the equating of non-vax and "bimbo" is definitely sexism.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 04:11 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Hmmm….I felt you skated quite close to moral...

Hmmm….I felt you skated quite close to moral judgement on the discussion on free-loaders/free-riders. It is pretty much a euphanism for selfish. I also felt the comment on how non-vaxxers dismiss...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 02:10 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
If this is the case, you should report him.

If this is the case, you should report him.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 01:37 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I personally did not jump all over you (and I...

I personally did not jump all over you (and I know you were not addressing me)…but I thought about it. >:D

There is a trend at sites like V4V to post stories of people who were non-vax and then...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 09:40 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Kathy

Kathy
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 07:39 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Several days ago people were going back and forth...

Several days ago people were going back and forth about how many died in Philly of measles and where they died. The whole thing was a little dizzying :dizzy
Here is what I have come up with:
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Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2015, 06:06 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Nonsense. Whether he was hand picked or fell...

Nonsense. Whether he was hand picked or fell into it or something in between is fairly moot: he is a spokesperson and has been for a long time. He should own that and act professionally. I do not...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-25-2015, 04:05 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
MMR's possible link to autism is one of reason...

MMR's possible link to autism is one of reason people do not give MMR or delay MMR. As such I think it is quite relevent on a thread on measles. I do think it might be better or a new thread...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-25-2015, 06:35 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
becky…I do not think all conspiracy theorists are...

becky…I do not think all conspiracy theorists are deranged. At all. I don't think you are deranged.

I think the pro-vaxxers who scream "conspiracy theory" every time they can believe...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 09:18 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I know you asked this of becky, and maybe I...

I know you asked this of becky, and maybe I should just let this thread die…but I will briefly answer.

Vaccine decisions are made by those concerned with public health. I am primarily concerned...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 07:42 PM
Replies: 80
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Posted By kathymuggle
Are we arguing about conspiracy theories agian? ...

Are we arguing about conspiracy theories agian? It is wearying.

Here is the bottom line:

There are lots of non-vaxxers. Most are NOT conspiracy theorists - although some are. Big whoop. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 07:25 PM
Replies: 518
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Posted By kathymuggle
Well, then…. There is a vaccine for measles....

Well, then….

There is a vaccine for measles. It is relatively effective. There are people who can not be vaccinated or choose not to - it really does not matter which or why. Viruses do not...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 01:16 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
When I first read that post, I thought you were...

When I first read that post, I thought you were bang on- even though you undoubtably meant to be snarky.

Oh, and I do not think he is the King of Evil Doctors (was that the quote?) but I do not...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 01:10 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
kathy

kathy
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 12:52 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
he benefits with: 1. Money!!! 2. if...

he benefits with:

1. Money!!!

2. if not money for himself, then his cronies.

3. And, more important that money, it indulges his paternalist god complex. Not only is he so certain he is...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 12:41 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Right, I probably should not post, but have 15...

Right, I probably should not post, but have 15 minutes to spare and a coffee to drink….

I do not care if Offitt saw 5-7 people die of mealses in his hospital. The number, *to me*, is not worth...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2015, 06:55 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
OTOH, bacteria wants to surivie and if a large...

OTOH, bacteria wants to surivie and if a large percentage of a population is vaccinted, bacteria will change in order to survive…i.e serotype replacement. Pneumococcal vaccine is offered up as an...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-23-2015, 12:32 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
My defintion of health includes more than...

My defintion of health includes more than temporal, acute illness. I do not think a child with the measles is automatically unhealthy. They are just temporarily sick.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   01-23-2015, 11:05 AM
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Views: 165
Posted By kathymuggle
Curiousity: any reaction from the recent MMR...

Curiousity: any reaction from the recent MMR dose? I had MMR as a 16 year old, and I was so sick for about 12 hours afterward! High fever, hallucination. I also passed out after the shot. I had...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   01-23-2015, 11:02 AM
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Views: 165
Posted By kathymuggle
You're welcome. I found this from...

You're welcome.

I found this from Illinois. I would double check with info elsewhere, but if the incubation period typcially lasts for 10-14 days, there really might only have to be 4 days...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-23-2015, 10:54 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
You know what ss834? I just do not know what the...

You know what ss834? I just do not know what the risks are of MMR. I don't think anyone does - the mechanism for collecting data on vaccine safety and vaccine reactions is incredibly flawed.

I...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-23-2015, 10:17 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Bolding mine. I hate the way this is worded. ...

Bolding mine. I hate the way this is worded. It is deliberately misinforming. 1-2/1000 fatalities for reported cases . The fatality rate in both the USA and Canada in the prevaccine era...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-23-2015, 06:55 AM
Replies: 518
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Posted By kathymuggle
The measles component of the MMR is fairly...

The measles component of the MMR is fairly effective, IMHO. I am sure we could bicker about degrees, but who really cares? If you bring a vaxxed child to a closed area where someone has the...
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