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Forum: Vaccinations   03-29-2015, 07:44 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
OT - but what a gorgeous picture of your...

OT - but what a gorgeous picture of your newborns! Congrats :love
Forum: Vaccinations   03-29-2015, 04:49 PM
Replies: 46
Views: 1,136
Posted By kathymuggle
Nothing :) I think individual vaccines in...

Nothing :)

I think individual vaccines in individual circumstances might be warranted, but all vaccines for virtually everyone on time? Nope.

One of the reasons I am unwilling to buy ("buy" -...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-26-2015, 01:01 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 1,585
Posted By kathymuggle
Your whole post is fair. That being said,...

Your whole post is fair.

That being said, there are rules on the MDC vaccine forums as to who can post where, and there is a history as to why these rules exist. I agree people should not be...
Forum: Vaccinations   03-26-2015, 11:16 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 292
Posted By kathymuggle
I read the Ianelli piece. It comes across to me...

I read the Ianelli piece. It comes across to me as high in pro-vax talking points and low on substance.


If Ianelli thinks we should use the Notifiable Diseases statistics instead of the CDC's...
Forum: Vaccinations   03-26-2015, 09:16 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 292
Posted By kathymuggle
I read the snope things prior to posting. I was...

I read the snope things prior to posting. I was not impressed. It use the strong word "False" against the claim that zero died of measles and 100 plus died of vaccine reaction to MMR.


Zero...
Forum: Vaccinations   03-26-2015, 06:25 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
measels death in last ten years meme....

Here is a meme and the article that goes with it:

http://vaccineimpact.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2015/01/deaths_in_the_us_during_the_past_10_years_due_to_measles.jpg




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Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-26-2015, 05:38 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 348
Posted By kathymuggle
Thanks!

Thanks!
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-26-2015, 05:36 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 1,585
Posted By kathymuggle
While I appreciate the support of freedom of...

While I appreciate the support of freedom of choice, this is not your forum.

MDC has rules about pro-vaxxers sticking to the pro-vax forum, nons to nons and sel/delayed to sel/delayed. Sel/del...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-25-2015, 06:52 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 348
Posted By kathymuggle
MDoc - do you mind sharing where you got that...

MDoc - do you mind sharing where you got that quote from? Thanks!
Forum: Vaccinations   03-24-2015, 02:52 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 273
Posted By kathymuggle
There have always been non-vaxxers, and the...

There have always been non-vaxxers, and the current numbers of non-vaxxers is quite low and relatively stable. I am not sure how you or the professor define social trend, but it might not fit the...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-23-2015, 07:18 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 590
Posted By kathymuggle
Probably not…but I will for any real newbies. ...

Probably not…but I will for any real newbies.

Threats to ban a child from school if they do not vaccinate are coercive.

"co·er·cion/kōˈərZHən,kōˈərSHən/
noun
the practice of persuading...
Forum: Vaccinations   03-23-2015, 05:48 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 526
Posted By kathymuggle
Different reaction? Do you define different...

Different reaction? Do you define different reaction as the vaccine not working - because that is what happened - vaccine failure ;) Vaccine failure is very common with pertussis.
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-23-2015, 11:02 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 590
Posted By kathymuggle
From the website: ...

From the website:

https://vaccinatecalifornia.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/vaxshirts.jpg?w=226&h=300

I love turning my child into a walking billboard for my cause! Extra bonus points given its...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-23-2015, 06:19 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 352
Posted By kathymuggle
From the article matte posted: “The AMA in...

From the article matte posted:

“The AMA in particular says, you know, it's ethically permissible to decline a potential patient when the treatment request that the patient is making really isn't...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-23-2015, 05:37 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 352
Posted By kathymuggle
To be clear: when I say a professional should be...

To be clear: when I say a professional should be able to refuse to do a procedure, I do not think they should refuse someone as a patient, on "morality" grounds.

There is a difference between...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-22-2015, 03:49 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 352
Posted By kathymuggle
Assuming a procedure does not create unreasonable...

Assuming a procedure does not create unreasonable hardship for the patient, I think a health care professional should be able to refuse to perform a procedure they are opposed to. I do think it is...
Forum: Vaccinations   03-20-2015, 04:03 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 532
Posted By kathymuggle
well child visit=700 000 avoidable illnesses

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140212144611.htm

"New research shows that well-child doctor appointments for annual exams and vaccinations are associated with an increased risk of...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-19-2015, 11:34 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,253
Posted By kathymuggle
I didn't either. I know AJ is right and we...

I didn't either. I know AJ is right and we should have...but you are not alone!


I tend to think the world has changed somewhat. Chronic health conditions were not an issue when I was growing...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-18-2015, 06:58 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,253
Posted By kathymuggle
2 things got me started - both occured about 17.5...

2 things got me started - both occured about 17.5 years ago..

1. I had vaccinated my son with MMR. When he was somewhere between 12 and 18 months, the recommendation for a second MMR came in. ...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-18-2015, 06:47 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,253
Posted By kathymuggle
Poll? I am just too fast on the uptake?

Poll? I am just too fast on the uptake?
Forum: Vaccinations   03-18-2015, 03:11 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 1,945
Posted By kathymuggle
I have now :) The data looked at was a...

I have now :)


The data looked at was a tad old.


It is interesting that measles was not related to NME strictness.


There are a couple of things to look at: does NME rate equate to...
Forum: Vaccinations   03-18-2015, 10:44 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 1,945
Posted By kathymuggle
Hypothesis: Diseases, such as pertusiss,...

Hypothesis:

Diseases, such as pertusiss, mumps, and measles are on the rise.

Vaccine apologists cannot blame low rates of vaccination as vaccine rates are not low. CDC says.

So - new...
Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating   03-18-2015, 10:17 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 546
Posted By kathymuggle
Do you live in a non-vax cluster?

This poll is for non-vax. Selective/delayeds may play…but if you lean more towards your kids being fully vaxxed than unvaxxed, please abstain.

Question: does the area you live in have a lot of...
Forum: Vaccinations   03-18-2015, 10:11 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 1,945
Posted By kathymuggle
Yeah, I find a lot of the talk about cluster a...

Yeah, I find a lot of the talk about cluster a tad weak.

Serenbat likes to point out that 0.3% of the population is intentionally untaxed. Of those who are intentionally unvaxxed - how many live...
Forum: Vaccinations   03-18-2015, 08:53 AM
Replies: 76
Views: 1,945
Posted By kathymuggle
Well, not to play for the pro-vax side, but there...

Well, not to play for the pro-vax side, but there have been outbreaks of measles in under-vaccinated areas of Ohio, Quebec and British Columbia in the past couple of years. I am not sure if the...
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