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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 10:01 PM
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Posted By Turquesa
Bribery-Based Medicine: Coming Soon to a California Doctor Near You

Seeing dollar signs in your doctor's eyes? If this bill passes, it will be because of the financial incentives offered to doctors for winning vaccine compliance.
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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:29 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 1,083
Posted By Turquesa
This is fair enough, but the thrust of my point...

This is fair enough, but the thrust of my point may be getting overlooked.

I'll try to explain it again. Let's see if citing this example helps. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:23 PM
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Posted By Turquesa
Bolding my own. What percentage of people around...

Bolding my own. What percentage of people around her were vaccinated?
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 07:08 PM
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Views: 1,083
Posted By Turquesa
So am I gathering correctly that she was...

So am I gathering correctly that she was immunocompromised, had a measles vaccine that didn't take, and then caught measles and subsequently pneumonia?

Pneumonia can be a complication of numerous...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:04 PM
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Views: 261
Posted By Turquesa
Evidence, please.

Evidence, please.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 06:03 PM
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Posted By Turquesa
Evidence, please. ETA: Please respond in...

Evidence, please.

ETA: Please respond in Teacozy's new thread.
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:15 PM
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Views: 1,083
Posted By Turquesa
This is truly horrible. My prayers and...

This is truly horrible. My prayers and condolences are with her family.

Please don't jump on anyone if they're wondering about her vaccination status, either. Vax choice supporters are feeling...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 02:12 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 2,436
Posted By Turquesa
I'm debating putting a flag on your post, as...

I'm debating putting a flag on your post, as we're not supposed to discuss the merits of mandatory vaccination. But I'll let it slide just to point out the fallacies of your argument.

Coercion is...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:50 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,820
Posted By Turquesa
samaxtics You know what they say about great...

samaxtics

You know what they say about great minds and crossposting :wink
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:49 AM
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Views: 2,820
Posted By Turquesa
Meryl Dorey nailed it. ...

Meryl Dorey nailed it. http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/06/the-fallacy-of-false-balance/
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 08:48 AM
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Views: 130
Posted By Turquesa
Prison Time for Fraudulant Vaccine Researcher

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/07/01/researcher-who-spiked-rabbit-blood-to-fake-hiv-vaccine-results-slapped-with-rare-prison-sentence/

I'm happy to see justice getting...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 10:07 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 2,436
Posted By Turquesa
Absolutely. Try as they might, the vaccine...

Absolutely. Try as they might, the vaccine coercionists will never successfully paint the vax choice advocates as monolithic. Not after what we've witnessed in California.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 01:55 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 190
Posted By Turquesa
It sort of depends on your health department. ...

It sort of depends on your health department. They always put out annual reports, giant PDF downloads that usually go into the most detail about disease cases. Otherwise, you may just have to send...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 01:46 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 2,436
Posted By Turquesa
What really stings about this irony is that some...

What really stings about this irony is that some of us are old enough to remember a time when HIV/AIDS was a new thing, and there was a lot of horrible hate rhetoric against gay men.

Now too...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 01:28 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 219
Posted By Turquesa
Let's Play "Name That Irony!"

https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/senatedemocrats/Documents/SMO%20PR_SB%20478%20Toxic%20Free%20Kids_07%2001%202015.pdf

Gee, here I thought that the dose makes the poison. And really. Why should...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 01:22 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,820
Posted By Turquesa
So the schedule IS based on convenience. ...

So the schedule IS based on convenience. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenteresting.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 01:13 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,820
Posted By Turquesa
I'm mostly badgering you to understand it. It's...

I'm mostly badgering you to understand it. It's a hypothetical question, not one requiring you to assess the research.

But if we actually delve into what is happening, I'd have to agree with...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 09:50 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 3,799
Posted By Turquesa
The point that the vaccine doesn't prevent...

The point that the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission is so critical that I'm ashamed to have overlooked it.

We still don't know who Patient Zero is. The region supposedly has a high influx...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 09:17 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,820
Posted By Turquesa
Please answer my question. Suppose, for the sake...

Please answer my question. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that what is being printed in Japan, Denmark, etc. is accurate and true. Is it censorship to withhold that information from consumers...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-01-2015, 07:51 AM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,820
Posted By Turquesa
Um, no. It isn't beside the point. It is the...

Um, no. It isn't beside the point. It is the point.

If news articles abroad about the HPV vaccine are based on well-researched information that U.S. media outlets are refusing to publicize, is...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2015, 10:18 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 587
Posted By Turquesa
And obviously, a lot of us vax choicers are in a...

And obviously, a lot of us vax choicers are in a pretty pissy mood today and trying not to take it out on others. Nothing personal.
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2015, 09:53 PM
Replies: 104
Views: 2,820
Posted By Turquesa
So what has been printed in Japan and Denmark is...

So what has been printed in Japan and Denmark is unreasonable? Please elaborate.
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2015, 09:52 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 587
Posted By Turquesa
Yes. Every movement has benefited from both the...

Yes. Every movement has benefited from both the Internet and social media. The vaccine coercionists are going haywire, as well.

You'll get used to Deborah's style--blunt and sometimes with a...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2015, 06:23 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 587
Posted By Turquesa
To answer the OP, to some extent, it is already...

To answer the OP, to some extent, it is already happening in some states. I've seen paperwork for state welfare programs in both Louisiana and Idaho. Both have philosophical exemptions for the...
Forum: Vaccinations   06-30-2015, 06:20 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 587
Posted By Turquesa
I appreciate hearing this. Having the...

I appreciate hearing this.

Having the choice to vaccinate is what made me confident in my decision to do so. The state of California has done more to destroy trust in vaccines than Jenny and...
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