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Forum: Vaccinations   07-21-2014, 10:10 PM
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Posted By prosciencemum
I'm curious now if there's any country in the...

I'm curious now if there's any country in the world which does not grant that right.

I get that it's complicated in the US and might involve loss of access to public school in some states - but...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-21-2014, 10:49 AM
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Views: 5,082
Posted By prosciencemum
There was a sign posted that everyone should wait...

There was a sign posted that everyone should wait following vaccination in case of rare adverse reactions. Perhaps I'm unusual in that I read it.....
Forum: Vaccinations   07-21-2014, 10:48 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 885
Posted By prosciencemum
No stickers exchanged hands. It was a (supportive...

No stickers exchanged hands. It was a (supportive in my view) joke/comment about how life can be difficult when you're a mum.

The certificate was for bravery I believe.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-20-2014, 11:18 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 885
Posted By prosciencemum
Didn't realise my sticker comment would cause so...

Didn't realise my sticker comment would cause so much controversy! I think in reality she couldn't find the stickers and was joking.

I agree that some positive associations are good. We go to the...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-20-2014, 11:13 PM
Replies: 89
Views: 5,082
Posted By prosciencemum
Waiting afterwards always standard in my...

Waiting afterwards always standard in my experience too.

When mine were babies I took the chance to breast feed and calm both them and myself down after the injection.

More recently it was a...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-20-2014, 12:19 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,363
Posted By prosciencemum
Mirzam and emmy256 - I'm really sorry for your...

Mirzam and emmy256 - I'm really sorry for your recent losses.

The sad thing is of course the NHS has a fixed budget so choices do have to be made about what treatments are offered.

I'm...
Forum: Vaccinating on Schedule   07-18-2014, 11:27 PM
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Views: 160
Posted By prosciencemum
Tea - thanks. Scary thought that it won't be long...

Tea - thanks. Scary thought that it won't be long until I think to look into this properly for eldest (scary bc of how quick they grow up!).
Forum: Vaccinations   07-18-2014, 11:23 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,363
Posted By prosciencemum
Conflict of interest over money and healthcare...

Conflict of interest over money and healthcare (as in the example above) is in my opinion one of the best reasons to move to state funded healthcare - let's separate a persons worth and the actual...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-17-2014, 10:52 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 2,021
Posted By prosciencemum
Not exactly no. I know post recommendation...

Not exactly no. I know post recommendation studies are ongoing and continue to monitor the effects of these recommendations for pregnant women.

I though up thread you or others were saying...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-17-2014, 10:49 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,113
Posted By prosciencemum
The version of the virus in the vaccine is...

The version of the virus in the vaccine is weakened and designed to induce an immune response without giving people flu. Any shedding of it likely spreads immunity not sickness.

However severely...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-17-2014, 02:30 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 885
Posted By prosciencemum
We do have treats after unpleasant experiences....

We do have treats after unpleasant experiences. It's not always food. Andi don't view it as a bribe, but a distraction to deflect from the negative memories into something positive.

This thread...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-17-2014, 02:19 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,113
Posted By prosciencemum
In my experience daycare will usually allow...

In my experience daycare will usually allow children to attend if they have symptoms of a mild cold. Once the child has a fever they will call for pick up.

My son couldn't attend for 2 weeks when...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-17-2014, 08:46 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,726
Posted By prosciencemum
The media are awful - scare stories and blame...

The media are awful - scare stories and blame everywhere. Don't make the mistake of thinking they reflect the opinion of most people in the community.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-17-2014, 08:44 AM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,113
Posted By prosciencemum
I'm fortunate to not know anyone who is...

I'm fortunate to not know anyone who is immunocompronised.

However if I did I would be more careful making sure we did get the flu vaccine in order to protect them. And I would probably avoid...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-17-2014, 08:38 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,726
Posted By prosciencemum
Bad stuff happens. Why do we have to blame...

Bad stuff happens. Why do we have to blame someone.

I feel I've done the best I can to protect myself and my family from vaccines preventable diseases. But bad stuff can happen.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-17-2014, 08:35 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 2,021
Posted By prosciencemum
I see no evidence for avoidance of long term...

I see no evidence for avoidance of long term monitoring.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2014, 11:35 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,726
Posted By prosciencemum
Scientists don't use anecdotes as evidence in any...

Scientists don't use anecdotes as evidence in any circumstance. They might use them to illustrate a point after the actual evidence supports a specific point of view. That's a very different thing.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2014, 11:33 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 2,021
Posted By prosciencemum
Turquesa - I get that you were asking for that....

Turquesa - I get that you were asking for that. My response was to ask you how you would go about running clinical trials on pregnant women.

As you are so find of pointing out questions you feel...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2014, 11:30 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,113
Posted By prosciencemum
That seems like an odd question - tea was clearly...

That seems like an odd question - tea was clearly stating that transmission to healthy individuals has never been documented - in response to a question asking if children who recently had flumist...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2014, 08:09 AM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,726
Posted By prosciencemum
The problem I have with it Is that vaccinations...

The problem I have with it Is that vaccinations work in the majority of cases. So most kids would be getting totally unnecessary blood work. A procedure which is very stressful for them.

Herd...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-16-2014, 07:37 AM
Replies: 90
Views: 2,021
Posted By prosciencemum
Why are you so confident such a study is not...

Why are you so confident such a study is not planned?

Ongoing safety checks of current vaccinations happen all the time.
Forum: Vaccinations   07-15-2014, 11:20 PM
Replies: 137
Views: 3,726
Posted By prosciencemum
serenitynow - great post. I often muse on...

serenitynow - great post.

I often muse on the low numbers of vaccinating parents on boards like this. It's not that we don't exist - even in the attachment/natural parenting crowd I suspect the...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-15-2014, 11:09 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 2,021
Posted By prosciencemum
Ok. So could you respond to my question about how...

Ok. So could you respond to my question about how you propose to run clinical trials on pregnant women that you would consider sufficient testing?
Forum: Vaccinations   07-15-2014, 01:11 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 2,021
Posted By prosciencemum
OK if you insist (which you seem to like doing)…....

OK if you insist (which you seem to like doing)….

I think this bit implies no-one cares to do testing (which I disagree with) and just assumes it's safe. Also raises the "toxin" distraction early...
Forum: Vaccinations   07-14-2014, 11:23 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 2,113
Posted By prosciencemum
Kathy - you want your kids to be exposed to...

Kathy - you want your kids to be exposed to illnesses so they don't get sick later?

There's a way to do that where they take a weakened version of the virus (that is still likely to induce an...
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