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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 12:35 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
What anti-vax spin, tea? This is my...

What anti-vax spin, tea?

This is my assessment of the letter, I did not read it on some other site, and I do not identify as anti-vax.

I will repost the intro to the letter, bolding mine.
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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 10:40 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I was wondering why she had to vaccinate. IIRC,...

I was wondering why she had to vaccinate. IIRC, she is Canadian - and Canada is an easy place to be non-vax.

MM - can you delay?

Are you in BC?

I found this on the BC site
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Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 10:19 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Aw, Sorry mama. I was out of town. I was AFK...

Aw, Sorry mama. I was out of town. I was AFK for a few days, but do admit that when I came back I went straight to the whistle-blower debate. I kind of like debate, which I am not going to...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 10:03 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
This study did not look at the overall rate of...

This study did not look at the overall rate of autism in the community in different demogrpahics. It just looked at the rate of autism given when a person had MMR.

"The author embarked on the...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:41 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
The letter opens with this: "We’ve not met...

The letter opens with this:

"We’ve not met yet to discuss these matters, but I’m sure you’re aware of the Institute of Medicine Meeting regarding vaccines and autism that will take place on...
Forum: Vaccinations   Yesterday, 09:13 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I read the SBM article from start to finnish on...

I read the SBM article from start to finnish on Gorski's take on the CDC whistle-blower incident. I wanted to know what the "other side" had to say….and my analysis? Not much.

He spends a lot of...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 07:04 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Meh. It is not about Hooker's take on the...

Meh.

It is not about Hooker's take on the study. It is about a possible whistle-blower and whether or not the CDC acted appropriately after the original study. If a study shows a significant...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 07:00 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
As an aside, rates in Latinos also need to be...

As an aside, rates in Latinos also need to be looked at.

I was doing a bit of a google search for ASD rates among African Americans, and while I did not find anything shocking in absolute rates...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 06:46 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Why? Look, if you believe measles is deadly...

Why?

Look, if you believe measles is deadly and it is better to have autism than the measles (and some people absolutely do believe this) then, yeah, you *might* be OK with under-playing...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 06:25 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
FYI: The CDC says that about 14% of...

FYI:

The CDC says that about 14% of Americans are African American. Looking just at the USA, that is 7% of the population who is at higher risk for autism from early MMR assuming this is true.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-25-2014, 06:22 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
So? I think it is very possible the CDC...

So?

I think it is very possible the CDC would have (assuming it went down like this - I feel we are still in wait mode) covered up a issue in any demographic. White male. Latino females. ...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-23-2014, 08:18 AM
Replies: 19
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Posted By kathymuggle
Thanks for the clarification, and I agree. ...

Thanks for the clarification, and I agree.


Anecdote alert:


Once upon a time I felt a school one of my children was attending had bullying issues. I brought it to the teacher and...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-23-2014, 06:03 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 574
Posted By kathymuggle
I mostly agree. Let's look at a few...

I mostly agree.

Let's look at a few countries:

USA: bitter arguments, polarisation, #$%@ exemptions

Canada: no or few (rather easy to get) exemptions, not particularly bitter IMHO
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Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 07:53 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Absolutely not. I know you have not read the...

Absolutely not. I know you have not read the whole thread, so I will recap a post I made earlier.

"Of course not. The way to show whether or not MMR increases autism on a population level would...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 01:14 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Did the study look at autism rates in the...

Did the study look at autism rates in the unvaccinated? If they didn't it shows no such thing.

A higher autism rate among male African Americans who receive the vaccine on schedule compared to...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 12:54 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Of course not. The way to show whether or not...

Of course not. The way to show whether or not MMR increases autism on a population level would be to have several well constructed, unbiased studies where a large unvaxxed population is compared to...
Forum: The Childhood Years   08-22-2014, 11:21 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 414
Posted By kathymuggle
My mother used a harness on me as a child - and...

My mother used a harness on me as a child - and it was not a cute, non-obtrusive one, lol!

My mom rocks. Love her. No therapy over the harness. Take it easy on yourself.

Kathy
Forum: The Childhood Years   08-22-2014, 11:12 AM
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Views: 414
Posted By kathymuggle
Absolutely - either use a harness (they have cute...

Absolutely - either use a harness (they have cute ones that look like animal - backpacks: you hold the tail) or put him in a stroller. I would choose harness, but whatever works for you.


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Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 10:54 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I am good. The video worked the second time. ...

I am good. The video worked the second time.

Autism Media Channel remains down, though. (Their facebook page says it is technical difficulties. Interesting timing)
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 10:44 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I don't really know anything about Jon Rappoport....

I don't really know anything about Jon Rappoport.

That being said, I am concerned for Dr. Hooker and Bill Thompson, no matter how the dust settles.

Whistle-blowing is incredibly nasty...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 09:51 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
I got that as well from reading the skeptic blog....

I got that as well from reading the skeptic blog. Pretty insulting.
Forum: Vaccinations   08-22-2014, 09:16 AM
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Posted By kathymuggle
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/08/22/brian...

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/08/22/brian-hooker-proves-andrew-wakefield-wrong-about-vaccines-and-autism/

Well, a skeptic has weighed in.

His main bone of contention seems to be that...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-21-2014, 01:34 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Exactly. Citing something from 15-25 years ago...

Exactly. Citing something from 15-25 years ago as evidence of how journalists act now is silly.

As per Thorsen, he is not a household name because journalists did not choose to make him a...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-21-2014, 12:56 PM
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Posted By kathymuggle
Your first point, as well as your link, are from...

Your first point, as well as your link, are from the 90's. Things change.

My sense as to why they have not run with the story:

1. They don't want to. Does a story exist if no one reads about...
Forum: Vaccinations   08-21-2014, 07:27 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 574
Posted By kathymuggle
Completely agree. I think non-vaxxers...

Completely agree.


I think non-vaxxers have shied away from telling their stories for years, for fear of screeches of "anecdata!" I think we need to stop letting pro-vaxxers define the playing...
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