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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:05 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Even if it is a sex-prudish thing...so what ? ...

Even if it is a sex-prudish thing...so what ? People are entitled to their values. It is not as if teens whose parents would prefer they do not get the HPV vaccine for "morality" reasons are...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 03:40 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Hep B. is largely, although not exclusively,...

Hep B. is largely, although not exclusively, sexually transmitted...and the hep. B vaccine intake is high.

It is a bit of a nail in the coffin to the idea that the HPV vaccine is rejected on...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 11:29 AM
Replies: 25
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Posted By kathymuggle
Am I the only one scratching my head a bit? ...

Am I the only one scratching my head a bit?

Vaccine critics and pro-vaxxers have all had things they said misrepresented.

In the real world, vaccine critics are a minority, so much of the...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-31-2015, 02:48 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 596
Posted By kathymuggle
That you would prevent or cure autism if you...

That you would prevent or cure autism if you could somehow means you hate all those with autism.

That if you use healthy children as your base demographic wrt stats, you therefore do not care...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-31-2015, 07:14 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Kathy ETA: despite all the above, I do hope...

Kathy

ETA: despite all the above, I do hope you stay. Your call. Variety is the spice of life. Just check your assumptions particularly around stereotypes and do not make sweeping...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-30-2015, 01:07 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 479
Posted By kathymuggle
Fear of litigation, controversy or feeling that...

Fear of litigation, controversy or feeling that the data is not in (with some lobby group interference), bureaucracy, making the bottom line a priority over people.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-30-2015, 08:17 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Back on track..... One of the things we...

Back on track.....


One of the things we haven't done on this thread is look at subgroups of who is a vaccine critic and why. Those groups either do not exist among car seat users or are...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-30-2015, 07:46 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
That seemed more like an interchange between two...

That seemed more like an interchange between two people, which is different from several posters going "whoa" over inflammatory comments.


The Daisy thing was not a case of someone disagreeing...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-30-2015, 06:35 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Jessica the pro-vaxxer has been all over this...

Jessica the pro-vaxxer has been all over this thread (for example) without being jumped on. Daisy got called out for saying we were all conspiracy theorists, fearful and victimy - and then...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-29-2015, 07:45 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Meningitis scares the crap out of me. I...

Meningitis scares the crap out of me.

I think you and all lurkers need to be really careful in dismissing possibility of meningitis, though, due to being vaccinated. There are strains of...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-29-2015, 07:32 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Is ridiculous a synonym for "obvious nonsense?" ...

Is ridiculous a synonym for "obvious nonsense?" I think it is :wink:
Forum: Vaccinations   05-29-2015, 07:23 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Daisy : I have a question for you: there are a...

Daisy : I have a question for you: there are a number of posters here who are selective vaxxers. Are they automatically conspiracy theorists, too? How does that reconcile with them accepting...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-29-2015, 06:59 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Well, thank you newbie for killing a perfectly...

Well, thank you newbie for killing a perfectly nice and thoughtful conversation with the ad hominem attack of "conspiracy theorist." as well as fearful and victim. If trolling is your style, I...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-29-2015, 09:52 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 567
Posted By kathymuggle
Let's go with what you said in post one - as the...

Let's go with what you said in post one - as the vaccination rate decreased, the disease rate of said disease would go up. With more disease, one can assume more deaths.

On a personal level, I...
Forum: Selective & Delayed Vaccination   05-29-2015, 05:34 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 277
Posted By kathymuggle
Op - where do you live? I think mosquito bites...

Op - where do you live? I think mosquito bites are worrisome in some place - typically where malaria and dengue fever are present, and nothing more than a major annoyance in most places in the USA...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-28-2015, 06:45 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
This goes both ways. Some may claim NVers...

This goes both ways.

Some may claim NVers under-estimate how awful it was in the past, but I would argue that some pro-vaxxers over -estimate how awful it was in the past. Not being alive in the...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-28-2015, 06:36 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Why do you think we trust the air in our homes...

Why do you think we trust the air in our homes but not vaccines?
Forum: Vaccinations   05-28-2015, 06:34 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Except most us do not know that 3/4 of car seats...

Except most us do not know that 3/4 of car seats are improperly installed.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-28-2015, 02:07 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 567
Posted By kathymuggle
1. 10 000 dead in a country of a million? ...

1. 10 000 dead in a country of a million? Assuming the disease is spread across all demographics, you betcha I would get the vaccine.

2. No, I would not get the vaccine if the area I lived...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-28-2015, 01:32 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
The second link points out that 3/4 car seats are...

The second link points out that 3/4 car seats are not installed properly, and that automobile crashes remain the number one cause of death in children under 13.

Despite the above, there are not...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-28-2015, 10:02 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 3,627
Posted By kathymuggle
Lots of good points upthread. I think...

Lots of good points upthread.


I think people have a visceral reaction to being told what they can and cannot put in their bodies...for good reason. Car seats do not enter bodies ;)
Forum: Vaccinations   05-28-2015, 09:36 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 232
Posted By kathymuggle
I would not go to the doctor over mumps. I...

I would not go to the doctor over mumps. I might report it to the health unit If I was feeling kind - which they would probably ignore anyways as it is not an official diagnosis, but assuming I did...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-27-2015, 10:45 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 462
Posted By kathymuggle
Well said.

Well said.
Forum: Vaccinations   05-27-2015, 10:32 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 789
Posted By kathymuggle
The woman in question lives in Ontario. The...

The woman in question lives in Ontario. The Ontario exemption form states:

"
The requirements of the
Immunization of School Pupils Act
conflict with my sincerely held convictions based on...
Forum: Vaccinations   05-27-2015, 05:50 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 462
Posted By kathymuggle
Interesting question. I am going to get...

Interesting question.

I am going to get bogged down a bit with the word "mandatory" when I said in the first post I did not want to go there.

Many things are mandatory in our culture that...
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