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Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   Yesterday, 08:20 PM
Replies: 3
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Posted By Deborah
How horrible! But can't the mother sue for...

How horrible!

But can't the mother sue for malpractice? Giving a vaccine that isn't recommended for that age child isn't routine.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   Yesterday, 08:07 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 73
Posted By Deborah
Well, I don't think slippery slope is a fallacy. ...

Well, I don't think slippery slope is a fallacy.

I recently read a very good book about the lead up to World War I, and there were a whole series of decisions, mostly "okay" but in combination...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   Yesterday, 07:59 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 145
Posted By Deborah
Well, until all the huge noise about influenza...

Well, until all the huge noise about influenza vaccines, I hardly thought about what was flu and what wasn't.

I did have a vague picture of the 1918 epidemic. My mother was born in October of...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   11-21-2014, 11:23 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 73
Posted By Deborah
I like the "sells books" point. As a librarian I...

I like the "sells books" point. As a librarian I find offering books with a variety of points of view on a wide range of topics one of the more interesting challenges of the job.

There are other...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   11-21-2014, 07:27 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 145
Posted By Deborah
Hey, those aren't bad odds! People buy lottery...

Hey, those aren't bad odds! People buy lottery tickets based on odds thousands of times worse than those!

So, basically, roughly 2 people out of 100 will get flu during the "season" and if you get...
Forum: Vaccinations   11-20-2014, 09:08 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 26
Posted By Deborah
I like to keep things in balance, so here is the...

I like to keep things in balance, so here is the industry defense of HFCS http://sweetsurprise.com/hfcs-faqs
Forum: Vaccinations   11-20-2014, 09:06 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 26
Posted By Deborah
I think the big danger is that the system will...

I think the big danger is that the system will still be totally deceptive but will be labeled as transparent.

Sort of like the way the Food and Drug Administration is supposed to assure us of the...
Forum: Vaccinations   11-20-2014, 09:03 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
It is a bit different from censorship. I...

It is a bit different from censorship.

I would call it re-writing reality. Similar to re-defining well known vaccine reactions to 1) hereditary diseases; 2) coincidences; and 3) parental memory...
Forum: Vaccinations   11-19-2014, 07:49 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 88
Posted By Deborah
Darn that cognitive dissonance!

Darn that cognitive dissonance!
Forum: Vaccinations   11-19-2014, 11:11 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 88
Posted By Deborah
That matches up well with other material I've...

That matches up well with other material I've read. Thanks!
Forum: Vaccinations   11-19-2014, 07:08 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
I think that just vaccinating isn't enough. To...

I think that just vaccinating isn't enough. To satisfy the vaccine enthusiasts it has to be every recommended vaccine on time, every time. Even delaying due to mild illness is considered deviant.
Forum: Vaccinations   11-18-2014, 06:11 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 85
Posted By Deborah
Well, we've all got to understand that when it...

Well, we've all got to understand that when it comes to vaccines there are no legitimate concerns. End of discussion.
Forum: Vaccinations   11-18-2014, 06:10 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
Teacozy, thanks so much for contributing a...

Teacozy, thanks so much for contributing a perfect example of the "no deviance" approach to defining who is an anti-vaxer.

The fact that a doctor who regularly administers vaccines can be...
Forum: Vaccinations   11-18-2014, 06:08 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
Kathymuggle wrote: Good points. We have to...

Kathymuggle wrote:

Good points. We have to be careful to separate out the vaccine pushers like Offit and some of the online ranters, from the actual players behind the scenes. There are a lot of...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   11-18-2014, 09:40 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 66
Posted By Deborah
I've written a few critical articles myself. It...

I've written a few critical articles myself. It is an immensely time-consuming activity, researching, writing, setting up the links. I'm surprised there are even a few good ones.
Forum: Vaccinations   11-18-2014, 09:02 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 85
Posted By Deborah
Excellent article, very well laid out and I...

Excellent article, very well laid out and I especially like the critique of the small facebook groups that spearheaded the attack on State Farm.
Forum: Vaccinations   11-18-2014, 08:45 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
kathymuggle the Bob Sears link needs to include...

kathymuggle the Bob Sears link needs to include the second parenthesis. At the moment it goes to an error page in Wikipedia. The error page does have a link to the right one, so it is no biggie.
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Forum: Vaccinations   11-18-2014, 08:42 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
The op-ed is a wonderful example. He definitely...

The op-ed is a wonderful example. He definitely describes anyone who deviates from total faith in all vaccines all the time as anti-vaccine. Thanks!
Forum: Vaccinations   11-18-2014, 07:47 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
Oh, yeah, I forgot the "mandatory doctor visit"...

Oh, yeah, I forgot the "mandatory doctor visit" laws. That is to keep parents from avoiding doctors altogether as a way to avoid the endless nagging to get every vaccine at every visit.
Forum: Vaccinations   11-18-2014, 07:46 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
After reading through a stack of these I've got...

After reading through a stack of these I've got some impressions:

1) The large number of parents who are concerned, questioning, delaying a bit and then selecting are seen as a major threat the...
Forum: Vaccinations   11-17-2014, 09:35 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
This one goes a long way towards labeling parents...

This one goes a long way towards labeling parents who refuse, select or delay as, at best deluded and at worst horribly irresponsible....
Forum: Vaccinations   11-17-2014, 09:31 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
This one ends with a pretty clear call to action...

This one ends with a pretty clear call to action against parents who do not fully vaccinate their children. http://www.immunizationinfo.org/issues/vaccine-safety/concerns-about-vaccine-safety
Forum: Vaccinations   11-17-2014, 11:10 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 293
Posted By Deborah
Selective? Delayed? Called anti-vaccine?

This is a thread to share examples of people being attacked as anti-vaccine for doing selective or delayed vaccinations for their children.

I don't want examples from comment threads, only from...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   11-17-2014, 10:49 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 74
Posted By Deborah
What makes this particularly absurd is that the...

What makes this particularly absurd is that the whole hysteria started with MUMPS outbreaks on college campuses.

How they go from that to daycare is a good question.
Forum: Vaccinations   11-17-2014, 10:34 AM
Replies: 1
Views: 28
Posted By Deborah
But where is the part about the dose making the...

But where is the part about the dose making the poison and aluminum being proven safe at the levels in vaccines?

Someone obviously goofed.
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