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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 01:57 PM
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Posted By teacozy
Guess you missed the wink face at the end? ...

Guess you missed the wink face at the end?

A big portion of my previous post was responding to the insinuation and dig that my grandmothers must have "run with a tough crowd" because they drank...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:52 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,194
Posted By teacozy
"Social drinking abounded in the 1950s'...." ...

"Social drinking abounded in the 1950s'...."

Exactly. That's what I've been saying. From this book about the 1950's :

"During the 1950's, the hard liquors- whisky, scotch, gin, vodka, rum...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 05:39 PM
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Posted By teacozy
It would have been fairly unusual for a woman to...

It would have been fairly unusual for a woman to abstain from alcohol for 9 months in those days if she didn't know she was supposed to.

My grandmothers both smoked and drank through all their...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-06-2014, 03:30 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 1,194
Posted By teacozy
@ samax The anecdote I was referring to was...

@ samax

The anecdote I was referring to was the one about my grandmother, not Betty Draper.

The claim seems to be made by many non vaxxers that children born in the 50s and 60s were all...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-05-2014, 07:48 PM
Replies: 51
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Posted By teacozy
I'll rephrase. Smoking one cigarette over the...

I'll rephrase. Smoking one cigarette over the course of 9 months is very very very unlikely to cause any problems.

A better analogy is smoking 1/1000th of a puff of one cigarette or 1/1000th of a...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-05-2014, 03:51 PM
Replies: 51
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Posted By teacozy
And I think it's important to not that one single...

And I think it's important to not that one single cigarette is not going to be harmful to fetus, nor is one glass of wine. Indeed, there's some evidence that even a single glass of wine a day is not...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-05-2014, 03:47 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
The point was that Down Sydrome has existed long...

The point was that Down Sydrome has existed long before vaccines, which a PP seemed to have disputed.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-05-2014, 01:51 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
Well this is relevant. Article just came out...

Well this is relevant. Article just came out yesterday:

"The oldest confirmed case of Down's syndrome has been found: the skeleton of a child who died 1500 years ago in early medieval France....
Forum: Vaccinations   07-02-2014, 09:07 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 341
Posted By teacozy
What conditions are NOT caused by vaccines?

The Down Syndrome line of discussion in another thread got me wondering: Which conditions (that are not 100% genetic) do you NOT believe are linked to vaccines? I saw this shockingly long list on an...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-02-2014, 08:51 AM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
New one for me too. I picked Down Syndrome...

New one for me too. I picked Down Syndrome specifically because I figured there was no way someone was going to try and link vaccines to the condition.

Apparently I was wrong...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-02-2014, 08:48 AM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
Deb, diphtheria incidence and death in England...

Deb, diphtheria incidence and death in England and Wales:

http://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/Diphtheria%20Graph.png
Forum: Vaccinations   07-02-2014, 08:40 AM
Replies: 79
Views: 4,575
Posted By teacozy
No, I just think you (and humans in general) are...

No, I just think you (and humans in general) are pretty bad at interpreting risk. Your child is more likely to be harmed driving to the park than from a vaccine.

Here is a list of the top 10...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2014, 12:57 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 673
Posted By teacozy
New systematic review assesses ALL the serious risks of US childhood vaccines

http://www.redwineandapplesauce.com/

She goes into the new study and is generally not too controversial or "snarky" when writing about vaccines.

What do you guys think?
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2014, 12:48 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 770
Posted By teacozy
Guess you missed the part of my post (that you...

Guess you missed the part of my post (that you quoted even) that clearly stated "usually" and "almost always". To clarify, that means "most of the time, but not 100% of the time".

I don't think...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2014, 12:43 PM
Replies: 79
Views: 4,575
Posted By teacozy
"Warrant concern" does not equal= severe harm or...

"Warrant concern" does not equal= severe harm or death from a vaccine error.

Reusing needles is a terrible mistake, and any and all steps should be implemented to ever keep that from happening,...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2014, 12:36 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
Don't have a lot of time to respond right now,...

Don't have a lot of time to respond right now, son has to go down for his nap and the World Cup is starting soon :smile: (Go USA!)

The 700,000 cases of diphtheria estimate did not come from the...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2014, 01:05 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
"The overall case-fatality rate for diphtheria is...

"The overall case-fatality rate for diphtheria is 5%–10%, with
higher death rates (up to 20%) among persons younger than
5 and older than 40 years of age. The case-fatality rate for
diphtheria...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2014, 01:01 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 256
Posted By teacozy
A different kind of discussion: Contagion

Has anyone seen the movie? I saw it fairly recently and really liked it.

Here's the trailer: (Hmm can we no longer embed videos?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sYSyuuLk5g


I was...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2014, 12:28 PM
Replies: 79
Views: 4,575
Posted By teacozy
Right, but the discussion seemed to have moved...

Right, but the discussion seemed to have moved onto vaccine manufacturing errors and FDA monitoring in the previous posts.

I'm still not seeing any examples of these human or manufacturing errors...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2014, 12:22 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
The bolded is a pretty simplistic statement. ...

The bolded is a pretty simplistic statement.

Down Syndrome rates have increased pretty dramatically, for instance. I don't think anyone here is going to argue with the fact that it is a genetic...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2014, 12:17 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
It's both. More cases of disease= more deaths...

It's both. More cases of disease= more deaths from those diseases.

We know modern death rates for virtually all of these diseases. We know what the incidence of these diseases were pre...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2014, 10:23 AM
Replies: 79
Views: 4,575
Posted By teacozy
Didn't have time to look at that link thoroughly,...

Didn't have time to look at that link thoroughly, but from what I saw it didn't look like it wasn't talking about errors with the vaccines themselves, but human errors in administering them. Getting...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-29-2014, 10:13 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 472
Posted By teacozy
The problem with looking at overall rates it that...

The problem with looking at overall rates it that vaccine exemptions tend to cluster in certain communities. If the exemptions were evenly spread throughout the US, the numbers wouldn't be a huge...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-28-2014, 11:02 AM
Replies: 57
Views: 2,141
Posted By teacozy
@Taximom If sanitation was the cause of the...

@Taximom

If sanitation was the cause of the incidence drop, we would have seen these diseases all disappearing at the same time. That's not what happened. Measles incidence dropped one year,...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-28-2014, 10:13 AM
Replies: 79
Views: 4,575
Posted By teacozy
And I disagree that it's not evidence of the...

And I disagree that it's not evidence of the system working. They find and report even minuscule errors and test every batch before they are used.

The fact that no one has been able to show me...
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