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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 04:33 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Darn! I'm beginning to feel paranoid....

Darn! I'm beginning to feel paranoid. Conspiracies everywhere.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 09:30 AM
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Posted By Deborah
The diversity of vaccine critics is a problem. ...

The diversity of vaccine critics is a problem.

A new group that is just emerging are the GMO critics who are discovering that vaccines are using recombinant technology.

The people who are...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:19 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Here is an example of a doctor defending...

Here is an example of a doctor defending tonsillectomies, despite the clear evidence that removal of the tonsils increases the risk of bulbar (iron lung) type polio...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 08:05 AM
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Posted By Deborah
I left a very big one off the list: Hormone...

I left a very big one off the list:
Hormone Replacement Therapy

here is a discussion of why HRT was prescribed and continued to be prescribed even though there was evidence available of the...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 07:52 AM
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Posted By Deborah
I think state licensing boards play a bigger...

I think state licensing boards play a bigger role.

One of the vaccine critical doctors who spoke out was threatened with the loss of his medical license--Arizona I believe.
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 06:02 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Bad medical practices--always due to conspiracies?

On another thread a discussion turned towards conspiracies as an explanation for medical practices that could be injurious for some--vaccines for example.

There is a lot of "bad" medicine around....
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 05:35 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Well, I hope that in the future it will be...

Well, I hope that in the future it will be possible to have a reasonable discussion.

And I agree, there are a lot of "non-vexers" on both sides of the debate here--that is people who discuss the...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 05:33 AM
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Posted By Deborah
some people would lose money in that...

some people would lose money in that situation...but there are always new and deadly infectious diseases in the pipeline...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:19 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Okay. And you don't know any of us. ...

Okay.

And you don't know any of us.

Why don't you take a few days, get to know the people and then we can have a discussion?

Where were the checks and balances during the 40 years of flu...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:05 PM
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Posted By Deborah
The difference between that set of beliefs and...

The difference between that set of beliefs and the thoughts of people who have concerns about vaccine safety is? All you are saying is that you trust authority. With a sort of sub-text: anyone who...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:49 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Yeah, I don't think the two virologists working...

Yeah, I don't think the two virologists working for Merck started out believing that Merck was conspiring to cover up mumps vaccine failure.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:44 PM
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Posted By Deborah
You are aware, I hope, that there are a number of...

You are aware, I hope, that there are a number of bugs that can cause meningitis and not all of them are covered by the vaccines which are currently being given.



I don't think that the people...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:20 PM
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Posted By Deborah
It only took 10 years? Amazing. But how...

It only took 10 years? Amazing.

But how many years before she started campaigning did the cord clamping begin? How many hundreds of thousands of babies were injured to some degree by this...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:17 PM
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Posted By Deborah
You didn't notice that you were personally...

You didn't notice that you were personally insulting all of the vaccine critics on the thread as being suckers for conspiracy theories which are "obviously" nonsense?

But that is okay. I'll be...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:10 PM
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Posted By Deborah
And going to the doctor is a really good way to...

And going to the doctor is a really good way to SPREAD mumps.
Why not just stay at home?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:09 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I agree, Daisy needs to learn the conversation...

I agree, Daisy needs to learn the conversation mode around here.

Let's look at something else that is similar.

Cord-clamping. There is solid evidence in the scientific literature that...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:32 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Very entertaining exchanges. Love it when...

Very entertaining exchanges.

Love it when someone presents a really feeble argument and has no idea how far out in left field they have gone...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:18 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I think I remember that. Whether a mandate flies...

I think I remember that. Whether a mandate flies has a lot to do with the degree of hassle involved.

With stuff like traffic lights, when they were first invented, I suspect they were a huge...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:00 AM
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Posted By Deborah
Good points. As I said, that was a preliminary...

Good points. As I said, that was a preliminary bit of searching. If someone has time to dig through pubmed I'm sure more detailed studies and analyses could be found.

Personally, I'm in favor of...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 10:36 AM
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Views: 922
Posted By Deborah
Exactly. It is much more of a cumulative effect. ...

Exactly. It is much more of a cumulative effect.

Years of bad influenza science = no consequences when found out except a broader market

Years of bad autism/vaccine science=no consequences...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 10:33 AM
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Posted By Deborah
When I sent looking for evidence that carseats...

When I sent looking for evidence that carseats save lives nothing easy turned up. Let me try pubmed, though.

Well, this definitely delivers better than Google!
I did a search on "automobile...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 10:13 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 538
Posted By Deborah
Yes, the real world is way too complicated. ...

Yes, the real world is way too complicated.

That is why "one size fits all" public health programs are so worrying.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:55 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 480
Posted By Deborah
How many parents of vaxed children are going to...

How many parents of vaxed children are going to insist on the test? How many know that the test has to be done within a fairly short period of time to give valid results?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:53 AM
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Views: 666
Posted By Deborah
Perfect example of why leaving the government out...

Perfect example of why leaving the government out of medical choices is a good idea.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:30 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 922
Posted By Deborah
Fairly simple series of steps. 1) The...

Fairly simple series of steps.

1) The original study was perfectly serious and done in good faith.

2) The press release about the study massively inflated and distorted the results. This seems...
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