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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 09:45 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
In this day and age in wealthy developed...

In this day and age in wealthy developed countries - harm from vaccines is probably more common overall than harm from VADs.

Of course, people can break it down by vaccine and corresponding...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 01:20 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 616
Posted By kathymuggle
Completely anecdotal - but I know a number of...

Completely anecdotal - but I know a number of vaccinated people who have had the mumps (including my husband). We know mumps is asymptomatic or undiagnosed in a decent chunk of the population, which...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 06:58 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 582
Posted By kathymuggle
Quebec gives MMR at 12 and 18 months. I think BC...

Quebec gives MMR at 12 and 18 months. I think BC does as well, not sure about the other provinces.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 06:09 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 616
Posted By kathymuggle
lol. Here is the boiled down pro-vax message...

lol.

Here is the boiled down pro-vax message I have received over the years:

1. Everything we vaccinate for is dangerous - if not to you, then to someone else.

2. Vaccines are super safe
...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 05:40 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 616
Posted By kathymuggle
And on the flip side, things like: chicken...

And on the flip side, things like:

chicken pox
measles
mumps
rubella
pertussis
flu

Are "herd immunity" issues.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-19-2014, 05:25 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 616
Posted By kathymuggle
Canada. Nope. I am ok with that.

Canada. Nope. I am ok with that.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-18-2014, 01:00 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 1,305
Posted By kathymuggle
That is the exact same reason I disliked the Nova...

That is the exact same reason I disliked the Nova piece. They pretty much opened with "diseases are coming back, it is the fault of the non-vaxxers, and the increasing numbers of non-vaxxers." This...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-18-2014, 06:19 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,429
Posted By kathymuggle
Thimerosal may have been discontionued in 1996,...

Thimerosal may have been discontionued in 1996, but it most certainly was not off the shelf. There was no recall in Canada, and it was used until it expired, which can take years (2-5, IIRC). As...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-17-2014, 10:49 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,526
Posted By kathymuggle
Yeah! My good deed for the day :)

Yeah! My good deed for the day :)
Forum: Vaccinations   09-17-2014, 10:48 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 291
Posted By kathymuggle
You're welcome. Much of the site it pretty...

You're welcome. Much of the site it pretty interesting, IMHO.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-17-2014, 10:47 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 291
Posted By kathymuggle
I got something different. I got that beliefs...

I got something different. I got that beliefs around climate change, evolution and vaccination were not related to scientific literacy (as is often claimed).

They ended with this:

"So while...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-17-2014, 05:34 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 291
Posted By kathymuggle
climate change, evolution, "anti-vax" house of cards.

http://www.culturalcognition.net/vaccines-global-warming-evolu/

Have fun.

"The notion that climate change skepticism, disbelief in evolution, and fear of vaccines are manifestations of a...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 09:47 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,526
Posted By kathymuggle
Sadly, I doubt not doubt this is true. As we...

Sadly, I doubt not doubt this is true.

As we speak, people are probably dying from tropical and neglectecd diseases most of us have barely, or never, heard of. They did not create the kind of...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 09:41 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 472
Posted By kathymuggle
I am struggling with this. For years I have...

I am struggling with this.

For years I have recommended the CDC. It is what I used when I was first studied vaccine issues. It truly helped me to grasp that the diseases we thought were so scary...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 06:09 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 472
Posted By kathymuggle
disillusioned

I am felling disillusioned. It has been coming on for some time, although the recent Whistleblower scandal and Nova piece have been the proverbial straws that broke the camels back.

I have long...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-16-2014, 05:41 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,526
Posted By kathymuggle
A Canadian paper said this: "There is every...

A Canadian paper said this:

"There is every reason to believe the rare respiratory virus that has hospitalized clusters of children in the U.S. is already in Canada, but there is no need for...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-14-2014, 05:23 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 1,305
Posted By kathymuggle
Because it is one-sided, and does not attempt to...

Because it is one-sided, and does not attempt to tackle any of the issues that surround vaccine safety, efficacy or politics in any in-depth way. It plays very much as "let's all vaccinate 101." I...
Forum: Vaccinations   09-14-2014, 07:21 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 1,305
Posted By kathymuggle
Nova - calling the shots.

I tried watching the NOVA episode on vaccines. Neither my heart nor my brain could tolerate the one-sided drivel….I did not make it all the way through.

Thankfully, Dachel did a review of the...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-13-2014, 04:43 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,526
Posted By kathymuggle
I am not sure if this will calm your DH or not -...

I am not sure if this will calm your DH or not - but almost every child who landed in hospital with EVD-68 has had asthma. I can get citations if you like.
Forum: Vaccinations   09-11-2014, 09:25 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 1,807
Posted By kathymuggle
And there are reasons to omit data that do...

And there are reasons to omit data that do constitute fraud.


Omitting data before you crunch numbers/come to a conclusions because some of the data should be screened out is one thing; coming to...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-11-2014, 08:31 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,526
Posted By kathymuggle
I got this from Natural News, and if this is the...

I got this from Natural News, and if this is the only evidence they have for EVD68 not happening in the unvaxxed, I am less than impressed.


"The fact that the mainstream media is right now not...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-11-2014, 08:14 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,526
Posted By kathymuggle
It would not surprise me if those vaccinated for...

It would not surprise me if those vaccinated for the flu were more likely to get EVD-68. We do suspect those vaccinated with the seasonal flu are more likely to get H1N1 (a series of Canadian...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-11-2014, 06:25 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,526
Posted By kathymuggle
In kansas city, 475 children have been...

In kansas city, 475 children have been hospitalised from EVD-68.

40% of children are unvaccinated for the flu. One would expect 190 hospitalised children (40% of 475) give or take a few, to be...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   09-11-2014, 06:15 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,526
Posted By kathymuggle
Anyone have any other links showing a vaccinted -...

Anyone have any other links showing a vaccinted - EVD68 connection? I would like to know where they got this information from. I have looked, and will look again - but at this point I have nada.
...
Forum: Unschooling   09-11-2014, 06:05 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 727
Posted By kathymuggle
Have fun with the extra cash :) I am...

Have fun with the extra cash :)

I am imagining she is simply ignorant - but I guess you will see.

I agree with your daughter, she needs to talk to Scott.
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