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Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   11-30-2016, 08:32 AM
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Posted By hakunangovi
Found it: www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/

Found it: www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   11-29-2016, 07:58 PM
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Posted By hakunangovi
You are quite correct. I have had three people...

You are quite correct. I have had three people in the medical field tell me that those memories etched in the subconscious (implicit) memory can and do come out to haunt those afflicted later in...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   11-29-2016, 10:04 AM
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Posted By hakunangovi
There is mounting evidence that there are often...

There is mounting evidence that there are often emotional scars. Everything that a baby is exposed to, from in utero onwards, leaves a trace on their implicit memory. I would think that at 7 years...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   11-29-2016, 09:46 AM
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Posted By hakunangovi
I am coming to this discussion way too late,...

I am coming to this discussion way too late, however I do find this story absolutely horrifying.

First, I wonder how the father even knew that his son had a tight foreskin. Most of us don't see...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   10-11-2016, 09:01 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 556
Posted By hakunangovi
Perspective, you are absolutely correct. My...

Perspective, you are absolutely correct. My comments applied to conversations with adults, and mostly middle aged. I spent my entire grade school career in boys boarding schools. About 1/3 were...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   10-11-2016, 08:42 AM
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Posted By hakunangovi
Yes, that quote beggars belief !! It makes one...

Yes, that quote beggars belief !! It makes one want to yell: "WHAT".
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   10-08-2016, 07:11 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 556
Posted By hakunangovi
Very thoughtful posts from both of you! I...

Very thoughtful posts from both of you!

I actually wasn't aware that most men who are angry at being circumcised blame women. However, I suspect that it is, as Hannah suggested, due to mothers...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   10-05-2016, 08:57 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 471
Posted By hakunangovi
My sister lives in the U.K. and it horrifies her....

My sister lives in the U.K. and it horrifies her. My doctor is English and she has described the custom as "bizarre".

When one steps back and views RIC for what it is: Forced Cosmetic surgery...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   10-05-2016, 08:50 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 750
Posted By hakunangovi
Hugs to you. I feel the same way about DD and...

Hugs to you. I feel the same way about DD and SIL. I think it is the lack of common sense; of logic; not to mention the complete disregard for how the baby may grow up to feel about it that...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   09-29-2016, 09:55 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 750
Posted By hakunangovi
Situations like this really suck because we can't...

Situations like this really suck because we can't fathom what thought processes the parent in question used in order to come to the decision to mutilate their precious son. Obviously that is not...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   09-29-2016, 09:38 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 560
Posted By hakunangovi
Congratulations on leaving your son whole. I...

Congratulations on leaving your son whole.

I am a guy who was circumcised as a infant. It has always been an huge issue for me - well, since the age of six when I realized what had been done to...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   09-29-2016, 09:22 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 560
Posted By hakunangovi
This is one choice that a parent should NOT have....

This is one choice that a parent should NOT have. They are not the one's who have to live with the consequences. Circumcision does not cure anything. It does not fix anything. It does not enhance...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   09-27-2016, 12:05 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 714
Posted By hakunangovi
Book_Worm, I am impressed by your husband's...

Book_Worm, I am impressed by your husband's family for their logical approach. That is one thing that I wish my parents had exercised , rather than buying in to whatever BS they were fed by doctors...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   09-18-2016, 08:23 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 714
Posted By hakunangovi
Thank you. I am amazed at how strong this...

Thank you. I am amazed at how strong this culture of mutilating males is in America. I grew up on a different continent. Of my peers, in boys boarding school, there were both circumcised and...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   09-17-2016, 08:41 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 615
Posted By hakunangovi
You write a lot more eloquently than I am capable...

You write a lot more eloquently than I am capable of doing.

Your last line is the most poignant as it describes the place that the North American medical community, and by extension, society has...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   09-16-2016, 08:58 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 714
Posted By hakunangovi
Do intact men appreciate their status?

I have been on this board and others concerned with circumcision for a good many years. Every so often a post will mention an intact Dad who wishes to circumcise his son. This totally baffles me. ...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   09-04-2016, 10:32 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,058
Posted By hakunangovi
I have never heard of this being a problem. Most...

I have never heard of this being a problem. Most people simply explain that when Dad was a baby the doctors thought it was a good idea to cut off his foreskin, but now we know better and did not do...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   08-10-2016, 12:30 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 3,058
Posted By hakunangovi
All so true - and very sad !!

All so true - and very sad !!
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   08-08-2016, 11:26 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 3,058
Posted By hakunangovi
Yes, I know that was the mindset within the...

Yes, I know that was the mindset within the medical community, but what gets me is the disconnect between that mindset and what simple logic would suggest. For instance believing that babies don't...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   08-06-2016, 07:42 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 3,058
Posted By hakunangovi
I think that you are correct about the money, but...

I think that you are correct about the money, but I also believe that there is something else going on. I know an elderly doctor, long retired, and one of the nicest people one could meet. His own...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   08-01-2016, 07:32 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,058
Posted By hakunangovi
I feel your hurt. I don't know how old you are,...

I feel your hurt. I don't know how old you are, but parents who had their children before the internet came along were at a significant disadvantage compared to those today, who have instant access...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   07-31-2016, 08:27 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,058
Posted By hakunangovi
Yes, it's a difficult mindset to describe. When...

Yes, it's a difficult mindset to describe. When my wife was pregnant, the first thing I said to the doctor was "If this is a boy, there is no way that he's going to be circumcised". Then there are...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   07-30-2016, 12:22 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 2,058
Posted By hakunangovi
Not sure about this, as men with foreskin envy...

Not sure about this, as men with foreskin envy have enough common sense and consciousness about circumcision to realize that amputating a boys foreskin is a bad idea and, by extension, less likely to...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   07-30-2016, 07:28 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 624
Posted By hakunangovi
Good for you for refusing the catheter and...

Good for you for refusing the catheter and protecting your son. I have always viewed them as highly invasive, and as Jo pointed out they have been known to cause UTIs. You are way more informed...
Forum: The Case Against Circumcision   07-29-2016, 08:04 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 624
Posted By hakunangovi
I agree with everything Jo satiated above. I...

I agree with everything Jo satiated above. I would not mention it to the doctor. I don't know if you are familiar with the story of David Reimer, chronicled in a book called "The boy who was raised...
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