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Forum: Homebirth   04-04-2012, 06:37 AM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
"I am a vba3c mother myself and I was lucky to...

"I am a vba3c mother myself and I was lucky to deliver my baby here in Scandinavia , where nobody ever even questioned my decision to try a natural birth."
They just supported me , in what I...
Forum: Birth Professionals   09-09-2011, 06:10 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 587
Posted By Jane93
Also -- if we are going to discuss the nitty...

Also -- if we are going to discuss the nitty gritty on EFM, please note that the Cochrane review on fetal heart rate monitoring is very problematic.  It was not large enough (only 37,000 births) to...
Forum: Birth Professionals   09-09-2011, 05:52 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 587
Posted By Jane93
Well -- at least I'm not someone who claimed...

Well -- at least I'm not someone who claimed that a mortality rate of 1/400 wasn't something to at least give extra consideration to!
 
My understanding is that our two local hospitals (one being...
Forum: Birth Professionals   09-07-2011, 06:21 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 587
Posted By Jane93
Also, katelove, given the stories I have read...

Also, katelove, given the stories I have read where midwives have mistaken the heartbeat of the mother for that of the baby (in scenarios where the baby clearly died much earlier in the labor than...
Forum: Birth Professionals   09-07-2011, 06:18 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 587
Posted By Jane93
I agree -- the monitoring level is one of the...

I agree -- the monitoring level is one of the key differences between hospital and home birth.
 
In the hospital, the issue is that the fetal monitoring turns up a lot of false positives. ...
Forum: Birth Professionals   09-06-2011, 01:38 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 587
Posted By Jane93
She is correct -- 1 out of 400 is not low.  It...

She is correct -- 1 out of 400 is not low.  It is much higher than the average rate of perinatal mortality, especially given that midwives should be dealing with a low risk population.
 
Honestly,...
Forum: Birth Professionals   09-06-2011, 11:19 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 587
Posted By Jane93
I am not one of the educated ladies but ran...

I am not one of the educated ladies but ran across your post.  In light of the lack of other responses -- I do believe that meconium aspiration has been linked to fetal distress/hypoxic events...
Forum: Parenting Multiples   09-06-2011, 08:56 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,849
Posted By Jane93
I've been wondering about my girls too.  The...

I've been wondering about my girls too.  The perinatologist and hospital were 100% sure they are ID but I was noting many differences in looks as infants.  Now that they are 17 months, I think they...
Forum: Homebirth   09-05-2011, 01:29 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
Oh, I think it demonstrates a particular mindset...

Oh, I think it demonstrates a particular mindset that is a strong strain in the stories I hear of some homebirth midwives (more than just one!) --
 

creatively modified medical records or...
Forum: Homebirth   09-04-2011, 09:00 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
As a further note, as I understand it, a mother...

As a further note, as I understand it, a mother may legally have anyone she wishes in attendance during her birth in all 50 states.  What is illegal is the payment being made to the illegal midwife...
Forum: Homebirth   09-04-2011, 08:57 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
Valerie -- I don't believe my quote is...

Valerie -- I don't believe my quote is inaccurate or even out of context.  This is the advice of a particular midwife that is particularly effective in illustrating the ethical quandry of the...
Forum: Homebirth   08-22-2011, 05:53 AM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
So are all the pro-illegal midwives folk also...

So are all the pro-illegal midwives folk also against other basic licensing? 
 
For example, are you against driver's licenses?  Not being able to drive without a license is a significant...
Forum: Homebirth   08-22-2011, 05:38 AM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
Starrlamia --   CNMs in the U.S. do have...

Starrlamia --
 
CNMs in the U.S. do have both a nursing degree and a midwifery masters.  In Europe, I understand that there are no "lay" "DEM" or "CPM" equivalents that can legally pratice. ...
Forum: Birth Stories   08-22-2011, 05:29 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 2,630
Posted By Jane93
Isn't it supposed to be an empowered, educated...

Isn't it supposed to be an empowered, educated choice?  How is it educated if all you read about are orgasmic births, rainbows and unicorns?
Forum: Homebirth   08-21-2011, 06:36 AM
Replies: 106
Views: 4,508
Posted By Jane93
But still -- an OB resident at the closest...

But still -- an OB resident at the closest hospital to me will attend on the order of 500 births during their 4 year residency before being able to call themselves an OB.
 
A CPM?  40 before being...
Forum: Homebirth   08-20-2011, 05:08 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
This is the sort of thing I'm talking about when...

This is the sort of thing I'm talking about when I say the interests of the illegal midwife and patient are not aligned...see the following text from the book "From Calling to Courtroom"...
 
"For...
Forum: Homebirth   08-19-2011, 10:01 AM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
Part of the ethics issue is that the very base...

Part of the ethics issue is that the very base of the relationship, the provision of the service, is illegal.  So from the first moment of meeting, the practioner has a significant goal (not being...
Forum: Homebirth   08-19-2011, 07:59 AM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
I am curious as to how many who are willing to...

I am curious as to how many who are willing to support illegal midwives would be willing to see an illegal doctor?  
 
How about it -- a little surgery from a doctor trained in Hungary, or Peru or...
Forum: Homebirth   08-18-2011, 05:43 PM
Replies: 284
Views: 10,710
Posted By Jane93
For me, the fact that someone is willing to...

For me, the fact that someone is willing to practice medicine illegally is, to my mind, a testament to (a) a lack of ethics (I am a professional who requires licensure by the state, and I would...
Forum: Birth Professionals   08-17-2011, 10:22 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,767
Posted By Jane93
Rachael'sMommy --   You do realize that...

Rachael'sMommy --
 
You do realize that there is nothing requiring any unlicensed midwife you interview to tell you the truth about her morbidities/mortalities/experience/training/education or...
Forum: Birth Professionals   08-16-2011, 07:57 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 1,767
Posted By Jane93
You know -- actually ousting incompetent and...

You know -- actually ousting incompetent and dangerous practioners is good for a profession not bad for it. 
 
It is pretty clear that these midwives (who per other sources allegedly let this...
Forum: Parenting Multiples   08-14-2011, 04:35 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,428
Posted By Jane93
Thought of one more:   (11)  Is she able to...

Thought of one more:
 
(11)  Is she able to suture?  Seems like a number of the homebirth moms on the birth boards here have had post-partum issues with tears not being appropriately repaired.
 ...
Forum: Parenting Multiples   08-14-2011, 10:14 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 2,428
Posted By Jane93
Questions I would ask:   (1) List of degrees...

Questions I would ask:
 
(1) List of degrees and certifications.  For example, is the practitioner certified in NPR?  Not only is she currently certified, but how many times has she actually...
Forum: Books, Music, and Media   08-14-2011, 08:11 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,024
Posted By Jane93
If she wll watch older movies, there is a ton of...

If she wll watch older movies, there is a ton of light-hearted stuff (but not babyish) that would work:
 
Bringing Up Baby with Cary Grant and Katherine Hepburn is a fabulous light-hearted...
Forum: Homebirth   08-11-2011, 06:59 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 4,508
Posted By Jane93
Gena -- can you dispute that it is in the best...

Gena -- can you dispute that it is in the best economic interest of midwives to broaden the scope of their practice as much as possible?   The pool of women willing to even contemplate homebirth is...
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