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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 04:46 PM
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Posted By serenbat
I agree! People are forced to move and personally...

I agree! People are forced to move and personally do so all the time as well. CA is a foundation (history) of just that.

It would be interesting to see a challenge based on an exemption from one...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 04:42 PM
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Posted By serenbat
CA doesn't have a great track record on many...

CA doesn't have a great track record on many levels.

Gay marriage? How well did that do,,, ah.......NOW it's marriage! Tons of money poured into the state to make that vote and poof - no longer...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:40 PM
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Posted By serenbat
Given the symptoms mimic so many other things and...

Given the symptoms mimic so many other things and we known full well lab conformation is not routinely done, how often and how prevalent is this "V"PD really around?

Most infections in highly...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:09 PM
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Posted By serenbat
treatment and proper diagnose were delayed for...

treatment and proper diagnose were delayed for this child

for those who have not seen this - http://ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications/Publications/diphtheria-spain-rapid-risk-assessment-june-2015.pdf...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 09:52 AM
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Posted By serenbat
AND don't base your decision on the vaccine...

AND don't base your decision on the vaccine preventing you from contracting, being asymptomatic or receiving a proper diagnose and or treatment!
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 09:34 AM
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Posted By serenbat
Yes, especially since you vaccinate and "assume"...

Yes, especially since you vaccinate and "assume" those are OK - like those who were vaccinated in CA with measles, and like this outbreak, also got what they were vaccinated against!
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 09:21 AM
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  Sspe
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Posted By serenbat
I'm assuming you read the WHO link I posted? ...

I'm assuming you read the WHO link I posted?

So why isn't the PRO community calling for titer testing prior to vaccination to actually know?


We aren't tittering here or on those children in...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 09:18 AM
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  Sspe
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Posted By serenbat
.....and I posted above the link from WHO that...

.....and I posted above the link from WHO that found SSPE in those who were vaccinated - they "guess" they had wild either prior or during vaccination.

We certainly will see in those kiddies...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 09:13 AM
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  Sspe
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Posted By serenbat
I think it's quite clear. Please don't be...

I think it's quite clear.


Please don't be spreading PRO vaccine un-truths!
Really it's isn't accurate so it should not be stated as you did!!


As to mom's having protection to pass on-...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:53 PM
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Views: 2,698
Posted By serenbat
https://www.mnnonline.org/news/lent-leads-clean-wa...

https://www.mnnonline.org/news/lent-leads-clean-water-worldwide/

According to the UN, 783 million people–11% of the world’s population–lack access to clean drinking water. Water-related diseases...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:32 PM
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Posted By serenbat
Actually the answer is NO - no it's not the first...

Actually the answer is NO - no it's not the first priority to have basic services.

Why not what fix what causes the MOST problems first???

Disease are not JUST VPD one!


Clean h2o is a...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 05:29 PM
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Posted By serenbat
I certainly DO NOT want to diminish from this...

I certainly DO NOT want to diminish from this powerful photo. I do want to say I recall it was all those (as was called - ANTI-vaccers) that were the ones upset over what happened in Mexico just a...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 04:57 PM
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  Sspe
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Posted By serenbat
Sspe

A lot of talk lately about Diphtheria since the case in Spain. As many know (surprisingly many did not know) that even with vaccination for the "D" one can still contact Diphtheria.

Again that...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-25-2015, 08:33 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 967
Posted By serenbat
Could be quite interesting, Supreme Court in...

Could be quite interesting, Supreme Court in another ACA ruling did not side with states rights.

ACA does allow for religious exemptions(certain circumstances) a challenge would be interesting as...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-24-2015, 07:36 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 967
Posted By serenbat
There are options. It's the legal system and...

There are options.

It's the legal system and it's designed to allow appeals and reversals and stays.
Given the District that hears appeals for CA, that can mean it "may" go to an automatic...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-23-2015, 06:16 PM
Replies: 0
Views: 183
Posted By serenbat
MORE money $$ to be made........

Who to invest in til 2020!

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/global---adult-vaccines-market--company-analysis-to-2020-300103464.html

The influenza vaccines are the most popular and...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-23-2015, 08:15 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 394
Posted By serenbat
Damn straight they should! It's buying influence...

Damn straight they should! It's buying influence plain & simple----and certainly not going to research!!

I see no PRO must be outraged over this!!!
Forum: Vaccinations   06-22-2015, 07:51 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,147
Posted By serenbat
but, but BUT, it's for the "good" of the herd!...

but, but BUT, it's for the "good" of the herd! :crying:
Forum: Vaccinations   06-22-2015, 07:50 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 1,147
Posted By serenbat
I say change all those "scary-sciencey" sounding...

I say change all those "scary-sciencey" sounding names to fruit flavored names and compare them to real fruit - it's al the SAME isn't it???? :laugh
Forum: Vaccinations   06-20-2015, 05:31 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 562
Posted By serenbat
This is from the UK and with a nice chart too...

This is from the UK and with a nice chart too (would love to the same chart for the US- but I won't hold my breath!)
...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-20-2015, 03:04 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 394
Posted By serenbat
It's very clear that money is just to "burn" not...

It's very clear that money is just to "burn" not to go to "needed research"- another joke!

As for the Bee publishing it, I feel it's extremely important and I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-19-2015, 05:14 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 394
Posted By serenbat
money, MONEY - MONEY! the ties that bind......

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article24913978.html

Oven the past few years I have heard (ON HERE) PRO vaccer lament on the costs of doing "studies" and how much...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-18-2015, 03:35 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 1,594
Posted By serenbat
hey, what is that code for "medical accident"...

hey, what is that code for "medical accident" that causes a death??? :grin:
Forum: Vaccinations   06-18-2015, 03:34 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 1,594
Posted By serenbat
Oh, sure, vaccines prevent things they are not...

Oh, sure, vaccines prevent things they are not even designed for!

http://www.mothering.com/forum/47-vaccinations/1395720-unvaccinated-kids-autism-spectrum-disorders-3.html (post #68...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-18-2015, 07:10 AM
Replies: 59
Views: 1,594
Posted By serenbat
YES that is what the OP had stated in a previous...

YES that is what the OP had stated in a previous thread- sorry just on my phone- I will find & link the tread later.
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