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Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   Yesterday, 02:47 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Only showing concern when something is legal...

Only showing concern when something is legal censorship (aka relates the the government) is problematic...it lets a lot of organizations/corporations off the hook for some very censorship-like...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   Yesterday, 12:56 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 554
Posted By kathymuggle
It seems like you might have posted in haste,...

It seems like you might have posted in haste, Tea.

That is far less concerning, however, than your acceptance of Google "blacklisting" sites for having information you disagree with.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-22-2017, 09:56 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
72-85% of health care practitioners get the flu...

72-85% of health care practitioners get the flu shot, but we do not know how many are compelled to by the workplace. The CDC also said this:

"Early season flu vaccination coverage was higher...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   02-22-2017, 09:41 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 125
Posted By kathymuggle
My children have been in public school in...

My children have been in public school in Ontario. My youngest currently is. Last semester she had to take a gender identity test as part of the curriculum, got to hear all about her privilege as...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-22-2017, 09:26 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
Approximately 50% of health care providers do not...

Approximately 50% of health care providers do not get the flu shot, when they have the choice...yet almost all health care providers recommend the flu shot.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-22-2017, 09:23 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
Care to address the fact the AMA wants to do away...

Care to address the fact the AMA wants to do away with non-medical exemptions for the masses, but takes a much softer line with its doctors?


"In the context of a highly transmissible disease...
Forum: Vaccination Policies and Legislation   02-22-2017, 12:10 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,683
Posted By kathymuggle
I reread the bolded and it sounds quite hardcore,...

I reread the bolded and it sounds quite hardcore, so I am going to clarify my statement. Outside of any legal or professional obligations (paying taxes, mandatory report, etc, etc) I do not think...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-22-2017, 09:43 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 176
Posted By kathymuggle
How come? :smile: What is the defining line...

How come? :smile: What is the defining line between pro and sel/delayed for you?
Forum: Vaccinations   02-22-2017, 09:14 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 176
Posted By kathymuggle
pro-vaccine and flu shot

Would you consider someone pro-vaccine if they can get the flu shot but regularly choose not to?

yeah or nay?

I say nay. The flu shot is on the schedule - ergo if you are pro-vax you should...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 07:20 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
The point of this thread, per the OP, is adults...

The point of this thread, per the OP, is adults who refuse to accept vaccine for themselves, while wanting mandates for children. It is isn't pro-vaxxers who advocate vaccine mandates for children...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 07:15 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
Yes to the first paragraph. I do not buy...

Yes to the first paragraph.

I do not buy children are much more likely to spread germs. When it comes to things like Hep B, children are less likely to spread disease, as their overall rate of...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 12:48 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
You may (or may not have noticed) that I was...

You may (or may not have noticed) that I was being gentler on the general public than I was on pro-vax advocates or health care professionals.

I agree with you that it is likely the 68% or so of...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 12:17 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 1,723
Posted By kathymuggle
Ok, I am being really petty, but the title for...

Ok, I am being really petty, but the title for this article is:

"No, Vaccines Will NOT Cause Autism your Child! Here’s Why.."

um...*in your child*

Moving along - this snippet was...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 11:20 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
then what? And please do not come back with...

then what?

And please do not come back with "human nature."

I am not going to fillet-o-fish you as you do not speak for all pro-vaxxers, and are usually respectful...but there has been a lot of...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 11:04 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
I guess we just disagree. In general, I am not...

I guess we just disagree. In general, I am not prepared to listen to someone who advocates for mandatory A but does B. Obviously, they do not feel strongly about A if they cannot or will not (as...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 11:01 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
So - you think it is fine for a doctor to want...

So - you think it is fine for a doctor to want mandatory vaccines but not be utd himself?
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 10:53 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
(gently) That is a human failing, though. ...

(gently) That is a human failing, though.

Policy needs to rise above.

If I am going to sign my name to a policy or even advocate firmly for something, I need to be able to do what I am...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 10:41 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
I think we need to keep in mind the definition of...

I think we need to keep in mind the definition of pro-vax.

Pro-vaxxers advocate for compliance with the schedule. They may allow a very little wriggle room, but some not even that. If you pick...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 09:30 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
I agree that it is likely human nature, but the...

I agree that it is likely human nature, but the bottom line is they are not up to date, then they should not be advocating heavily that others are up to date. one beliefs should be in line with...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 09:28 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 149
Posted By kathymuggle
That was a great article. Well worth reading.

That was a great article. Well worth reading.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-21-2017, 09:09 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
I took a look at the definition of hypocrisy -...

I took a look at the definition of hypocrisy - here it is:

"a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess,...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-20-2017, 08:31 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
If you want everyone else to have higher taxes,...

If you want everyone else to have higher taxes, but will jump through hoops (and loopholes!) to keep yours low, that is hypocritical.

If you want mandates, but yourself are not UTD, that is...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-20-2017, 08:31 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
Another example: We know the mumps portion...

Another example:

We know the mumps portion of the vaccine is not doing the job it was set out to do. Thousands (?) of young adults are getting mumps yearly in the USA. Despite this, there is...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-20-2017, 08:24 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
I am just going to expand on this a bit. ...

I am just going to expand on this a bit.

Vaccine critics face accusations from pro-vaxxers that we are free-riding all the time. What is good for the goose is good for the gander: if you can...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-19-2017, 08:44 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 910
Posted By kathymuggle
This.

This.
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