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Forum: Vaccinations   07-10-2014, 09:54 AM
Replies: 32
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Posted By Deborah
I didn't say it hadn't been done. Just that I'm...

I didn't say it hadn't been done. Just that I'm looking for one.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-10-2014, 06:54 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 756
Posted By Deborah
To be fair, the CDC has a number of studies...

To be fair, the CDC has a number of studies listed that they say do show the vaccine protecting others.

What I'm wondering about is a study that actually looked to see if the virus was surviving...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-09-2014, 09:31 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 756
Posted By Deborah
Oh, and I forgot to mention the problem of...

Oh, and I forgot to mention the problem of vaccines still allowing carriage and transmission of the bacteria or virus. This is a big one with pertussis, but it may also occur with other vaccines.
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Forum: Vaccinations   07-09-2014, 09:29 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 756
Posted By Deborah
What I keep wondering is if vaccination makes a...

What I keep wondering is if vaccination makes a significant difference in protecting the immune-compromised due to the large number of illnesses that are not vaccine related AND the problem of...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-09-2014, 07:29 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 324
Posted By Deborah
Both, depending on the who sits in the chair....

Both, depending on the who sits in the chair. Offit has certainly worked hard at marketing vaccines and judging by some of what I've found at CHOP science distortion does occur under his watch. See...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   07-08-2014, 08:15 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 95
Posted By Deborah
Note that this is used as an opportunity to...

Note that this is used as an opportunity to market vaccines.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   07-08-2014, 05:26 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Well, thank goodness it did! But I find it...

Well, thank goodness it did!

But I find it amazing to look at the changes in my lifetime.

Ladies, women couldn't get credit cards in their own names...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-08-2014, 02:08 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,512
Posted By Deborah
To return, once again, to the original topic of...

To return, once again, to the original topic of this thread, does anyone think that CHOP has it right and that aluminum in some form or other is actually NECESSARY during pregnancy?
Forum: Vaccinations   07-08-2014, 02:06 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 324
Posted By Deborah
I think it is the high costs of: 1) hiring...

I think it is the high costs of:
1) hiring ghostwriters AND Key Opinion Leaders as front-writers
2) setting up enough studies for each vaccine and/or drug so they can toss the ones that don't give...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   07-08-2014, 02:01 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 239
Posted By Deborah
That is what passes for science nowadays.

That is what passes for science nowadays.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   07-08-2014, 02:00 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 336
Posted By Deborah
Just a reminder of how recently state laws...

Just a reminder of how recently state laws weighed very heavily on the individual.

When I was 10 or so, my family moved to Massachusetts for my father's employment. At that time my parents had 5...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-08-2014, 06:04 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 324
Posted By Deborah
Yes, Forbes is the most insanely pro-vaccine...

Yes, Forbes is the most insanely pro-vaccine source other than the pro-vaccine blogosphere that I've come across. Truly extreme.

I thought this one was so crazy as to be funny. At least a few of...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-07-2014, 07:33 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 135
Posted By Deborah
Remembering J. Anthony Morris

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/vaccine-specialist-j-anthony-morris-dies-at-95/2014/07/03/e786b9b8-0228-11e4-8572-4b1b969b6322_story.html

A brave man who spoke out against useless...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-07-2014, 06:25 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 247
Posted By Deborah
Excellent model if your main goal is to move a...

Excellent model if your main goal is to move a lot of product in a short period of time.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-07-2014, 08:29 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 704
Posted By Deborah
I closely monitor news around vaccinations and...

I closely monitor news around vaccinations and headlines are often far away from the study they are supposedly "about". We spent some time in library school struggling with "aboutness" which is...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 06:23 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,512
Posted By Deborah
I think I've worked it out Teacozy. It is...

I think I've worked it out Teacozy.

It is vaccines following smoking and drinking during pregnancy that causes all the problems. Back when there were fewer vaccines being used, women could smoke...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 06:16 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,512
Posted By Deborah
My mother neither smoked, nor drank during any of...

My mother neither smoked, nor drank during any of her 5 pregnancies.

None of us got vaccines, either.

I think we need some actual statistics on the percentage of women who were smoking during...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 06:13 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 245
Posted By Deborah
I won't bother to track them down, but there were...

I won't bother to track them down, but there were several articles defending pharma and vaccine prices.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 02:09 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,512
Posted By Deborah
Returning once again to the original statement...

Returning once again to the original statement from CHOP, if the evidence shows that aluminum is neurologically harmful, then why are they implying that is needed during pregnancy? This is an...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 12:58 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,512
Posted By Deborah
Very good point, beckybird. It only takes a...

Very good point, beckybird. It only takes a little aluminum to provoke an immune response. Is provoking an immune response during pregnancy a good idea?
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 12:56 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 919
Posted By Deborah
The children probably continued to go to school.

The children probably continued to go to school.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 12:21 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 247
Posted By Deborah
Thanks. All the studies so far look pretty feeble...

Thanks. All the studies so far look pretty feeble to me. And the recommendations came before the research. Great science.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 12:14 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,512
Posted By Deborah
Especially if the daily safe limit is unknown.

Especially if the daily safe limit is unknown.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 09:26 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,512
Posted By Deborah
Is CHOP's claim that aluminum exposure during...

Is CHOP's claim that aluminum exposure during pregnancy is not only okay but good, valid? Based on current science?
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 09:23 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 1,512
Posted By Deborah
This is the original quote with which I started...

This is the original quote with which I started the thread. Here is the link again. http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/vaccine-ingredients/aluminum.html

I'd like...
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