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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 02:34 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Read the Forbes article. It looks like...

Read the Forbes article.

It looks like something vaccine critics have long suspected - that the vaccine does not automatically give the patient a milder case - has some evidence to it:
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Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:37 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 241
Posted By kathymuggle
I agree. Vaccines are perfectly safe and...

I agree. Vaccines are perfectly safe and hunky-dorry...what is the problem?

No shaming those who opt out of this highly imperefect, does-not-prevent transmission, vaccine, though. :shake

You...
Forum: Vaccinations   Today, 12:30 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 241
Posted By kathymuggle
I I was the one who made the claim, and I...

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I was the one who made the claim, and I stand by it.

I did not mention pro-vaccine scientists and doctors, however, I simply said "pro-vaxxers" Indeed, I was thinking of the pro-vaxxers on...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:46 PM
Replies: 52
Views: 797
Posted By kathymuggle
Intriguing. My non-vax friends believe Zika is...

Intriguing. My non-vax friends believe Zika is transmitted by mosquitoes found in warm areas.



I largely agree with you.

I do question the bolded, though. Who is ignoring the real...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-29-2016, 05:23 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,970
Posted By kathymuggle
I did not really think they were poking fun at me...

I did not really think they were poking fun at me (shrug). It is no suprise to me that that many vaccine critics do not put much stock in the CDC, and especially would not put much stock into a self...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-29-2016, 08:05 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,257
Posted By kathymuggle
I agree. I think she was simply making an...

I agree. I think she was simply making an observation about the nature of human beings.

I suspect that vaccine mandators are banking on this as well, but this is not an assertion she made or...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-29-2016, 07:15 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,257
Posted By kathymuggle
I think it largely, but not entirely, holds. ...

I think it largely, but not entirely, holds.

Example: It can be a real pain (virtually impossible in some areas) to find non GMO foods. That has not really stopped discussion of it.....even...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-28-2016, 02:49 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 744
Posted By kathymuggle
Well, if rubella is eliminated in the UK that is...

Well, if rubella is eliminated in the UK that is somewhat a good thing. Less rubella = less chance of getting it as a pregnant adult and passing it onto a fetus.

Still, as rubella is essentially...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-27-2016, 07:11 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 620
Posted By kathymuggle
If push really comes to shove, I support...

If push really comes to shove, I support individual people getting the drugs they need over societal cost.

Thankfully, some of the societal costs could be mitigated by proper disposal programs...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-27-2016, 12:02 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,970
Posted By kathymuggle
I made 3 points above (bolded). You really only...

I made 3 points above (bolded). You really only addressed one.

Thompson did not say protocol was changed, he said it was not followed.

Trying to put anything to rest without talking to...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-27-2016, 09:04 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 1,257
Posted By kathymuggle
The other ways this analogy falls down is: ...

The other ways this analogy falls down is:


Almost all schools receive tax payer money. Most daycares do not. So if a daycare providers chooses not to accept a child in cloth diapers, one may...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2016, 03:59 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,970
Posted By kathymuggle
The problem is this cannot be solved by looking...

The problem is this cannot be solved by looking at the documents.


Thompson alleged that significant data was omitted and study protocol not followed. The CDC has almost completely ignored these...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-26-2016, 06:23 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 620
Posted By kathymuggle
Among those in the know, maybe..... Perhaps...

Among those in the know, maybe.....

Perhaps UL can answer this, but does her mother know the above? Or is it just a knee jerk reaction coming from somewhere (pervasive mainstream medical...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-25-2016, 07:50 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 643
Posted By kathymuggle
Bumpity bump bump....hoping for more answers to...

Bumpity bump bump....hoping for more answers to post 10. TIA!
Forum: Vaccinations   01-25-2016, 12:13 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,108
Posted By kathymuggle
Sometimes people can't back up their claims. If...

Sometimes people can't back up their claims. If you want to dismiss everything everyone says that is un-verifiable, that is on you. It comes with it own risks, (rather negative world view) and if...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-25-2016, 11:47 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,108
Posted By kathymuggle
Why? People recount stories on the internet...

Why?

People recount stories on the internet all.the.time. You have, I have, everyone else on here has. Is everyone lying? That seems incredibly suspicious and cynical.

Or is it only when...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2016, 02:20 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 643
Posted By kathymuggle
I am simply being honest and real. Are you...

I am simply being honest and real.

Are you personally interested in working to achieve peace at this moment? Or do your feeling of frustration and anger run too deep?

I rarely throw the first...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2016, 11:58 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,108
Posted By kathymuggle
OMG. So don't believe the mother. It is one...

OMG. So don't believe the mother. It is one anecdote anyways.

Maybe the public record refers to the public hearing in Austin she said she attended (this is likely the case). Maybe it...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2016, 09:00 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 643
Posted By kathymuggle
Polarisation is dishonest. And yet...almost...

Polarisation is dishonest.

And yet...almost all controversies end up this polarised. I think there are more powerful forces than honestly - fear is one. Anger might be another.
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2016, 07:51 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 643
Posted By kathymuggle
My take: People promote polarisation because...

My take:

People promote polarisation because they have something to gain by it.

I suspect those who promote vaccinating on schedule and vaccine compliance actually have the most to gain by it...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-24-2016, 07:23 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,108
Posted By kathymuggle
There is Dr. Oz...who advocates vaccines, but may...

There is Dr. Oz...who advocates vaccines, but may not vaccinate his own kids (well, at least for flu).

This does not entirely bother me. One can hold one position, but compromise with your...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-23-2016, 05:06 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 435
Posted By kathymuggle
I sort of hope not. I kind of enjoy reading them...

I sort of hope not. I kind of enjoy reading them (as long as they do not substitute for discussion)

My knowledge around copyright issues is quite small though.

I think some memes may be okay...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-23-2016, 04:58 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,109
Posted By kathymuggle
I think it was published (assuming we are talking...

I think it was published (assuming we are talking about the same study).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22525386

I agree the numbers are small (although it still met statistical...
Forum: Vaccinations   01-23-2016, 02:49 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 435
Posted By kathymuggle
FYI on posting links

I saw this in on the site issues forum. I thought I would post it as an FYI for anyone interested.
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Forum: Vaccinations   01-22-2016, 11:12 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 345
Posted By kathymuggle
Oh, I think you can label some. A few cases...

Oh, I think you can label some. A few cases sneaking past does not negate this. I don't think pertussis even comes close to making the cut.
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