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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:39 PM
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Posted By Deborah
For example, if the vaccine is failing all over...

For example, if the vaccine is failing all over the place, all the more reason to get it during pregnancy to "protect" your baby.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:35 PM
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Posted By Deborah
I wonder. These are fairly devious and sneaky...

I wonder. These are fairly devious and sneaky people.

I remember when exemptions began to be mentioned in the news. Basically, you can't attack people for not vaxing and having kids in school...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:10 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Aw. The solution to the ethical problem is to...

Aw. The solution to the ethical problem is to treat mandates as non-coercive. If they say they aren't coercing people then what is the problem?

I think George Orwell had this particular system...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:01 PM
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Posted By Deborah
Thanks. I just thought it was very funny!:grin:

Thanks. I just thought it was very funny!:grin:
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:17 PM
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Posted By Deborah
The relevant post for thread bumping is #41...

The relevant post for thread bumping is #41 (http://www.mothering.com/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=41)
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:05 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 702
Posted By Deborah
I don't think this particular way of looking at...

I don't think this particular way of looking at the pertussis vax situation convinced us. How frustrating that we just aren't willing to go along with those little compromises that keep the vaccine...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:57 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 511
Posted By Deborah
One hopes that doctors don't really behave this...

One hopes that doctors don't really behave this way--but this seems to be an authoritative source: http://www.voicesforvaccines.org/the-consequences-of-refusing-vaccines/

This approach pretty much...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 09:34 PM
Replies: 103
Views: 2,290
Posted By Deborah
Thanks teacozy. Good to be careful. I'm very...

Thanks teacozy. Good to be careful.

I'm very doubtful about a connection with the vaccine, but the pesticide issue does seem plausible. Especially as the increase apparently began a few years ago...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 09:30 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 1,819
Posted By Deborah
Bumping up this thread. To my amusement I...

Bumping up this thread.

To my amusement I found out where I got the idea of bumping up threads and who "liked" the suggestion. The post is on the second page.

No good rolling on the floor...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 08:49 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,920
Posted By Deborah
I can actually understand some of the parents who...

I can actually understand some of the parents who just pretend that it isn't the vaccines. Why go there?
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 08:47 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,920
Posted By Deborah
Well, if that is where it ended, it wouldn't be...

Well, if that is where it ended, it wouldn't be quite as horrid, although that is horrid enough.

But here is how it unwinds.

First, you get your kid vaxed.

Then, if there is an obvious...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 07:41 PM
Replies: 103
Views: 2,290
Posted By Deborah
Interesting. Particularly shows that "background"...

Interesting. Particularly shows that "background" rates are not always known for particular conditions and areas. Apparently, the problem has been around for a while, but has recently become much...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 07:37 PM
Replies: 103
Views: 2,290
Posted By Deborah
Sorry, I obviously wasn't clear. I was mainly...

Sorry, I obviously wasn't clear. I was mainly going off of news stories. Within a very short time of the first report there were people working on a vaccine (apparently) and the Zika as the cause of...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 07:33 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,920
Posted By Deborah
could we sum up your opinion as: the system sucks?

could we sum up your opinion as: the system sucks?
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 07:30 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 511
Posted By Deborah
Yes, a friend of mine had severe headaches for...

Yes, a friend of mine had severe headaches for months before she got a referral to a specialist who did a proper exam and discovered that she had a neck injury from a car trunk hitting her head. Her...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 10:57 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,094
Posted By Deborah
Boosting up this thread to point out that neither...

Boosting up this thread to point out that neither of the vaccine supporters addressed the changed rules to define when something is a vaccine reaction.

These rules are already undermining trust...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 10:20 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,920
Posted By Deborah
Bumping up this excellent thread. I wanted to add...

Bumping up this excellent thread. I wanted to add this example of a vaccine story which is focused mainly on the failures of the medical doctor and his staff to respond appropriately to vaccine...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-07-2016, 09:36 AM
Replies: 103
Views: 2,290
Posted By Deborah
What is beginning to bother me is the rush to...

What is beginning to bother me is the rush to conclusions on all sides.

For those who like vaccines, even a very small slice of data seems to be enough to show that Zika is linked to microcephaly...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-06-2016, 10:13 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 704
Posted By Deborah
I'm almost done with the invasive species book. ...

I'm almost done with the invasive species book.

Just got done with the part on the idea of "wilderness" which is a big part of the American belief system. Basically, it is based on the idea that...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-06-2016, 09:04 AM
Replies: 81
Views: 1,942
Posted By Deborah
Seriously, Jenner was probably a racist. Just...

Seriously, Jenner was probably a racist. Just about every human being in England was a racist in the 18th century.

Therefore, vaccination is bunk?

When Jenner first proposed vaccination many...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 09:57 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 1,942
Posted By Deborah
This article discusses the original problem in...

This article discusses the original problem in some detail....
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 07:54 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 511
Posted By Deborah
Meningitis isn't exactly an infectious disease as...

Meningitis isn't exactly an infectious disease as such. Many of the "causes" are common bacteria or viruses carried by healthy human beings without any problems. Only if the bug (whichever variety it...
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 07:42 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 702
Posted By Deborah
Because the vaccine program is unrealistic to its...

Because the vaccine program is unrealistic to its core. :eek:
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 02:47 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 702
Posted By Deborah
Now that pertussis is being regularly diagnosed...

Now that pertussis is being regularly diagnosed in the vaccinated more accurate and extensive data may also be collected on severity.
Forum: Vaccinations   02-05-2016, 12:03 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 702
Posted By Deborah
If you search in PubMed you can find pertussis...

If you search in PubMed you can find pertussis outbreaks in highly vaxed populations that were using the "older" vaccine. It was a tad more effective than the current one, but not so effective as to...
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